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Will Political Correctness ruin this show?


1. Forced homosexuality everywhere. We get it, someone in the viking age were probably gay but making out like that on a vikings show doesnt make any sense. I dont think the vikings were know for homosexuality.

In 2016 homosexuality is like propaganda, it must be forced on you everywhere and if you dont like it you are against gay rights.

I dont care if people are gay but I care when homosexuality is forced on you everywhere.


2. Too many women in battle. It seems that more and more women are joining the battle for every season. Soon we might see Lagertha raid with only female soliders???
In real life women have no chance against men in battle, its a fact.


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There were female warriors in Viking society: https://www.tor.com/2015/06/08/viking-warrior-women-did-shieldmaidens-like-lagertha-really-exist/

Homosexuality is less documented. However, as long as one married and reproduced, you could do whatever on the side: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/gayvik.shtml

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Did you even read what I wrote? The point was not if gay soldiers and female soldiers existed or not. I dont think the vikings could invade anyone if 1/3 of the soldiers were women.

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Even though that's how they were in actual history.
Are you trying to say you'd be able to defeat an actual Shield maiden? A woman who's trained to fight brutally, cruelly and without fear since childhood?
Soldiers in England and Frankia at the time didn't train from childhood, they were conscripted, given a crash course on combat, given a sword and thrown out onto the front line. Most were just farmer boys and other innocent occupations.
Which is why a force of about 40 Vikings led by Ubbe managed to kill 800 English soldiers. Compared to the Vikings, they were choirboys. Vikings were like the SAS of back then.

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Which is why a force of about 40 Vikings led by Ubbe managed to kill 800 English soldiers. Compared to the Vikings, they were choirboys. Vikings were like the SAS of back then.


True, yet King Alfred managed in the end to keep them from taking all of England.

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Someone had to.
I hope we get to see the Vikings invade Scotland and get their arses kicked. Scotland sends everyone homeward.

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Yeah, it seems the current fashion to promote gay orientation but all it does is "serve" the approval-seeking followers of what seems cool. Like advertising, the big business artistic community may have decided to repeat the message over and over about equality in order to program people's minds, because indoctrination seems to be the popular method to get a message across rather than say allowing parents or guardians be unhindered influencers of children/teenagers and to decide independently what values they wish to impart. Equally, teenagers and adults have the right to decide for themselves what they value without propaganda attempting to "train them" into to adopt "approved" beliefs and values. Gay orientation doesn't need approval or promotion just freedom and the right to be what it is.

I think in terms of having a certain level of fitness and training the warrior women depicted in the show do prove themselves capable in battle. The objectives of a Viking warrior seem to be:

- highly focused mental attitude

- dexterity with weapons

- fearless aggressive approach

- physical fitness and strength

- agility

Lagertha has for her whole life worked hard, known physical labour, trained for several years to be a shieldmaiden, and has the ability to control her emotions to not allow fear or doubt become dominant when faced with an aggressive attack or a battle scenario. This is in contrast to the women in the community who have chosen a solely domestic female role who would probably not be as capable as her in a war situation.

There are historical accounts of shieldmaidens in battle:

There are few historic attestations that Viking Age women took part in warfare,[6] but the Byzantine historian John Skylitzes records that women fought in battle when Sviatoslav I of Kiev attacked the Byzantines in Bulgaria in 971.[6] When the Varangians (not to be confused with the Byzantine Varangian Guard) had suffered a devastating defeat in the Siege of Dorostolon, the victors were stunned at discovering armed women among the fallen warriors.[6]

When Leif Erikson's pregnant half-sister Freydís Eiríksdóttir was in Vinland, she is reported to have taken up a sword, and, bare-breasted, scared away the attacking Skrælings.[6] The fight is recounted in the Greenland saga, though Freydís is not explicitly referred to as a shieldmaiden in the text.[7]

Saxo Grammaticus reported that shieldmaidens fought on the side of the Danes at the Battle of Brávellir in the year 750:

Now out of the town of Sle, under the captains Hetha (Heid) and Wisna, with Hakon Cut-cheek came Tummi the Sailmaker. On these captains, who had the bodies of women, nature bestowed the souls of men. Webiorg was also inspired with the same spirit, and was attended by Bo (Bui) Bramason and Brat the Jute, thirsting for war.
— Saxo Grammaticus[8]
[Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shieldmaiden ]

Compare to the historical Amazons:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis/

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Lagertha is one hell of a woman in this no doubt but cmon, a couple of kids a couple of miscarriages numerous fighting in battles and a harsh climate and she still looks like she did in ep1 with no issues while Ragnar looks like a weathered old bum. She is also amazing at martial arts going by the constant screentime we keep getting of her doing it including with her new gay lover who is as annoying as Ragnars asian druggie friend.

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I'm so sick of Hollywood pushing blonds. I have no problem with blonds but don't need to have them forced on me.

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And I'm damn sick of humans being forced on us. Why don't we have a show about aliens only. Space ones, not illegal ones. Where's the support??

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The all female viking army is kinda out there. As is their perfect hair and make up no doubt during a battle.

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Everywhere? Haha, hyperbole much?

So one homosexual relationship is suddenly being forced on you?

Please give us your credentials on Viking sexual practices.

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Are you going to go to every post on this subject and say the same thing?

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We get it, you hate gay people and strong women. This lukewarm "not too much in my face on TV" acceptance is honestly just as bad if not worse than outright saying "no f**s or d***s and no butch chicks". You act like you were just tied to a chair and forced to watch gay porn because Lagertha kissed a girl.

And yes, there were LGBT people in Scandinavia during the Viking age, and of course there were "gay" Vikings, though homosexuality itself is actually a fairly modern Westernized concept to having same-sex attractions, which is viewed differently across many cultures. For all you know the historical Lagertha could have actually had a lesbian experience or two. It wouldn't be that shocking. There's plenty of evidence that there were "LGBT" (modern concept) people long before the Viking age in many cultures across the world. It's about time there were more LGBT characters in the media. It's called media representation and it's important.

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Before you wrote this nonsense you should have read what I wrote.

Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
― Stephen R. Covey

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It has nothing to do with hating gay people, but way to elevate the discussion by resorting to the same tired old argument.

As a woman, I resent every man in the field of entertainment creating movies and/or television programs, which seem to imply that every woman deep down inside is a lesbian. They are just waiting for some nice lesbian to come along and drag them out of the closet. It really is ridiculous.

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2. Too many women in battle. It seems that more and more women are joining the battle for every season. Soon we might see Lagertha raid with only female soliders???
In real life women have no chance against men in battle, its a fact.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis/

The real Amazons were long believed to be purely imaginary. They were the mythical warrior women who were the archenemies of the ancient Greeks. Every Greek hero or champion, from Hercules to Theseus and Achilles, had to prove his mettle by fighting a powerful warrior queen.

We know their names: Hippolyta, Antiope, Thessalia. But they were long thought to be just travelers' tales or products of the Greek storytelling imagination. A lot of scholars still argue that. But archaeology has now proven without a doubt that there really were women fitting the description that the Greeks gave us of Amazons and warrior women.

The Greeks located them in the areas north and east of the Mediterranean on the vast steppes of Eurasia. Archaeologists have been digging up thousands of graves of people called Scythians by the Greeks. They turn out to be people whose women fought, hunted, rode horses, used bows and arrows, just like the men. (See "Masters of Gold.")

They've been excavating Scythian kurgans, which are the burial mounds of these nomadic peoples. They all had horse-centred lifestyles, ranging across vast distances from the Black Sea all the way to Mongolia. They lived in small tribes, so it makes sense that everyone in the tribe is a stakeholder. They all have to contribute to defense and to war efforts and hunting. They all have to be able to defend themselves.

a woman on a horse with a bow, trained since childhood, can be just as fast and as deadly as a boy or man.

Archaeologists have found skeletons buried with bows and arrows and quivers and spears and horses. At first they assumed that anyone buried with weapons in that region must have been a male warrior. But with the advent of DNA testing and other bioarchaeological scientific analysis, they've found that about one-third of all Scythian women are buried with weapons and have war injuries just like the men. The women were also buried with knives and daggers and tools. So burial with masculine-seeming grave goods is no longer taken as an indicator of a male warrior. It's overwhelming proof that there were women answering to the description of the ancient Amazons.


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"2. Too many women in battle. It seems that more and more women are joining the battle for every season. Soon we might see Lagertha raid with only female soliders???"

Real Vikings...you should watch it tonight and educate yourself.

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