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Experienced hikers -- No hat, no eye protection?


The fact that Cheryl spent the entire hike with a bare head (except her hoodie when it rained) seems like a glaring mistake. She was a newbie to hiking, so I kind of expected that she would have been advised by one of the other hikers after she made it to the first stop, but nobody commented on it. Not to mention no shades for her eyes, this is difficult for me, a non-hiker, to believe is normal. She should have been burnt to a crisp by the sun and sun-blinded by the end of the first 3 days.

So is it ever normal for hikers to be completely bare headed and wear no eye protection?

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As a hiker who once caught a branch to the eye while by myself in the woods...that branch to the face scene made me wince. If that actually happened like that she is VERY lucky.

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With a brimmed hat and shades, you've lost your movie star.


Perhaps the OP just wants to reach out for some sense of community.

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What jellyree said.

Why cast the lovely Reese Witherspoon if you’re going to plonk a dowdy hiking hat and shades on her and make her face all greasy with sunscreen? Also, Cheryl Strayed was not an experienced hiker (packed too much gear, wore wrong boot size) so perhaps she forgot to protect her head too.

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Good answer ! I gave my own answers before I read the thread, but yes, this makes perfect sense.

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No hat, no eye protection?
Exactly, that is very unrealistic!!!
Not sure why the movie makes missed that.....

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You don't see her putting sunscreen on but that doesn't mean she didn't. Personally, I could not have gone without sunglasses but we don't know for a fact that the movie makers missed that fact, maybe the real Cheryl Strayed actually did do the hike without a hat or sunglasses.

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I don't know about sunglasses, but the book does mention her hat. For the movie, showing the actress' face seems more important that these details.

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I'm sure that's it, like in war movies and medieval movies where people fight with swords... the heroes are always going into combat with no helmets. Because being able to see their faces is MUCH more important than giving them a realist chance of surviving a battle!

In reality, the light in the High Sierras is much brighter and has more dangerous ultraviolet radiation than at sea level, hats, sunglasses, and sunblock are NOT optional up in the mountains.

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Especially on current police dramas, the Stars might be wearing vests but no bullet-proof helmets, while all the anonymous SWAT people do. Not to mention there is always some slender, attractive young woman who is supposed to be some bad-ass cop capable of taking down all the mean perps. I like the eye-candy, but at some point it's just plain silly.

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Yeah, that sort of thing is all over films and TV, and IMHO it's obvious and annoying. I wish the cinematographers of the world would find a way to photograph people who are wearing hats, helmets, or sunglasses, when it's appropriate for the characters in question to wear hats, helmets, or sunglasses.


I'm sure there are actors who are up to the challenge of making a character who are wearing hats, helmets, or sunglasses expressive, but in this case we're talking about Reese Witherspoon. So there's that.

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Yes, that would be very unusual. Especially since she hiked through the Mojave Desert. A hat and sunglasses would be pretty much required.

Another rookie mistake she made is buying new equipment and packing it without making sure that it works and learning how to use it. Or figuring out the weight of her pack beforehand. There's a reason why companies like REI and MEC list the weight of every single item they sell. It was established pretty quickly that she was woefully unprepared.

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Heck, your legs can burn if you are wearing shorts on long summer hikes.

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I think that is the point of a lot of these hiker movies. People get out there thinking all you need for a hike is working legs.

They did have a thing where get got blisters didn't they? I don't remember this movie too well other than that I liked it.

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The fact that Cheryl spent the entire hike with a bare head (except her hoodie when it rained) seems like a glaring mistake.

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She was a newbie to hiking, so I kind of expected that she would have been advised by one of the other hikers after she made it to the first stop

why?

Not to mention no shades for her eyes, this is difficult for me, a non-hiker, to believe is normal

it's very normal

She should have been burnt to a crisp by the sun and sun-blinded by the end of the first 3 days.

you admit to being a non hiker, so are you just making things up as you go?

So is it ever normal for hikers to be completely bare headed and wear no eye protection?

ABSOLUTELY. why didn't you just start with this, and only this?

i live in las vegas, aka a desert, and i lead 3-4 hikes/scrambles a week in red rocks, the mt charleston area, as well as the lake mead area, and i NEVER wear a hat or glasses. most people don't. why? because you get tired of having to take your glasses off every couple of minutes to wipe the sweat from your eyes. as for wearing a hat, most people don't wear them. as to why, i have no idea other than they probably just don't like wearing hats - i know i don't.

as to the notion that she would have been sun-blinded in three days? where do you come up with this crap? the bulk of human existence has been spent without sun glasses, and they've managed to not go blind in 3 decades, let alone 3 days.

my online writing style is one of speed and apathy, NOT ignorance

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I've lived in Northern California for 50 years and have done a fair amount of hiking and camping along the coastline and in the Sierras. I'm very light skinned and definitely sunburn easily. Regardless of the fact that this film may have wanted to show off its star's face, I immediately thought it was nuts to show her hiking all day, whether in the desert or mountains, without at least a hat as well as sunglasses (they could have been hanging on a cord around her neck for most of the shots, if they wanted to show her
face). The lack of these important 'details' was pretty glaring and somewhat irritating.

I didn't want to denigrate Cheryl for that omission as I have to assume she actually did have those items. But, for ANYONE hiking the desert as well as being in the sun, day after day, not having a hat and sunglasses is totally ridiculous. It takes very little reflection off snow to potentially damage your eyes/corneas and a 50+ UV protection hat should be nearly as important as water. Beside protecting her scalp and face, it can significantly decrease the chance of heat stroke.

If she had puchased the bulk of her equipment at REI (or any other competent outdoor sports retailer), they most definitely would have strongly recommended she purchase both a protective hat as well as sunglasses. So, we'll just have to assume the director et al overlooked these items as critical to her equipment.

As to her having had zero experience doing any backpacking, it was nuts for her to fail to fully familiarize herself with ALL her equipment and make sure everything was in workimg order prior to heading out on a 1,000 mile solo hike. Finding out you don't have the right fuel for your stove is really crazy. I mean, really . . . she was potentially putting her life at risk here.

Well, it's Hollywood. And, not having read Cheryl's book, it's hard to know how she actually prepared for this grueling trek. I actually never felt she was having a very challenging time on her journey. Also, if it had been me, I would have at least had Mace as protection from aggressive men I might meet along the way, such as the hunters. "Forwarned is forearmed!"

Nonetheless, I'm very glad she made the entire trek, safe and sound! And, though I'm not sure she necessarily 'learned' that much on this journey, I do believe she was able to get in touch with some deep feelings about her relationship with her sweet, positive Mom and uncover/express her real grief and sadness at losing her to Cancer.

The scene at the hospital, where she has to instantly deal with her Mom's death, hit me really hard. I lost my sister (only 52) three and a half years ago to Cancer and I haven't gotten over it at all. I was alone with her as she died and had to snap into action to immediately call family members and deal with all the arrangements. I've largely kept my feelings about her death to myself, but her loss left a big hole in my heart and soul. I sorely miss her everyday. Life can be so unfair but we go on the best we can . . . This film did help me get back in touch with that moment and my tremendous sadness at losing someone so terribly important to me. I deeply appreciate that gift. . . .

Bon Voyage, to my dear, sweet Peggy and to Cheryl's Mom!

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When my Mom passed away it was sad but I tried to be philosophical about it. It wasn't until later I realized neither I nor my Father did anything to prepare for the funeral. No money was spent. My Dad was not mentally competent enough to arrange things, and I was just floating through the whole experience. I think my Uncle, my Mom's brother, must have stepped up. So strange to think about this now so long after the fact. I was old enough to have been able to handle things, but nothing prepared me for it.

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Great post.

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It's one thing to go on a (probably short?) outing and quite another one to be for weeks outdoors without end or protection. While I'm also no big fan of sunglasses and just wear them if it really feels necessary, it would seem rather odd to not bring any on such a trip. Even more so a hat or headscarf, which is undoubtedly one of the (very light) essentials of hiking more than a few hours in a place with a decent amount of solar irradiation. Even more since we also don't see her using any other form of sun protection, nor does in the "inventory" in the first camp a huge bottle of sunscreen pop up.

So yes, that is definitely one of the irritating flaws of this movie. I don't know what kind of hikes you are doing, but it's definitely not normal to head out this unprotected to a overland hike like portrayed in this movie. Doing that would be at least as stupid as many of the other silly mistakes she made. Except that for most others at least some consequences were shown, e.g. the weight, the shoes. The sun however seemed to be no issue at all, which is rather absurd for such a pale "white bread" in the middle of the desert. I'm of the same skin type as she is and I know therefore very well how you'd crisp up in a few hours on the first day.

Long story short: As a fairly experienced hiker, a lot of the hiking/outdoor experience shown in this movie felt very unnatural and unrealistic and definitely took me out of the story..

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Two things must be considered:

1. Super Ultra Light Backpackers, the people who are probably the most experienced and have put the most thought into hiking and gear, don't carry hats, sunglasses, or wear sunscreen. Now of course I am generalizing because everybody has their own system and needs, but generally they would see all three of those things as too heavy and not optimal for the diverse climate. A hat for warmth certainly, but a hat for sun protection no way. Bedouins in Arabia don't wear hats either. It's actually popular among Super Ultra Light guys to carry an umbrella. It provides shade from heat without overheating your head like a hat, and it also provides shelter for you and your pack when it rains.

2. This is a movie and you don't hide your star behind sunglasses and hats. While I found the film to be pretty damn accurate in its depiction of the sport, its gear, the people, and the terrain, I did notice a few wrong choices. For instance she carries a tent that is way larger than her needs, but I can tell the filmmakers made this choice because (1) one person tents look weird and don't visually cue the audience that "camping" is happening and (2) they wanted to do some cool effects while she stares at the ceiling of the tent. I'm willing to excuse choices that are made in service of the visual aspect of the story telling.

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I'm not sure I'm buying this (above post) a hat can shade your eyes from the sun and keep your head warm and dry. I'm in the Northeast so cold is more of an issue than sunburn or overheating, however a small tube of sun screen doesn't take much room in a pack and can save you some serious discomfort or worse.

The director of this film didn't pay much attention to the technical side of backpacking, it was silly at best, and that took me completely out of this film, but such is Hollywood.

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> Bedouins in Arabia don't wear hats either.

You sure about that? I think they were those robes and sheets don't they?

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No one who participates in your leadership wears glasses? Do they have to take them off every couple minutes? I've worn glasses all my life (out of the womb, yes) and I deal with it. Hat's can make your head sweatier, yes, but if you are facing South or West late in the day, your face is going to burn, especially if you are sweating and the Sun is refracting through the droplets. It's when you know the exposure is extreme is when you should be doing things about it. Spending a day in the sun likely won't change your life, but continued exposure should be avoided.

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I hope your melanoma is curable when you get it.

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This is a good observation. I'm nobody's idea of a hard-core hiker, but when I know I'm going to be exposed to sun for extended periods, I try to be prepared. Not a fan of baseball caps, but I usually have one handy, plus sunscreen. Some people don't like sunglasses. I wear prescription sunnies when it fits where I'm at, so yes, anyone doing an extended hike should know or be advised to have some face protection. That said, this is Reese and a major movie we are talking about, and they might not want to be bothered with some of the mechanical details of hiking. I need to see this to see where the dramatic tension comes from.

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The person who actually took the hike, that Reese is portraying, was massively unprepared. That's part of the story.

Too many hikers are fast to slam this film for not being realistic but that was the reality of this hike, an unprepared person struggling with things they didn't understand both on the trail and in their own life.

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What's good for a hat in the hot sun is those safari hats. They are held off your skin so they do not make your head get hot, and they have ventilation holes in them and are very lightweight. I don't think baseball caps are that great, but they do keep the sun out of your eyes.

I think people want to have a genuine experience and think they will be OK, but I've read a few books about people making these hikes and there are some pretty painful mistakes, and sometimes fatal mistakes you can make. Hydration is super-important. Shoes and the right kind of socks, and making sure your feet do not sweat and get wet.

I liked this movie.

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I was bothered by Reese's lack of sunglasses the entire movie. I just kept saying, "Girlfriend's gonna have cataracts!"

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