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Why no criticism for King Ecbert?


He engineered the destruction of the Viking colony in England to maintain his power and security, yet some posters direct sole responsibility to Ragnar for the disaster.

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Because King Ecbert is suppose to be the villian, so he is expected to do that.

Ragnar is suppose to be the good guy.
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Nobody is a "good guy" or "bad guy" in the show. Not in any conventional film\tv sense. They're just people, flawed human beings like real life people. So no, Eckbert isn't meant to be a "bad guy", it's far more complicated than that. It's up to the viewer who they like or dislike.

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ECBERT was also the one who SENDS that OLD MAN back to KATTEGAT so he'd tell EVERYONE there what had happened.

Because ECBERT also knew when the OLD MAN told everyone about it, that would also LESSEN the STATUS of RAGNAR.

That's also why RAGNAR KILLED the OLD MAN.

Because he also KNEW the OLD MAN had LIED to him and was ECBERT'S PUPPET.

Because if the OLD MAN really CARED as much about his FAMILY as he PRETENDS TO then he'd also have DIED defending them.

But other posters also don't UNDERSTAND this.

Or the way that OLD MAN didn't really MAKE IT ALL the way BACK to KATTEGAT again ALL by himself in a ROW BOAT.

And now that those in KATTEGAT have been MADE RICH by the PARIS TREASURE, they also feel COCKY ENOUGH to be RUDE to RAGNAR,

the same way as THE BROOD MARE was also RUDE to LAGERTHA,

when she suggested she also be a part of the CEREMONY to give her SON BJORN a SAFE SEND OFF on his VOYAGE.

But just like the rest of those in the VILLAGE who show NO RESPECT for RAGNAR and for what he's done for them,

THE BROOD MARE also shows no RESPECT for LAGERTHA either (who also USED her ARMY to get back KATTEGAT again from BORG for THE UNGRATEFUL BROOD MARE who also NEVER offers to pay her anything for the USE of her ARMY).

And that's also why it will be nice to see all of those who took BRIBES from RAGNAR DIE at SEA.

And it's also why it will also be nice to see LAGERTHA put THE UPPITY BROOD MARE into her proper place next week for REFUSING to let her HELP during the CEREMONY for her SON BJORN's VOYAGE that LAGERTHA also wasn't even INVITED to attend.

Imagine if LAGERTHA had a GOING AWAY PARTY for IVAR in HEDEBY and then didn't even invite the BROOD MARE to ATTEND IT.

How would she like it???

She'd NO DOUBT have had a MAJOR HISSY FIT about it.

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Because Egbert has done what he had to do as a King. First duty to his people vs first fury to one's family is 5he same Protect. AnnihilatING the colony of pagan invaders is making sense from his perspective. True Ragnar and his merry men of Kattegat are presented as the main characters of the show but it does not imply they are right. Invaders are invaders and nuts be ruthlessly brought to heel. Thinking here of recent European events of the last 200ys. What you call villainy I call real-politik.
Angelism may earn you an admission ticket to the pearly gates but not protecting your people efficiently will lead you to a trial for dereliction of duty. And a direct access to Hell.

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Egbert has done what he had to do as a King. First duty to his people


ECBERT also DOUBLE CROSSED the NOBELS and TRICKS THEM into KILLING EVERYONE in that SETTLEMENT.

That wasn't DOING HIS DUTY.

That was taking POWER AWAY from people who had it so he could have MORE OF IT for himself.

It's the same thing KING HORIK tries to do to BORG and to RAGNAR when he tried to take over CONTROL of KATTEGAT.

You only FOOL yourself by thinking these CORRUPTED KINGS have the BEST INTEREST of their PEOPLE at heart.

If there was any JUSTICE, ECBERT would have been DEPOSED for the way he TRICKS the NOBELS out of their land, gives it to the VIKINGS, and then TRICKS them into KILLING the VIKINGS in that SETTLEMENT.

But let's just WALK AROUND with our EYES WIDE SHUT, OVER LOOK all of this, and PRETEND as if ECBERT did what he needed to do and didn't do it as a way to GRAB HOLD of still more POWER for himself???

IS THAT IT???

Sorry but I don't think that's going to work.





ECBERT also DOUBLE CROSSED KING AELLE by telling him he'd SHARE MERCIA with him and then didn't.

KARMA is definitely coming to pay him a visit soon.

He's screwed over too many people now for it not to catch up with him.



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