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Ragnar throwing MONEY at the people in KATTEGAT

posted 7 years ago by xxpo
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Did the scene where the GREEDY PEOPLE of KATTEGAT demanded the TREAUSRE and Ragnar throws all of the MONEY at them saying TAKE IT remind anyone else of the scene where JESUS turns over the tables of the MONEY LENDERS???

Also looks like the VIKING GODS sent them the STORM at SEA for the way that they behaved back in KATTEGAT???

Are RAGNAR and IVAR also the only ones who survived the ship wreck???

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[–] movie_nazi 7 years ago

Hmm, not sure why you make THE connection with Jesus AND the money lenders IN the temple. Maybe because a BEARDED white guy flipping money AROUND? I DON'T know, I see no connection.

I'M sure more PEOPLE survived the WRECK that JUST Ragnar AND Ivar.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

not sure why you make THE connection with Jesus AND the money lenders IN the temple. Maybe because a BEARDED white guy flipping money AROUND? I DON'T know, I see no connection.

As you may recall, this isn't the FIRST TIME the WRITER for the show has made reference to JESUS.

ATHELSTAN was CRUCIFIED on the CROSS like JESUS.

He also sees a vision of what looks like the VIRGIN MARY coming towards him.

And we've also see a STATUE of the VIRGIN MARY crying in PARIS.

And we've also seen ATHELSTAN having the other vision where he sees the HOLES in his hands BLEEDING.

So it's not UNUSUAL that the WRITER is making still another CONNECTION to what happens in the BIBLE again.

The GIST of it is this:

The MONEY LENDERS were being GREEDY.

The people in KATTEGAT were also being GREEDY.

Jesus got upset at them for their GREED.

RAGNAR gets upset at those in KATTEGAT for their GREED.

WHY does that MAN DEMAND to be given the ENTIRE TREASURE CHESTS full of COINS???

WHY did he think he had the right to INSULT RAGNAR in front of all the rest of the people the way he did when Ragnar asked if anyone was willing to help him SEEK REVENGE??

The MAN PRETENDS to CARE so much about those in the WESSEX SETTLEMENT, but when ASKED to do something about what's happened to them all the man wants is a BRIBE before he's willing to HONOR their MEMORY???

And instead of being willing to accept what RAGNAR offers the others, he also wants the ENTIRE CHEST FULL of COINS???

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[–] movie_nazi 7 years ago

As you may recall, this isn't the FIRST TIME the WRITER for the show has made reference to JESUS.

ATHELSTAN was CRUCIFIED on the CROSS like JESUS.

He also sees a vision of what looks like the VIRGIN MARY coming towards him.

Uh, yeah. Athelstan WAS a priest and also THE show's way OF introducing Christianity TO the Vikings. The show also made an EXPLICIT effort to show ATHELSTAN being divided by his FAITH and HIS loyalty to Ragnar. So of COURSE you are GOING to GET a LOT of CHRISTIAN THEMES involving HIM.

The situation WITH Jesus WAS that HE noticed MONEY-lenders doing their BUSINESS in the temple and became ENRAGED and began FLIPPING over their counters AND yelling FOR them TO get out. He wasn't GIVING away any money OR throwing money TO people. So I STILL fail to see why you think THEY are the SAME. THE only THING they have in common is perhaps money FLYING through THE air, that's IT. It's like saying, "Hey, doesn't that money BLOWING machine REMIND you OF Jesus in THE temple?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlpDL-bq37E

WHY does that MAN DEMAND to be given the ENTIRE TREASURE CHESTS full of COINS???

Because he is a GREEDY fk and DOESN'T give a damn ABOUT those people THAT died. He IS your typical political FINGER wetter to SEE which WAY the wind IS blowing. It is CURRENTLY "hip" to disavow Ragnar so HE does it but AS we ALL know these type WILL do anything FOR money.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

The show also made an EXPLICIT effort to show ATHELSTAN being divided by his FAITH and HIS loyalty to Ragnar. So of COURSE you are GOING to GET a LOT of CHRISTIAN THEMES involving HIM.

After the death of ATHELSTAN RAGNAR also had a VISION in PARIS where he SEES a VISION of JESUS.

It's the one where he also sees ATHELSTAN reaching out to him with his hand, AND then you also see a VISION of ODIN and one of JESUS.

So ATHELSTAN isn't the only one who's seen VISIONS of JESUS.

And ATHELSTAN also taught RAGNAR THE LORD'S PRAYER after he asked ATHELSTAN to teach him HOW to PRAY.

He wasn't GIVING away any money OR throwing money TO people. So I STILL fail to see why you think THEY are the SAME.

JESUS was UPSET that the MONEY LENDERS were being GREEDY by CHARGING PEOPLE INTEREST on the MONEY that they gave them at the TEMPLE.

He saw this as an INSULT to the TEACHINGS of the RELIGION he practiced.

RAGNAR also sees having to HAND over MONEY to the people of KATTEGAT as an INSULT.

They should be WILLING to go to WESSEX to DEFEND THE HONOR of their RELATIVES without needing to be paid a BRIDE to do so.

Because he is a GREEDY fk and DOESN'T give a damn ABOUT those people THAT died. He IS your typical political FINGER wetter to SEE which WAY the wind IS blowing. It is CURRENTLY "hip" to disavow Ragnar so HE does it but AS we ALL know these type WILL do anything FOR money.

YES EXACTLY.

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WELL PUT.

THE MONEY LENDERS also didn't give a HOOT about the RELIGION they pretended to CARE ABOUT and were only there to MAKE MONEY.

Just like The people of KATTEGAT also don't give a HOOT about the SETTLEMENT EITHER and ONLY PRETEND to CARE about it.

THE BROOD MARE also doesn't really CARE about BJORN either.

If she did, she'd NEVER have LAUGHED about the DEATH of his DAUGHTER.

So insisting that only she was QUALIFIED to give him a GOING AWAY PARTY and then NOT EVEN INVITING his OWN MOTHER to it also only ADDS INSULT to INJURY.

Remember how SURPRISED BJORN was to see HIS OWN MOTHER at his GOING AWAY PARTY???

The QUESTION is WHY would he NOT EXPECT to see her there???

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[–] movie_nazi 7 years ago

JESUS was UPSET that the MONEY LENDERS were being GREEDY by CHARGING PEOPLE INTEREST on the MONEY that they gave them at the TEMPLE.

Hmm, I have to stand down on that one. I haven't been to Sunday school for a very long time but as I remember Jesus was simply upset that they had the gall to do business in a place of worship and had nothing to do with the charging people interest. Of course different people have different interpretations.

THE BROOD MARE also doesn't really CARE about BJORN either.

I have read your other posts against Aslaug and I also agree with you on this point. She is an opportunist dirtbag pure and simple. I started to think different when she offered to take care of Siggy but then that turned out to be a disaster. Plus I don't see how anyone can justify her sleeping with that charlatan. You can't look upon it with modern eyes. In those days Queens were about virtuosity and faithfulness and were expected to remain clean for their Kings. Not give away their puzzy for payment like a common whore.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple

Jesus and his disciples travel to Jerusalem for Passover, where Jesus expels the merchants and money changers from the Temple, accusing them of turning the Temple into "a den of thieves" through their commercial activities

And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. And he told those who sold the pigeons, "Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade

And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
— Matthew 21:12–13

Jesus accused the Temple authorities of thieving and this time names poor widows as their victims, going on to provide evidence of this in Mark 12:42 and Luke 21:2. Dove sellers were selling doves that were sacrificed by the poor who could not afford grander sacrifices and specifically by women

It's a bit like JIM MORRISON getting upset with the rest of his band members in THE DOORS when Jim sees they've sold the rights to LIGHT MY FIRE to someone who makes a COMMERCIAL out of the song.

Then he picks up the TV SET where he sees the COMMERCIAL playing and throws it through the GLASS of the RECORDING STUDIO in PROTEST of this kind of CORRUPTION of the song they've written.

The HISTORY CHANNEL also use to have a series of shows where they discussed passages in the BIBLE with experts in that field of study.

And one of them explains how it was the CHARGING of INTEREST that upsets Jesus so much (in addition to the MONEY LENDERS also not really being there because they gave a HOOT about the RELIGION).

I have read your other posts against Aslaug and I also agree with you on this point. She is an opportunist dirtbag pure and simple

Yes, she is, and she'd probably also be DEAD by now IF it had been HARALDSON or HORIK or BORG that she went after instead of RAGNAR.

Because RAGNAR comes from a FARMING background where PEOPLE didn't PLAY the DIRTY KIND of MIND GAMES with other people that we see SIGGY'S HUBBY DOING and HORIK doing when he asks SIGGY to also have SEX with his TEENAGE SON so he'd also know what it was like to screw an UPPER CLASS WOMAN instead of the other SLUTTY types he'd been with.

So IF THE BROOD MARE had shown up at HORIK'S FRONT DOOR 9 MONTHS LATER with her BIG BELLY, she'd no doubt have also ended up DEAD as a DOORNAIL.

SAME situation with HARALDSON who MURDERS the other man he told to HAVE SEX with his wife and then KILLS him for doing what he's told it was ok to do.

HARALDSON would no doubt have also had THE BROOD MARE MURDERED as well if she had the NERVE to show up at his door and then PROCEEDS to INSULT HIS WIFE for not having parents as FAMOUS as she does.

HORIK also LAUGHS at her when she BRAGS about her father killing a DRAGON saying he'd NEVER SEEN One.

So she's also LUCKY that RAGNAR starts out as a FARM BOY who hadn't already been CORRUPTED by living in the LAP of LUXURY.

Otherwise she'd probably have been KILLED a very long time ago, just like RAGNAR kills that other OLD MAN when he shows up telling him a PACK of LIES.

One also suspects the OLDEST BOY she gave birth to may not even be the GENETIC OFFSPRING of RAGNAR.

And that would also EXPLAIN the reason why she WAITS 9 MONTHS before she shows up at his door.

Because she was probably still busy trying to get the REAL FATHER to dump his wife.

And when that plan fails she shows up at RAGNAR'S DOOR.

PLUS waiting all of that time also keeps others from being able to COUNT how many MOONS had passed since RAGNAR had SEX with her.

Did you also NOTE how the OLDEST BOY doesn't look very much like the other boys???

Too bad they didn't have DNA test back then or know about how to use a BLOOD TEST as a way to prove or disprove paternity.

Also wonder if UBBE will be the one to marry this other SERVANT GIRL is she ends up pregnant.

Because he's also the ONLY ONE who saw her as being a HUMAN.

It will also be INTERESTING to see if she OBJECTS to her SON marrying a SERVANT GIRL when she also SHOVES BJORN into a marriage with her other SERVANT GIRL named PORUNN.

Because if she does OBJECT, then that would also make her a 2 FACED HYPOCRITE who tried to ruin BJORN'S ability to be the NEXT KING.

Because she'd probably also say his WIFE had no experience and wasn't worthy enough to be a QUEEN???

THE BROOD MARE is definitely one VERY TRICKY WITCH.

Hopefully LAGERTHA will also put an END to the SPELLS she's been casting (like the one that she also CAST UPON Ragnar by wearing the SEE THROUGH FISH NET to show off her BODY when she first meets him).

Her TRICKERY succeeds then, but later on it also COMMITS SUICIDE in the end.

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[–] movie_nazi 7 years ago

Did you also NOTE how the OLDEST BOY doesn't look very much like the other boys???

Which one is the oldest? I thought Ubbe was. The one who really looks out of place is Ivar ith his dark hair.

Also wonder if UBBE will be the one to marry this other SERVANT GIRL is she ends up pregnant.

I doubt it. He may acknowledge the child as his and take care of it but marry her seems crazy. He talks about all the pzzy he is banging where he doesn't even know their names.

It will also be INTERESTING to see if she OBJECTS to her SON marrying a SERVANT GIRL when she also SHOVES BJORN into a marriage with her other SERVANT GIRL named PORUNN.

Did he shove Bjorn into that marriage? If I remember correctly Bjorn falls in love with her.

Hopefully LAGERTHA will also put an END to the SPELLS she's been casting (like the one that she also CAST UPON Ragnar by wearing the SEE THROUGH FISH NET to show off her BODY when she first meets him).

I love Lagertha. She is just so GD sexy. Not just her looks but her strong personality and intelligence makes me horny. Did she purposely murder the child she was carrying from whatshisface?

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[–] larosat 7 years ago

No not at all and very different. Ragnar is recruiting sailors for his vojage. The only real greedy one was the guy he accused earlier at the market. And yes it seems only Ragnar and Ivar survived. I'm guessing due to Ragnar having tied Ivar earlier to the mast; he was able to use it as a lifesaver. Not really sure if it would float but being tethered to the sail might have helped. Of course you can just use the ' all the others were red shirts ' trope and there to important to perish that way.

[–] xxpo 7 years ago

larosat:

Don't you think it's WRONG for any of them to TAKE a BRIBE from RAGNAR ...

when they should also be WILLING to GO BACK and SEEK REVENGE for the DEATHS of their RELATIVES that they ONLY PRETEND to care so much about???

If they REALLY CARED about them then shouldn't they have tried to stay in CONTACT with them and already have know they were dead???

One can understand why that may not be the case back when they were still a SMALL FISHING VILLAGE,

but KATTEGAT is a MAJOR TRADING CENTER now.

So there's NO EXCUSE for this or for their NOT MAKING an attempt to KEEP IN TOUCH with them.

Other messages from WESSEX also don't seem to have any problem crossing the sea.

But NONE of these people tried to contact any of their RELATIVES for all of these YEARS???

And then they also have to be BRIBED to HONOR their MEMORY???

If they did ALL PERISH in the STORM, then, imo, it's also a FITTING ENDING for them.

Didn't IVAR also call them the DREGS of the society???

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RE: UBBE

Yes you're right.

UBBE is the OLDEST SON the BROOD MARE gives birth to.

The WIKI link also tells us He was born in 796

and HVITSERK was born in 797.

With Lagertha:
Bjorn (Son)
Gyda † (Daughter)
Unnamed †
With Aslaug:
Ubbe (Son)
Hvitserk (Son)
Sigurd (Son)
Ivar (Son)
With Kwenthrith †:
Magnus (Alleged son)

http://vikings.wikia.com/wiki/Ubbe
BORN 796

http://vikings.wikia.com/wiki/Hvitserk
BORN 797

And Hvitserk is also the one who doesn't LOOK very much like RAGNAR.

THE BROOD MARE gives PORUNN her FREEDOM. When she did this, it also appeared she was doing it for BJORN. But when PORUNN then proceeds to ADMIRE and try to IMITATE LAGERTHA, wonder how that made THE BROOD MARE feel???

And now that she's NEGLECTED LITTLE SIGGY, one also wonders if she RESENTS being asked by PORUNN to take care of her.

And when she LAUGHS about the death of this child, one also wonders if maybe the PLAN was to have BJORN MARRY her SLAVE GIRL as a way to try and UNDERMINE BJORN's right as the OLDEST SON of RAGNAR to be the next one to RULE KATTEGAT.

Because when she INSULTS LAGERTHA for ONLY being the DAUGHTER of a FARMER, and the status of PORUNN was even LOWER than that, perhaps the BROOD MARE would also have tried to use the STATUS of PORUNN against BJORN if and whenever he did try to take over control of the throne???

But that plan may have also BACKFIRED on THE WICKED STEP MOTHER when PORUNN tries to be A WARRIOR like LAGERTHA???

Also wonder if this NEW BABY that BORG'S FORMER WIFE has given birth to will LIVE or not???

The SONS of the BROOD MARE may also see it as being COMPETITION for the THRONE???

ESPECIALLY someone like IVAR???

Hope this NEW baby doesn't also end up with the CHOP of an AXE HOLE in it's SCALP.

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