Really wish they'd get rid of Aslaug
Cannot stand her. Lagartha is such a better actress, character, and is much hotter.
shareCannot stand her. Lagartha is such a better actress, character, and is much hotter.
shareYes, Lagertha is amazingly vampire ageless, never hair or makeup out of place place Viking godess , she is so realistic.โบ
shareNot to mention Lagertha is literally a castrating bitch.
http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/
Here's an interesting message posted by a 73 YEAR OLD WOMAN ...
who says she wants to be REBORN again and come back again as her BELOVED IDOL LAGERTHA:
https://www.facebook.com/Vikings/photos/a.314089785362569.63867.258436810927867/1010587962379411/?type=1&theaterVictoria Frittitta I love this series and am 73 now...
I've decided if there is another life after mine to one day come back reborn as Lagertha...
can't wait!!!!
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LAGERTHA GETTING RID of THE BROOD MARE is going to be GREAT!!!
CAN HARDLY WAIT to see this happening!!!
GO LAGERTHA!!!
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Not me. I want her to stay.
shareMe, too. Lagertha is off doing whatever she does. Most of her activities include fighting and sleeping with whoever can give her a title. Aslaug is much more interesting and multifaceted than Lagertha: She has the ability to see the future, albeit imperfectly. She has ruled and held Kattegat and made it survive and prosper in his absences and she has raised her children, including Ivar,who because of his crippled legs, Ragnar would have exposed to die as was the custom, but for Aslaug's insistence on saving and nurturing her son. She also looked after Bjorn and tried to counsel Porunn, while Lagertha was off on her own agenda. Aslaug has not attempted to turn Ragnar's sons against him as he praised her for tonight, even though she had plenty of reason. She is the better person.
Aslaug should not be blamed for coming between Ragnar and Lagertha. As I remember, Ragnar never mentioned to her that he was married. Ragnar would undoubtedly have replaced Lagertha in any case because of her inability to bear more children, especially sons.
Ragnar has never felt he had to be faithful, although in a nod to modern mores he faults Aslaug for sleeping the first time with Harbard, which she did as the only thanks she could give him for curing Ivar's pain, Kattegat being very poor at that time in addition to which Aslaug saw him as a supernatural being.
I doubt that faithfulness was part of Viking mores, anyway.
While in England, it seems that Ragnar had an affair with crazy Queen Kwenthrith resulting in another son, Magnus. No love was involved.
He has had sons with three different women. He is the one who chose.
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
CORRECTIONS:
The MANIPULATIVE HOME WRECKER definitely KNEW RAGNAR was married because she came to him in the MIDDLE of the NIGHT and then had SEX with him right in front of his 13 YEAR OLD SON as a way to make sure that he told his mother about it.
The ALCOHOLIC BROOD MARE (who also sat there NEARLY PASSED OUT TONIGHT while LAGERTHA told her off for WRECKING HER LIFE) also had NOTHING to do with KATTEGAT becoming a TRADE CENTER.
It's the TREASURE RAGNAR brought back from PARIS that did that.
And she's also done a LOUSY JOB of RAISING 2 of HER SONS who HATE her now.
IVAR for the way SHE SMOTHERED him to death and kept him from RAGNAR.
SIGURD for the way that she always FAVORED IVAR.
She's like POISON, and anyone that has contact with her suffers as a result of it.
She also didn't LOOK after BJORN. FLOKI did, when he followed him around to make sure that he was safe from HARM back when HORIK was still hanging around.
Ragnar is also wrong when he said she did nothing to turn his sons against him.
She NEVER let him have a relationship with IVAR. Each time he tried to she'd SNATCH IVAR away from him telling RAGNAR to leave him alone.
And WHY do you think NONE of them except for IVAR have RESPECT for RAGNAR now.
It's because of THE BROOD MARE, who RAN RAGNAR OFF by being such an UNBEARABLE BITCH, and saying CRUEL things to him about his friend ATHLESTAN.
But instead of RUNNING her off the way that he should have ...
back when she first SHOWS UP UNINVITED in KATTEGAT on that BOAT showing off her SERVANT GIRLS in MATCHING OUTFITS ...
or running her off after what she said about ATHELSTAN ...
he LEAVES HIMSELF so that she wouldn't UPROOT and take the boys with her if she left.
Because he also knew if he stayed he'd have ended up KILLING HER.
And now ALL the boys RESENT HIM for ABANDONING THEM, which was also done because Ragnar couldn't stand to be around their MOTHER anymore.
Thus the reason why she MOST DEFINITELY DID TURN THEM AGAINST HIM by making him so MISERABLE whenever he was around her.
She's probably also been BAD MOUTHING him in his ABSENCE as well, which is why they were having the conversation about KILLING HIM before he came back again.
But of course she'd also never admit doing it after he also lost him temper and HIT HER for what she said about ATHELSTAN.
Since HARBARD was also FREE LOADING off of her, eating her FOOD, staying in her home, etc. there's also no reason why she OWES him anything for helping IVAR.
Sorry, but The ATTEMPT to WHITEWASH OVER what she's done doesn't work.
Anyone can easily see how she SET OUT to SHOVE LAGERTHA out of her way so she could have RAGNAR all to herself.
She also came to him wearing NOTHING else but that SEE THROUGH FISH NET as a way to SHOW OFF her body and SEDUCE him because like HORIK and BORG she'd also heard the stories about his FAME and GLORY for his sailing WEST.
So the GOLD DIGGER THREW herself at him SEXUALLY, GETS PREGNANT, and then SHOWS up on his DOOR STEP 9 months later and proceeds to INSULT his wife, so that she'd LEAVE HIM (after he'd also PROMISED LAGERTHA that he'd NEVER see THE HOMEWRECKING BROOD MARE again).
Then she also gets PISSED that RAGNAR never LOVED her ... and has the affair with HARBARD ... who CHEATS on her and turns her into a DRUNK ... who sits around all day SIPPING from that WINE CUP because she feels SORRY for herself.
But she also has NO ONE ELSE to blame but herself for the LOVELESS MARRIAGE that she's in now.
She TRICKS her way into RAGNAR's life expecting him to LOVE her more than the wife that he LOVED and had already been married to for at least 14 YEARS.
She was so SURE that she was such a BETTER PRIZE than his wife was that it also never even occurred to her that her PLAN to get rid of LAGERTHA wouldn't work for her in the end.
And now she's also nothing more than a BITTER DRUNK.
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They hate him because he abandoned his family. He poisoned himself against his sons for being coward who ran away. Ivar clearly loves his mom. Lets remember if it wasn't for her he would be dead. She is of course going to be protective of him. Thats only natural. She did keep everything together in the community. Money can only do so much if you don't have leader. Ragnar could have said no. The only reason you hate her is because of Ragnar throwing aside Lagertha to have sons with her. Lagertha isn't any better than Aslaug.
shareAslaug is much more interesting and multifaceted than Lagertha
Azzlog is the most boring character on the show and it's been that way since she made her grand entrance - NOT - with the Malamute. I seriously hope Lagertha kills her soon. I especially love Lagertha's latest line to the Queen. "I forget nothing" and something along the lines that she hasn't forgotten how Azzlog stole Ragnar and basically Lagertha's life away from her. The show has never been as good after Ragnar ditched Lagertha for that spoiled brat who waltzes into Kattegat with a gigantic belly and embarasses Lagertha in her own home. I'm not letting Ragnar off the hook but I like him and have never liked her.
You had better believe I'm not kidding. I didn't like Aslaug in the beginning, but she has grown as a character. Lagertha has not. She made a choice to leave Kattegat instead of accepting that since she could no longer produce a child that lived she would have either had to accept a second wife (and as I said Lagertha would probably have maintained favored status as the mother of the eldest son and putative heir.) or refusing that, have been set aside in favor of a wife who could produce more sons. She made her choice, has contributed nothing to the safety and growth of Kattegat, and doesn't deserve to be its queen. I
hope Lagertha is soundly slapped down. All she does is fight in battles where she really doesn't accomplish much, and sleep around. All she has is attitude and an overinflated sense of her importance. She is not queen material.
Aslaug deserves to rule Kattegat as its queen. She had held it and fostered its growth, saved her lame son from being exposed to die and nurtured him, raised all four sons by herself, and in spite of Ragnar's neglect and mistreatment of her and neglect of the boys has not turned them against their father. She also has the dignity and bearing of a queen.
Go Aslaug!!!
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
You had better believe I'm not kidding. I didn't like Aslaug in the beginning, but she has grown as a character. Lagertha has not. She made a choice to leave Kattegat instead of accepting that since she could no longer produce a child that lived she would have either had to accept a second wife (and as I said Lagertha would probably have maintained favored status as the mother of the eldest son and putative heir.) or refusing that, have been set aside in favor of a wife who could produce more sons. She made her choice, has contributed nothing to the safety and growth of Kattegat, and doesn't deserve to be its queen. I๎ง
hope Lagertha is soundly slapped down. All she does is fight in battles where she really doesn't accomplish much, and sleep around. All she has is attitude and an overinflated sense of her importance. She is not queen material.
Aslaug deserves to rule Kattegat as its queen. She had held it and fostered its growth, saved her lame son from being exposed to die and nurtured him, raised all four sons by herself, and in spite of Ragnar's neglect and mistreatment of her and neglect of the boys has not turned them against their father. She also has the dignity and bearing of a queen.
Go Aslaug!!!
Well said.
shareI'm waiting for Lagertha to kill Aslaug after she threatened her at the ceremony.
If it's all the same to you, I'll have that drink now.-Loki (Marvel's Avengers)
Did she threaten her at the ceremony???
Wasn't it BEFORE the ceremony ...
when LAGERTHA SUGGESTS that BOTH of them OFFICIATE at it ...
that THE BROOD MARE gets COCKY with her and tells her she's FOGETTING that SHE'S the QUEEN.
So then LAGERTHA tells her AT the CEREMONY for her SON's VOYAGE
(which is also the reason why she wanted to OFFICIATE at it)
that she hasn't forgotten ANYTHING
or about how she stole her husband and her WORLD away from her???
Guess THE BROOD MARE also assumes she can be RUDE to LAGERTHA now that her 4 SONS are grown up???
Because she also thinks LAGERTHA won't be able to do anything about her RUDENESS to her with them to protect her???
Also looks like someone gets shot in the back with an ARROW next week.
Could it be SIGURD or UBBE???
Both of them???
Definitely looks like another SHOWDOWN is coming again in KATTEGAT with Ragnar and BJORN away at sea.
Was it UNREASONABLE for LAGERTHA to want to have a PART in the SACRIFICE being made on behalf of her OWN SON'S VOYAGE???
BJORN isn't the SON of THE BROOD MARE.
And she also didn't even INVITE LAGERTHA to the CEREMONY for her SON.
And then when LAGERTHA makes a simple suggestion, she also gets RUDE with her and INSISTS ONLY she can HOST the SEND OFF for BJORN???
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GO LAGERTHA!!!
KICK her OUT of KATTEGAT!!!
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The things is, they can't do what you want. They have to do it how it happened.
shareNo, they don't. The series is chock-full of historical inaccuracies.
shareGo, Aslaug!!! Kick Lagertha's sorry battered butt out of Kattegat. She has done nothing for the earldom, thinks she is more important than she is, and is not worthy to be queen. Aslaug has given Ragnar sons and has taken care of them, never turning them against their father, even the one who would have been left to die, preserved Kattegat during Ragnar's frequent absences, and has grown the settlement into a trading destination. Aslaug has earned her place. Lagertha has earned nothing.
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
If Aslaug rips the heart out of teflon Lagertha I will scream out of joy.
I don't know what 's in store really, but Auslag is an historical character, and Lagertha isn't: I would bet on Auslag because I simply think Michael Hirst at times cook it by the book and use fronts to cause the audience shocking moments as good as he can, while desperately trying to fix all the shaite brought in by his fantasies.
I might be wrong, we will see, but I have a feeling Lagertha's attack will fail. Auslug has a lot of hate on this board, but I find her a compelling character.
shareI have a feeling Lagertha's attack will fail
Ubbe will go to England as well. I wondered how it would be shipped in Hirsts fantasy saga.
He will find reason to avenge his father, and although in Hirsts depiction Ubbe has been portrayed as the most reflecting and stable of the brothers; In main lore he was pretty much the mad man and the most effective of them all.
As the OLDEST of the 4 BOYS it makes sense that he'd be the most MATURE.
FIRST BORNS are often that way.
NEW PARENTS spend more time with them establishing their SUPER EGO, and then lighten up or are bit more relaxed about discipline when the rest of the kids come along.
As a result FIRST BORNS also tend to be more responsible than their younger siblings.
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He's oldest of the three by Auslag I believe. Oldest of the four is Bjรถrn by Lagertha.
First-born's can be a little bit over-protective and staunch in attitude, I've heard though. ;)
The BROOD MARE has 4 SONS:
UBBE
HVITSERK
SIGURD
IVAR
Aslaug is far from a brood mare. She is a mother who produced four sons including one lame whom she not only saved going against custom, but nurtured. She RAISED her sons without turning them against a frequently absent father who was also neglectful to the sons and her, held the earldom, and grew it into a thriving commercial center.
Aslaug is a multi-faceted woman, unlike Lagertha who has only two strings to her bow: she fights, inflating her importance, and sleeps around: She is a bore.
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
You're not going to convince xxpo of anything. She is obsessed with only calling her a broodmare, been doing it for years in her rants. I have a feeling she's that weird woman in the office who likes to call all mothers brood mares thinking it makes her clever, when it just makes her look desperate.
shareWhat you say about a commenter who posts such flamboyant claptrap is probably true.
There is none so blind as those who will not see.
The only use Lagertha had was to bear children; she would have been supplanted in any case because one son was not enough in a time when life was more uncertain than it is now. Rather than accept the reality of her situation, and a second wife, (she would probably have had higher status as the mother of the eldest son), she chose to leave Kattegat.
It could be said that she was an unsuccessful BROOD MARE. She has done nothing worthy of note that was of any benefit to Kattegat aside from the one son. The credit for acting as ruler, holding the earldom and growing it in Ragnar's absence, as well as raising FOUR SONS alone goes to ASLAUG.
Too bad xxpo doesn't know the meaning of multifaceted.
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
multifaceted - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/multifaceted
Multifaceted means having many aspects or sides. Diamonds are usually cut to be multifaceted, that is, with many angled flat surfaces
There is none so blind as those who will not see.
Even Ragnar gave her credit in the last episode for much of this.
Don't even both with 90% of xxpo's rants any,ore. Most here don't. She even responds to her own posts like she said having a conversation with herself because most will not. Seriously, go look at the main board, she cannot get a response to replies to herself.
I just put xxpo on ignore. Her posts are too exhausting to read.
I didn't like Aslaug in the beginning, either, but she has grown as a character. Lagertha hasn't.
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.
She is obsessed with only calling her a broodmare
CORRECTIONS:
ATHELSTAN was a MULTI FACETED CHARACTER.
This woman is a ONE TRICK PONY.
We've all seen her kind of SEDUCTIVE "GOLD DIGGING ACT" on display before MANY MANY TIMES.
And any ALLEY CAT can also do what she did, and they can also produce 4 OFFSPRING in just 2 MONTHS time.
So bragging about the 4 BRATS that she's SPAWNED and has expelled from her WORTHLESS WOMB is also NO BIG DEAL.
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And LOTS of CHRISTIANS who will be MURDERED by the MONSTER she's produced will also not be GRATEFUL to her that she SAVED his life.
Because he'll also KILL THEM the same way as he probably also did HIS NIECE LITTLE SIGGY.
And he'll probably also MURDER the other NEW BORN SON of BJORN as well.
RAGNAR also NEVER NEGLECTS these boys.
Each time we see him he was PLAYING with them, except for IVAR who THE BROOD MARE refused to let have a relationship with him.
IVAR also points that out to his SMOTHER MOTHER when he tells her to STOP trying to SMOTHER HIM.
As for LAGERTHA, we'll soon enough see how much of a BORE she is when she CONFRONTS this HOMEWRECKER who STOLE her HUSBAND and WORLD away from her.
PLEASE also NOTE this:
THE BROOD MARE INSULTED ATHELSTAN
WHEN she said this to RAGNAR:
WHY SHOULD YOU CARE HE WAS JUST A CHRISTAIN.
At which time RAGNAR LOST CONTROL of himself and SLAPS her DOWN to the GROUND.
SO ...
IF ATHELSTAN ...
a character many of us have LOVED and ADMIRED on this SHOW is
ONLY A CHRISTIAIN
to the BROOD MARE
WHY can't she also only be a BROOD MARE to those who DO CARE about ATHELSTAN????
It's OK for her to INSULT ATHELSTAN but NOT OK for others to INSULT HER???
Is that it???
An "it's OK for her TO DO AS SHE DOES BUT then IT'S NOT OK for anyone else to DO AS SHE DOES" PHILOSOPHY is NEVER OK.
IF ATHELSTAN is ONLY a CHRISTAIN.
THEN she's ONLY a BROOD MARE.
THE SWORD of INSULT she USED CAN SWING BOTH WAYS.
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Ill confess I started to like her later rather than when she first appeared in Vikings. Aslaug has grown into interesting character who isn't one dimensional. Ragnar tried to sneak Ivar off to kill him. She saved his life, raised and loved him. Although she is protective of him ( i think thats natural) in my opinion she raised him to be pretty independent. She kept everything together in Kattegat like keeping it prosperous and made it grow while raising sons on her own. That to me is a leader and ruler. Ragnar himself gave her credit for being great mother who never turned her sons against their dad who abandoned them. I hope she isn't killed off.
shareCORRECTIONS:
IVAR is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of how SHE REJECTS the TRADITIONS of her CULTURE when it comes to dealing with DEFORMED children who they feel have no chance for survival.
So instead of EMBRACE a MERCY KILLING, she turns her back on that TRADITION, and thus puts IVAR though LOTS of PAIN and SUFFERING until HARBARD shows up.
RAGNAR and the other 3 boys also SUFFERED as well, because NONE of them were getting any SLEEP with IVAR CRYING all the time in PAIN.
So it's also INTERESTING how she CLINGS to the ways of her CULTURE, yet REJECTS it at the SAME TIME when it comes to a situation that INVOLVES HER.
But before the birth of IVAR, if another WOMAN had come to her with an infant like IVAR, she wouldn't have thought twice about telling the woman to leave it in the woods.
PITY is NOT LOVE.
IVAR also points that out to her when she still tries to SMOTHER HIM with her PITY by insisting he NOT go with his FATHER to ENGLAND.
Then IVAR also tells her he PREFERS ONE DAY of being a MAN with RAGNAR to spending a LIFETIME with her PITY for him.
THE BROOD MARE was your typical CODEPENDENT.
She was a CONTROL FREAK who refused to let RAGNAR have a relationship with IVAR.
She also had NOTHING to do with KATTEGAT becoming a TRADE CENTER.
THE TREASURE RAGNAR brings back from PARIS did that.
Without that TREASURE no one would GIVE a HOOT about the place.
They come there to TRADE the GOODS they have for that PARIS LOOT.
It's the same as if you WIN a MULTI MILLION DOLLAR LOTTERY.
Then you'll also be BOMBARDED with phone calls and with other means of communication asking for a part of the MONEY that you've won.
Once you are RICH, it's a NATURAL PROCESS that ENSUES, one that has NOTHING to do with anyone needing to do anything to make it happen.
The BROOD MARE also didn't RAISE her SONS. SIGGY did that for her, and she also DIED saving their lives because THE BROOD MARE was too busy having SEX in the FISH HUT with her LOVER to give a damn if they DROWNED or not.
Then RAGNAR also takes them to PARIS with him so they'd be SAFE and not be NEGLECTED by her again.
And then LITTLE SIGGY dies from her NEGLECT.
So calling her a GOOD MOTHER is also NOT SO.
And RAGNAR was also being KIND when he said she hadn't turned his sons against him.
Because we've also heard them PLOTTING to OVER THROW HIM and KILL HIM.
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It's always AMUSING to be told one is ON IGNORE.
Because it also doesn't STOP one from MAKING still MORE CORRECTIONS whenever they're called for.
All it does is PREVENT the poster who's LOST the DEBATE and is BEHAVING like a SOUR GRAPE from being able to see the REASONS WHY they've LOST IT.
And it also KEEPS them from being able to see the FURTHER CORRECTIONS that will still be made each time that they say something else WRONG again about the show.
So what happens is they also remain IGNORANT of the MISTAKES that they make whenever they say things about characters in the show that ARE NOT SO.
THE GIST OF IT is this:
On the WHOLE, THE BROOD MARE is just another GOLD DIGGING character like HORIK and BORG.
Because just like them, she also HEARD the STORIES about RAGNAR'S FAME, and how he SAILED WEST and had brought back TREASURE, and she also wanted a SHARE of that TREASURE.
So she MADE PLANS for how to TAKE IT AWAY from him, SET SAIL on that BOAT, and then SHOVES his wife of at least 14 YEARS or more OUT of her way by INSULTING HER for being NOTHING MORE than a FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
But anyone who WATCHES and PAYS ATTENTION to this show also KNOWS LAGERTHA also FIGHTS and EARNS her SHARE of the TREASURE they get on RAIDS,
and KNOWS she doesn't EARN IT by laying on her back and spreading open her legs the way the HOMEWRECKING BROOD MARE did ...
back when she STOLE Ragnar away from LAGERTHA ...
by wearing that SEE THROUGH FISH NET to show off her NAKED BODY when she first meets him.
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Didn't aslaug outlive Ragnar in the history books?
it is uncertain whether Ragnar himself existed
According to Davidson, writing in 1979, "certain scholars in recent years have come to accept at least part of Ragnar's story as based on historical fact".[4] Katherine Holman, on the other hand, concludes that "although his sons are historical figures, there is no evidence that Ragnar himself ever lived
THE GIST OF IT is this:
On the WHOLE, THE BROOD MARE is just another GOLD DIGGING character like HORIK and BORG.
Because just like them, she also HEARD the STORIES about RAGNAR'S FAME, and how he SAILED WEST and had brought back TREASURE, and she also wanted a SHARE of that TREASURE.
So she MADE PLANS for how to TAKE IT AWAY from him, SET SAIL on that BOAT, and then SHOVES his wife of at least 14 YEARS or more OUT of her way by INSULTING HER for being NOTHING MORE than a FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
But anyone who WATCHES and PAYS ATTENTION to this show also KNOWS LAGERTHA also FIGHTS and EARNS her SHARE of the TREASURE they get on RAIDS,
and KNOWS she doesn't EARN IT by laying on her back and spreading open her legs the way the HOMEWRECKING BROOD MARE did ...
back when she STOLE Ragnar away from LAGERTHA ...
by wearing that SEE THROUGH FISH NET to show off her NAKED BODY when she first meets him.
Didn't aslaug outlive Ragnar in the history books? They made her such a mystical creature with famous parents in the beginning. I think it's a shame they didn't give her more to do. I read she made Ragnar a magical shirt that saved him the first time in the snake pit. Pity they didn't you with that plot line. Lagertha is over hyped and I bet she will get the lions share of the history
shareWell as a citizen of Kattegat village, I have been working on the show all summer right up to last week, And I have been around the Village a lot this season. I can confirm that Its a great show, I love working on it and don't want to Loose My Job But Its going to be epic this season, You will love the things that are going to happen in the world of Vikings ๐You didn't really expect Me to ruin it did You ??
shareNo, but you chose a very interesting way to make us look.๎
I could be a morning person if morning happened at noon.