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Terrible show, absolutely no diversity


This show is the epitome of white privilege with a total white savior complex. There's next to no persons of color with the exceptions of the Muslims who are massacred and the Asian woman who Ragnar enslaves for a short time. It's 2017 and the Vikings went all over the world but we can't be bothered to have hardly a shred of diversity? And of course they make Lagertha bisexual. She's clearly a lesbian or at least non-binary but they have to make sure we get all the straight cis men glued to the televisions while she makes out with her girlfriend before coming onto Ragnar again. This show is sickening and is a clear example of a regressive mindset in television and in our patriarchal culture.

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The last thing anybody wants to see is a black Viking.

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U said it.

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if you would shutup they would probably make a shaka zulu history show at some point! there werent any [Nword] vikings. only folks who jumped on cows, circumcized themselves at age 13 and threw spears at each other.

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They already did a great Shaka series 30 years ago.

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The Vikings believed in trolls, so you would fit right in.

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Then don't watch it. And go make your own show.

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better hurry - you haven't got long to get these posts in you know - HURRY HURRY!!!

Next board.. GO GO GO!

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is this post a satire lol.

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Awww, I'm gonna miss the imdb trolls smh... Where will I go to fight with you about new TV shows and movies now????

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😄

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Isn't it likely that Scandinavian culture in the Viking period would have had a dominant Causasian population considering where it was located? On all sides you had European cultures with a fair-skinned genetic inheritance prevailing, eg. Celts, Franks, Saxons, Slavs, etc. It was only through later travel into Asia Minor and the Mediterranean between 800 and 1000 AD that the possibility of intermixing with more diverse ethnic groups occurred, and that is only a relatively short time for exposure to other peoples.

As early as 839, when Swedish emissaries are first known to have visited Byzantium, Scandinavians served as mercenaries in the service of the Byzantine Empire.[36] In the late 10th century, a new unit of the imperial bodyguard formed. Traditionally containing large numbers of Scandinavians, it was known as the Varangian Guard. The word Varangian may have originated in Old Norse, but in Slavic and Greek it could refer either to Scandinavians or Franks. The most eminent Scandinavian to serve in the Varangian Guard was Harald Hardrada, who subsequently established himself as king of Norway (1047–66).

There is archaeological evidence that Vikings reached Baghdad, the centre of the Islamic Empire.[37] The Norse regularly plied the Volga with their trade goods: furs, tusks, seal fat for boat sealant, and slaves. Important trading ports during the period include Birka, Hedeby, Kaupang, Jorvik, Staraya Ladoga, Novgorod, and Kiev.

Generally speaking, the Norwegians expanded to the north and west to places such as Ireland, Scotland, Iceland, and Greenland; the Danes to England and France, settling in the Danelaw (northern/eastern England) and Normandy; and the Swedes to the east, founding Kievan Rus'. Among the Swedish runestones mentioning expeditions overseas, almost half tell of raids and travels to western Europe. According to the Icelandic sagas, many Norwegian Vikings also went to eastern Europe. In the Viking Age, the present day nations of Norway, Sweden and Denmark did not exist, but were largely homogeneous and similar in culture and language, although somewhat distinct geographically.
[Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings ]


In this paper, there are no trends discovered which suggest immigration or ethnic mixing with Middle Eastern or African people in Scandinavia during the Viking period (even though this may have occured in regions where the Vikings settled overseas):

"Viking Ethnicities: A historiographic overview": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings


Further evidence that suggest a tendency towards cultural and genetic homogenity in Scandinavia:

The skin on the skeletons has looked much like it does on most of today’s Danes. Genetic studies have shown that even back then there was a healthy mix of blonds, redheads and dark-haired people, just like today.

There were, however, more blond Vikings in northern Scandinavia in the area around Stockholm, Sweden, while there were more redheads in western Scandinavia, which Denmark belongs to.

But not everyone in Viking society was of Scandinavian descent:

”There was a mixture even back then because other cultures came to Denmark,” says Harvig.
[Spurce: http://sciencenordic.com/what-vikings-really-looked ]


Knut Kjeldstadli of the University of Oslo has led a group a researchers who have studied Norway’s immigration history from the Viking Age up to the present. He says the tracks left by immigrants and visitors traverse the entire period.

“Irish slaves came in the Viking Age. And around the year 1000 another import came that was to have a huge impact on Norwegian culture: Christianity," says the history professor.

The kings brought along specialists in Christianising people. These were priests and monks from Germany and England. Even the Anglo-Saxon bishop and advisor – who canonised Olaf Haraldsson, was a Brit.

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Researchers don’t know how many immigrants came to Norway during the Viking period and medieval times.

“We shouldn’t exaggerate the volume of immigration. It was doubtfully more than one percent of the population, but their impact is greater than their number,” says Kjeldstadli.

Lots of those who came were specialists and members of the elite. They had a significant influence on society and brought knowledge to the country which could only come through immigration.

Some immigrants played a local and regional role, such as the Kven people in Troms and Finnmark Counties in the north, and the Swedes in Østfold County.

A steady stream of lesser-skilled Swedes came to Norway from the 1700s along with the specialists that continued to arrive. They were mainly job-seekers from the lower classes who settled and became Norwegians. Even while Norwegians were emigrating to America, thousands of poor Swedes were immigrating to Norway.


So hardly a white racist agenda if the evidence suggests a culture of European peoples.

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This is WAY too long and plodding to read.

"PS I'm sorry this letter was so long. I didn't have very much time."
- Mark Twain

PPS You're right: It's not a racist program. When you believe in yourself, that's all that you need to say.

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Lolololololol
Oh my goodness...couldnt read it all either
Guy might be a genius but fuck that wall of words!

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Not a genius; a self-impressed blowhard.

I've written and published a history book. I've published four books, and hundreds of newspaper and magazine articles. The composition must fit the environment. Only an asshole would put a post THAT LONG on an internet message board.

PS Now that I've skimmed through the whole miasma of the post, I can tell you that he didn't write the text AT ALL. The [parenthetical] footnote references are a certain giveaway that el asshole-o copied and pasted the text from a scholarly work.

True Norsemen don't do that. We pillage. We don't plagiarize. Fuck diversity. People want to be with others who are like ourselves. That's human nature.

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As always you are correct

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Can you please recommend some books that you have published?

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I guess not...

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This was wayyyyyyy too much work in response to a troll post. And... too much work to read, which I didn't.

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