The HOSTILITY between SIGURD and IVAR (as an ECHO of RAGNAR and ROLLO) - Vikings (2013) Discussion

[–] larosat 7 years ago

What 2 brothers do???

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

The HOSTILITY between SIGURD and IVAR

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Perhaps we've also got another RAGNAR vs ROLLO situation again???

Only this time the JEALOUSY isn't just over LAGERTHA with all 4 of the BROTHERS having SEX with the SAME GIRL???

And this time the BEST WARRIOR is also IMPOTENT, whereas ROLLO'S PRIVATE PARTS still functioned for him???

Wonder what will happen if she GET'S PREGNANT???

Will one of the brothers MARRY her???

My bet is UBBE will be the one to do it even though he'll also know there's a chance that it's NOT HIS CHILD.

Because he's also the one who reminds the others that she's a HUMAN being.

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[–] GinaOKC1973 7 years ago

Ivar killed baby Siggy? I thought she drown because nobody was watching her? I guess I need to rewatch.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

She had a HEAD WOUND that was probably a result of IVAR hitting her with his AXE just like he did the other kid he killed who was beating him at the game they were playing.

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[–] liverpool26 7 years ago

I think if ivar did it they would have showed us by now. He was with his mum when the body was found plus back then he didn't crawl he was carried everywhere. I suppose its a possibility but I don't think they will say Ivar killed siggy.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

They don't need to SPELL it out or TELL US that's what happened.

It's IMPLIED that's what's happened by having SHOWN us the other SCENE WHERE he's JEALOUS of the other CHILD beating him at the GAME they were playing so he KILLS HIM.

This week reinforces the other scene when IVAR is also ready to KILL the YOUNG GIRL as a way to PROTECT his FRAGILE EGO again which fears she'll tell his brothers he's IMPOTENT.

So most likely what happens is IVAR was JEALOUS of the attention that LITTLE SIGGY needs (which also takes attention away from him), so he CHOPS her in the HEAD with the AXE the same way as he did the other CHILD who beats him at the game they're playing.

Then THE BROOD MARE probably also tries to COVER UP and HIDE what's happened by dumping her DEAD BODY by the RIVER in hopes that someone would assume she had drowned.

Otherwise WHY does she LAUGH about it when told about it???

It's because she already KNEW about it.

See the PATTERN HERE???

Just like the case was with FLOKI and with ROLLO ...

IVAR doesn't like not being the CENTER of ATTENTION.

This was made EVIDENT again to us in the SCENE where the other 2 BROTHERS were PLAYING with one another and he gets JEALOUS of it again.

That's why he shoots the ARROW between them.

He's just OUT SHOT his other brother WHO gives him THE PRAISE he wants for it.

Then the other 2 brothers IGNORE HIM and begin playing with each other.

So he STOPS them, which also pissed off SIGURD, who then THROWS the AXE at IVAR, who then throws another AXE back at SIGURD.

And the AXE he threw also CUTS the area around his EYE as a way to let SIGURD KNOW HE'S also better at AXE THROWING than SIGURD.

At DINNER IVAR also BRAGS saying that SIGURD is AFRAID of him.

So what we've got is a BIG JEALOUS EGOTIST, who also feels the NEED to BE THE CENTER of ATTENTION, because UNDER the EXTERIOR of the BIG EGO is also someone who feels INFERIOR due to his DISABILITY.

And SIGURD has obviously also become the TARGET of his INFERIORITY COMPLEX (

the same way as ROLLO previously made RAGNAR the TARGET of his INFERIORITY COMPLEX).

And as a way to compensate for his not having the kind of INTELLECT and CURIOSITY RAGNAR had, like the case is with IVAR, ROLLO also becomes the BETTER WARRIOR.

In other words, since ROLLO was JEALOUS of Ragnar's CURIOSITY and his SUPERIOR INTELLECTUAL ability, he becomes better than RAGNAR was PHYSICALLY.

And since IVAR is also JEALOUS of his brothers (and of their ABILITY to ATTACT FEMALES for other reasons),

he also becomes better than they are PHYSICALLY.

But like the case was with ROLLO, he'll most likely also make the SAME MISTAKE of assuming his PHYSICAL ABILITY is what matters most, when it's also COMPASSION and KINDNESS that mostly tends to impress other FEMALES.

And like the case was with ROLLO, he'll probably also continue to RESENT it each time that a FEMALE likes his brothers more than they do him.

And he'll probably also blame it on his PHYSICAL DISABILITY rather than blame it on HIMSELF and on his JEALOUSY of his BROTHERS and his other MENTAL ISSUES.

Or as LAGETHA puts it when she SUMS it up for ROLLO:

YOU'RE A GREAT WARRIOR but NOT a NICE MAN.

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[–] liverpool26 7 years ago

So most likely what happens is IVAR was JEALOUS of the attention that LITTLE SIGGY needs (which also takes attention away from him), so he CHOPS her in the HEAD with the AXE

No evidence for this theory. Siggy got no attention this was made very clear by other kids pointing out she smelled and was dirty. Ivar got all the attention he had zero reason to be jealous of siggy. His reaction of who cares shows he lacks sympathy but doesn't make him the killer, it was also an accurate reaction as literally nobody cares, aslaug certainly didn't and neither did Ragnar, Bjorn or the mother.

Otherwise WHY does she LAUGH about it when told about it???

Maybe she thought Ivars reaction was funny, maybe she thought it was funny little siggy died the same way as adult siggy, maybe because she's a bitch. If your theory was correct and she tried to cover up a murder then why would she laugh? She would pretend to be surprised or sad to divert suspicion.

Siggy was neglected, neglected kids die all the time. Its a miracle siggy lasted that long considering they lived in such a harsh environment. She may have been trying to clean herself or was just playing unsupervised and fell into the water. The vikings are not stupid they could tell the difference between someone killed with an axe and someone who drowned.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

The EVIDENCE was when SIGURD complains to his mother that Little SIGGY needs a bath.

One can assume IVAR may have RESENTED IT if she was given one.

And we also see SIGURD watching his mother still nursing IVAR when he looks like he's at least 5 or 6 years old.

As for NO ONE CARING about her death, we don't know that due to the TIME JUMP.

For all we know THE BROOD MARE lied and said she DROWNS, but with that WOUND to the head most likely what happens is IVAR put it there just like he put that WOUND on the EYE of SIGURD this week because he was JEALOUS that they ignored him and weren't also giving him PRAISE like the other brother did.

IVAR SPYING on the other brothers while they had sex and then demanding he also have sex with her as well was also SICK.

As soon as LAGERTHA finds out about THE BROOD MARE laughing we'll see how much she CARES about the death of her only GRAND CHILD.

She LAUGHS in front of her YOUNG SON because she knew with everyone away on the RAID there was nothing anyone could do at that time.

And she was also DRUNK.

But she won't be LAUGHING when someone finds out she laughed.

Now that her SONS are grown they can finally confront her and do something about it whereas doing something about it sooner would also have left the boys without a mother they still needed.

But they don't need her anymore now that they're grown.

They were also in PARIS for over a year. So by the time they got back again all that would be left was a SKELETON. But we also saw LAGERTH BURN the body of her dead daughter and we've also seen them burning bodies of the dead in PARIS. So there probably wouldn't even be a SKELETON left when they got back.

But that doesn't matter when we've also got SIGURD who HEARD his mother LAUGH when he told her he found the dead body.

And with the HOSTILITY we've seen between him and IVAR, also bet SIGURD's going to mention again what he found and what happened when he told his mother and IVAR about it.

And then there will most likely also be all kinds of HELL to pay for THE BROOD MARE who also VOLUNTEERS to look after the CHILD and then DID NOT.

And there's also NO EXCUSE for it when she also has SERVANTS who do EVERYTHING for her so that all she had to do was INSTRUCT one of them to give the child a bath.

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[–] liverpool26 7 years ago

"Manner of death drowned"

http://vikings.wikia.com/wiki/Siggy_(Bjornsdottir)

Your saying the obviously conclusion is ivar killed her but you seem to be the only person to come to this conclusion.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

http://vikings.wikia.com/wiki/Siggy_(Bjornsdottir)

Aslaug later shows her to Bjorn who refuses to take her, as she reminds him of Þorunn. Aslaug promises they will take care of her. She is later left to play with Sigurd. However he notices she is very dirty implying mistreatment and neglect. She fears to leave the Great Hall, but Sigurd insists, Siggy is found dead by Sigurd thrown in the mud in a stream bellow a bridge.

When he mentions it to Aslaug and Ivar. They both don't care. Aslaug obviously drunk because of Harbard and Ivar with cruelty. Siggy's death seems to have been ignored by her father Bjorn many years later.

On the CONTRARY,

all this link does is CONFIRM the theory that IVAR killed her.

NOTE the way it says she was:

THROWN into the MUD in a STREAM below a BRIDGE

This definitely doesn't CONFIRM your theory that she DROWNS.

A STREAM isn't deep enough for that.

What it indicates is she was KILLED and then THROWN DOWN into the MUD by someone who sees her as nothing more than a piece of GARBAGE.

And that would MOST LIKELY also be done by someone like IVAR, who was also ready to MURDER the other girl simply to PROTECT the REPUTATION of his PRIVATE PART that doesn't work.

So LITTLE SIGGY may also have said or did something that PISSED IVAR off.

And we've also seen how it takes VERY LITTLE to piss him off.

This week, for example, he gets JEALOUS of the FUN his other 2 brothers were having playing with each other and was ANGRY at them simply because they don't offer him the SAME PRAISE that his other brother gave him for shooting the arrow into the head of the DEAD DEAR.

So THANKS for the link which also confirms the theory that IVAR killed her and then THROWS her DEAD BODY down into THE MUD under the STEAM.

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[–] liverpool26 7 years ago

This definitely doesn't CONFIRM your theory that she DROWNS.

You are seriously delusional it clearly says METHOD OF DEATH: DROWNED not Ivar killed her because you said so.

A STREAM isn't deep enough for that.

Again this is not true your stating your opinions as if they're facts. Look it up a child could drowned in an inch of water NOW THAT IS FACT.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

SORRY but the SUMMARY in the link says NOTHING whatsoever about she's DROWNED:

http://vikings.wikia.com/wiki/Siggy_(Bjornsdottir)

Aslaug later shows her to Bjorn who refuses to take her, as she reminds him of Þorunn. Aslaug promises they will take care of her. She is later left to play with Sigurd. However he notices she is very dirty implying mistreatment and neglect. She fears to leave the Great Hall, but Sigurd insists, Siggy is found dead by Sigurd thrown in the mud in a stream bellow a bridge.

When he mentions it to Aslaug and Ivar. They both don't care. Aslaug obviously drunk because of Harbard and Ivar with cruelty. Siggy's death seems to have been ignored by her father Bjorn many years later.

WHAT it says is she was THROWN in the MUD.

Someone who has DROWNED is NOT THROWN into the MUD.

When a child is THROWN down into the MUD UNDER a BRIDGE ...

that also IMPLIES someone THREW HER DOWN into the MUD ...

because they've KILLED HER.

People who DROWN on their own without any help from someone else don't get THROWN into the MUD.

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A HELPLESS BABY may have DROWNED in an INCH of WATER.

But SIGGY wasn't a BABY anymore.

She was a TODDLER who could easily have pulled her face away from an INCH of WATER if it interfered with her ability to breath.

Whatever the case may be, this TOPIC also isn't about the already DEAD child.

It's about the HOSTILITY between IVAR and SIGURD.

And how the relationship between these 2 BROTHERS MIRRORS and REFLECTS the HOSTILITY we've seen ROLLO display for his brother RAGNAR.

In other words, IVAR also seems to be a MIRROR REFLECTION of the JEALOUS ROLLO who also RESENTED RAGNAR as much as IVAR seems to RESENT SIGURD.

And at some point, one also SUSPECTS RAGNAR is going to RECOGNIZE this and try to do something about it to keep HISTORY from REPEATING itself again.

Perhaps that's also the reason why we see the PREVIEW SCENE where IVAR is crawling on the FLOOR like a CRAB while we also see RAGNAR looking like he's ANGRY with him for some reason???

Maybe because he's also done something to SIGURD???

Like tried to KILL HIM for no good reason or maybe because he also THREATENS to tell his FATHER what he knows about the DEATH of LITTLE SIGGY???

your stating your opinions as if they're facts

Using the term MOST LIKELY as a way to QUALIFY what's been said isn't a STATEMENT of FACT.

Go BACK and read what's been said again.

The PROBLEM is YOUR FAULTY PERCEPTION of what was said.

What's more, others at this link also share the same OPINIONS of how SIGGY DIES:

Honestly I thought it was an accident but then looking back she was a little hesitant to go outside and play In the dirt so why would she be in a river covered in mud so maybe it was Habard out of revenge, I do find it convenient she died similar way the other Siggy died
April 16 by Breexox11

/wiki/Talk:Siggy_(Bjornsdottir)/@comment-67.232.0.190-20160416025402/@comment-Breexox11-20160416102440?action=history

/wiki/User:KirstenAbela/wiki/User:KirstenAbela
^ I think we know for sure that Aslaug mistreated her. When Sigurd went to play with her, he found her disgusting that she was so dirty.. and it should have been Aslaug's responsibility to care for her as her own child.
I think Harbard has to do with it as well. Coincidentally, everytime he leaves Kattegat, a Siggy has to die :(
April 18 by KirstenAbela

I've disliked her since she first appeared, and now I hate her. Just wait until her real grandmother Lagertha finds out. Aslaug won't be so flippant about Siggy's death when the others return from France. I was seriously hoping that she would grow up and become the queen who rules after Ragnar's death that the seer predicted. This latest episode also confirms she did indeed give birth to a monster.
April 16 by A Fandom user

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[–] liverpool26 7 years ago

SORRY but the SUMMARY in the link says NOTHING whatsoever about she's DROWNED

I'm not reading your endless rant when your first sentence is a lie, its literally the fourth line and I quote

Full name: Siggy Bjornsdottir
Status: Deceased
Death: Death All 'Round
Manner of Death: Drowned

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

Someone else at another board also started a WIKI page for another film.

That's the problem.

Anyone can create one, and whoever created this one also posted CONTRADICTORY info to it.

And what one FIRST sees at the link is the SUMMARY that says the BODY was THROWN into the MUD (and says nothing whatsoever about drowning).

Then you point out how it also says she DROWNED over in another different and MUCH LESS OBVIOUS section of the LINK.

And these 2 DIFFERENT CLAIMS being made also CONTRADICT each other.

But it also makes no difference ...

because what the site says isn't FACT either and is only the OPINION of someone else ...

which also means YOU'VE DONE precisely what you previously claim was done ...

which is to STATE the OPINION of someone else as if it were FACT when it's not.

And BELOW their OPINION are still MORE OPINIONS, one's that also feel the DEATH was NO ACCIDENT.

And because of your ABRASIVE ATTITUDE and RUDENESS, this is also THE LAST time that one will address you.

Because going around in circles with you also SOLVES nothing.

You have your opinion, others have there's.

C'est la vie.

SO ...

DOES ANYONE ELSE agree with the theory put forth that IVAR is just as JEALOUS of his BROTHER SIGURD as ROLLO was of RAGNAR???

Will RAGNAR recognize this and try to put a STOP to this before the situation between them gets as out of hand as it did with RAGNAR and ROLLO???

SURELY that WOUND on SIGUARD'S EYE that was put there by IVAR's AXE won't be the last time that we see these 2 fighting with each other???

Also wonder if IVAR will kill his brother at some point???

Hopefully SIGURD won't be going to WESSEX with them, because then IVAR could kill him and also claim he'd been killed by the ENEMY.

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[–] TheCheetahPeach 7 years ago

She could have hit her head on something & drowned that way,

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

Yes Cheetah,

there's any number of ways she could have died ...

but when one is watching a show where we've already seen IVAR deliberately KILL another CHILD by HITTING them in the head with his AXE ...

simply because the child was BEATING HIM at the GAME they're playing ...

and now we've also seen IVAR ready to MURDER this other girl to protect the reputation of his PRIVATE PART ...

AND we've also seen the other HEAD WOUND IVAR makes when he throws the AXE at SIGURD ...

when we see LITTLE SIGGY laying there with a HEAD WOUND one also tends to ASSUME IVAR also had something to do with her DEATH as well.

His saying WHO CARES after SIGURD tells them he found her DEAD BODY and his mother LAUGHING further indicates IVAR killed her.

Being JEALOUS of her would most likely also be the reason for this.

He's JEALOUS of his brothers having sex, and wants sex too.

He's JEALOUS of his brothers playing with one another and NOT paying attention to him and giving him PRAISE for being such a good shot with the ARROW.

So if SIGGY was getting a BATH, IVAR may also have seen that as being competition and ATTENTION being taken away from him.

Thus he KILLS the competition with his AXE the same way as he eliminates the other child for beating him at the other game they were playing.

Wonder what will happen when he MEETS RAGNAR'S OTHER SON MAGNUS in WESSEX???

Perhaps POOR MAGNUS will also get an AXE CHOP as well???

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[–] michaelohman 7 years ago

Hey Xxpo!
I think there were many things in the new 11th episode that drew the attention of the kind that "what actually happened in between"?!

I think generally during the whole drama of Vikings, Michael Hurst and his helpers aren't doing a good job either creating good drama or history.

But, but --- here am I. Helping still. Entertained enough to stay out this term writing again, and again.

I think there hasn't been a good long drama explaining the shift between the brothers. So we saw what they managed to do in a swift eye. This first of the new episodes was fixed primary for this, but not long enough.

I'm slow so I wished for all of it slower, like when people say it's not about vikings anymore I kind of half agree.
But I know history passes very quickly here.

Don't you think so?

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

when people say it's not about vikings anymore I kind of half agree

When we got BOGGED DOWN in the WESSEX and PARIS situations, it definitely took a toll and didn't feel like we're watching the VIKINGS anymore.

So it's nice the way this episode stays FOCUSED upon just the MAIN FAMILY members again.

The problem of course is the way all we've had are some VERY BRIEF FLEETING glances of these 4 younger boys, and have NEVER seen or met these other 4 GROWN UP VERSIONS before (until the last 5 min of the FIRST PART of S4).

So for that reason, even though these boys are still also supposed to be VIKINGS, it still also feels like watching a group of STRANGERS taking OVER CENTER STAGE AGAIN.

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But if the relationship between IVAR and SIGURD can also SHED some light on what the relationship was like between RAGNAR and ROLLO back when they were still young boys, then perhaps that could also be HELPFUL in being able to better understand how ROLLO becomes so JEALOUS and ENVIOUS of his brother???

Did they even have the same mother???

Why is it neither one of them ever mentions their childhood or their parents???

Don't you also think it's ODD that 2 brothers who grew up together never discuss their childhood with one another???

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[–] caroline1789 7 years ago

XXPO -- You hit on something that has crossed my mind several times ---NO MENTIION OF THEIR CHILdHOOD! In fact, no one on Vkings ever refers to their fathers or mothers unless the parent or relative had been on the show for awhile,ll,' It's weird. In fact, the only person who refers to her parents is the trumped up "Princess" Aslaug with her apocryphal Valkerie and dragonslayer who died before she could meet them. And you're right; it would be especially interesting ---,almost obligatory in the case Rollo and Ragnar. This oversight on the part of the writers leaves the characters in limbo and robs the viewer of a deeper understanding of them. Clearly the or parents favored Ragnar and I have a hunch they were the only siblings. But the intensity of the love/ hate feelings Rollo harbors and his jealousy is pathological.

Good Post!

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

Clearly the or parents favored Ragnar and I have a hunch they were the only siblings. But the intensity of the love/ hate feelings Rollo harbors and his jealousy is pathological.

Good Post!

Thanks Caroline.

It's always nice to hear someone say how much they appreciate what's been said.

At one point ROLLO does briefly mention their parents to the SEER when he says his parents showed a preference for RAGNAR.

But it is VERY ODD that we've NEVER heard Ragnar mention his parents to his kids, or heard him have a conversation with ROLLO where he says remember the time when MOM did this or DAD did that.

But since most people back then never made it past the age of 30, one can also understand why their parents wouldn't still be around anymore.

But with LAGERTHA and RAGNAR being GRANDPARENTS, apparently it also wasn't impossible to still have a grandparent alive back then. And Ecbert is also a grandfather as well.

And YES, the way ROLLO feels about Ragnar is PATHOLOGICAL.

One also wonders if there's any justification for it other than ROLLO's misguided perception.

Because he also has the ENTIRE VIKING CAMP ... including INNOCENT WOMEN and CHILDREN ... MASSACRED simply because one guy told him that half of those in the CAMP were concerned about the return of RAGNAR and wanted to discuss the matter with him.

So there was also no justification for KILLING EVERYONE in that camp other than ROLLO's PARANOIA getting the best of him.

And we've also seen NO GOOD REASON why IVAR should direct so much HOSTILITY at his brother SIGURD either.

If anything, it's the other 3 boys who should be upset with the way that IVAR's been SPOILED by their MOTHER who's always FAVORED IVAR the most.

But regardless of his DISABILITY, they all seem to feel he has EQUAL STATUS to them, and don't seem to hold a grudge at all for the FAVORITISM that their mother has shown him.

Anyhow, perhaps we'll also learn something more about what happened between ROLLO and RAGNAR during their childhood ...

if and whenever Ragnar mentions something about it to IVAR ...

as a way to get him to see the reason why he needs to get over the HOSTILE way that he feels about his brother SIGURD.

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[–] Elizabeth-Darcy 7 years ago

in an interview of the four new actors the actor who plays Sigurd (I forgot his name) said that Sigurd is the most of his brother who is affected by the events of sseason 4a as he was left by his father and brothers , saw his mother is making love with another man , little siggy is dead and his mother and ivar didn't give a sh!t and the fact that his mosther actually favorited Ivar over him !!! he grown up being the rebellious teenager who hated both his parents and ivar !!!

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

Thanks for telling us about the INTERVIEW ygrittesnow.

It definitely helps to better understand what's going on between these 2 boys.

WHOO HOO!!!

Didn't expect the HOSTILITY between them to ESCALATE so QUICKLY!!!

Anyone else see the scene where IVAR chases after SIGURD GROWLING like a BEAR???

Wonder if this is also what life was like back when ROLLO and RAGNAR were boys???

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[–] Elizabeth-Darcy 7 years ago

I think Rollo was just being jealous of ragnar as he married the woman rollo used to love, living a happily life with her, and gaining glory !!

But the hostility Ivar and Sigured is REAL and terrifying !!!

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

the hostility Ivar and Sigured is REAL and terrifying

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What about that FIGHT we saw between ROLLO and RAGNAR in PARIS???

Didn't you think that was REAL or terrifying???

IVAR only GROWLS at SIGURD and CRAWLS across the FLOOR.

ROLLO and RAGNAR were doing much more than just GROWLING at each other.

They beat the living crap out of one another.

Remember how BEATEN UP ROLLO looks in the scene where the congratulate him???

He looks like the CRUCIFIED ATHELSTAN in that scene.

Same SWOLEN UP BLOODY EYE.

SAME kind of WOUNDS, CUTS, and BRUISES from his being BEATEN by the FISTS of RAGNAR.

At least IVAR and SIGURD have been separated now.

But FLOKI is also ON THE VOYAGE to the BIG BLUE with BJORN.

So maybe when FLOKI gets his hands on ROLLO it will also be even MORE TERRIFYING than when RAGNAR confronted him???

AND ...

RAGNAR may or MAY NOT end up inside of a SNAKE PITT,

but ROLLO's HEAD HANGING UP on a VIKING BOAT would be an even MORE IMPRESSIVE SIGHT to SEE.

WATCH OUT ROLLO!!!

HERE COME'S FLOKI !!!

THE AGENT of the DARK GODS who will do away with you the same way as he did ATHELSTAN after he REMOVED his ARM BAND just like you have.

GO FLOKI !!!

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[–] Elizabeth-Darcy 7 years ago

BTW you can read the interview here : http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/22/vikings-meet-the-four-new-actors-revealed-in-season-4s-midseason-finale

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

So SIGURD stayed behind in KATTEGAT with UBBE which means he and IVAR won't be fighting with each other anymore for a while???

But LAGERTHA will attack KATTEGAT next week with only UBBE and SIGURD there to protect it???

SIGURD was pretty good with that AXE he threw at IVAR.

He was good enough to knock his weapon out of his hand.

LAGERTHA better be careful and not get to close to him.

And UBBE was also pretty good with the BOW and ARROW.

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[–] movie_nazi 7 years ago

You guys do realize that anyone can edit those wikia links you keep using as your "evidence" . If you want I can change it to say Siggy rode a roller coaster into Valhalla.

My Vote history: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1914996/ratings

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

You guys do realize that anyone can edit those wikia links you keep using as your "evidence" . If you want I can change it to say Siggy rode a roller coaster into Valhalla.

No the other poster didn't understand this at all.

They attack what's been said by saying it's ONLY AN OPINION that's not BASED on FACT.

Then they post a LINK that contains NOTHING MORE than the OPINION of someone else and CLAIM that OPINION is a FACT.

It's definitely a "DO AS THEY SAY but NOT as THEY DO THEMSELVES" situation.

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And once this was also pointed out to them ...

how they've done the SAME THING that they accused someone else of doing ...

SILENCE ensues ...

rather than ADMIT that the STATEMENT that was MADE in the LINK ...

that they claim PROVES their POINT ...

also PROVES NOTHING.

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UNFORTUNATELY, LOGIC and RATIONAL THINKING seems to be in VERY SHORT SUPPLY HERE at this forum.

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[–] TheCheetahPeach 7 years ago

I think it's because he remembers how as laugh & I at didn't give a *beep* about sigh or her death and because he remembers the whole axe incident. Those things probably stuck with him for all those years.

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