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Sign this waiver people but we'll say it's undercover

posted 12 years ago by Hedgehopper30
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Jesus. I mean is there anyone out there who still believe reality tv is real or you can shoot people without them signing a waiver first. All these shows have SOME "hidden" bs cameras but 95% of them are big rotating ones that can be clearly seen in shots and by and staffer walking in. Everyone knows and fooling nobody

Girls, guys we're shootong in 5 seconds. Now HAM it up for the cameras...remember you're getting paid.......and action. LOL!

Plus this host guy is a joke.

[–] StevenSmithNYC 12 years ago

They have censored people's faces who don't sign a release

[–] GraceFromSoCal 12 years ago

They have censored people's faces who don't sign a release

That's what I thought, too--back when I thought this show was for real. But it's not, it's fake. So those people whose faces are obscured are probably just actors deliberately put there to pretend to be 'real' people who don't want to be filmed.

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[–] SquirrelBot3000 12 years ago

No, sorry, reality shows are obligated to notify all those on film of production. They then can choose to opt out of being filmed or blurred out if they can't be edited out.

It's standard practice in reality TV. There's no conspiracy--it's simply there to avoid litigation from people who don't want to be identified.

[–] GraceFromSoCal 12 years ago

Sorry, SquirrelBot, but you're either a shill for the show/network or you're really gullible/naive! If your bullsh!t detector doesn't go off when watching this show, I don't know what to say. *shrug* It's among the most fake 'reality' shows I've ever seen, with only Operation Repo outdoing it.

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[–] SquirrelBot3000 12 years ago

Grace, I'm assuming from your nickname you're actually living in Southern California. If that's true, and you live anywhere near Los Angeles county, you've had your fair share of running into productions on streets or malls or even in residential areas. And what do those productions do?
They put out signs notifying the public they're filming. If you don't want to be filmed, you walk around or avoid the area altogether. If you ARE filmed, then a production coordinator comes out and asks you to sign a waiver stating you're good with appearing on film. They usually take your picture with a number in front of you to catalog who you are in their record books.

This is not rocket science. Reality shows don't have big budgets to go stocking restaurants with actors that act like day players with their faces obscured. Why would they do that, when you can get the eating public for FREE to sit down and fill a seat they already intended to in the first place?
Nor are there black-suited agents listening in on your conversations and spying on you from satellites about what you're watching on TV. IT'S STANDARD INDUSTRY PRACTICE TO OBSCURE FACES OF THOSE NOT WISHING TO APPEAR ON FILM.
(professional note: actors LOVE attention--they don't like their faces removed from anything).

So either I'm right with my simple, rational, and correct explanation (which incidentally shows have been blurring out shirt logos, faces, addresses, license plates and various other copyrighted/private information for decades on television), or the show has cooked up an entire conspiracy to fool little old you and you alone about an over-the-top undercover restaurant show that no one will remember five years from now.

If you believe the latter, come on by--I can whip up a tin foil hat for you in no time flat.

[–] GraceFromSoCal 12 years ago

Like I said, Squirrel, you're either a shill for the show/network or extremely gullible/naive. Yes, I live in LA county--grew up here, with friends whose parents WORKED in the industry--and see those yellow filming signs every time I go out. I've stumbled onto production sites, once while strolling on Santa Monica Pier, where it was exactly as you described--signs were up saying if you proceed past this point you're granting the production the right to use your image without compensation, blah blah blah. THAT is not what I'm talking about.

This show is *FAKE*. Hence they use ACTORS to PRETEND to be employees/customers who don't want their faces filmed. And, no, I am by no means the ONLY person on earth who's recognized that this show is fake--read the threads, for heaven's sake. Do a Google search.

So there's no point explaining to me how legitimate filming works when we're talking about a fake 'reality' show. This show is the worst piece of fake reality since Operation Repo.

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[–] SquirrelBot3000 12 years ago

So you agree with me that shows film people who were not expecting to be filmed or can't avoid being filmed and don't allow their faces to be shown; I present industry facts that you yourself confirm, and you keep toting this drivel that I'm "gullible/naive", or some show/network shill.

My dear, I only WISH I was employed by this network--I'd never run out of jobs.
But since you seem to insist you know more about me than myself, I've been on medical disability for the better part of two years now. And although yes I do work IN the industry, it wasn't ever for this network. I will say however I have been put on film when I wasn't expected to and had to go through the procedure I described earlier and been involved in productions that implement the same.
Again,
INDUSTRY.
STANDARD.
OPERATING.
PROCEDURE.

I don't deny there is plenty about this show that is exaggerated for the sake of grandstanding, what with the manipulative music, rapid jump cuts and especially the host (after all, nobody wants to watch a dull security investigator), but to suggest this closed-circuit TV spy operation has the money to pack actors into busy restaurants that don't want to be seen on television is both laughable and ludicrous. The public at large attending a restaurant is not unheard of. To borrow a phrase, why buy the cow (the actors) when you can get the milk for free (the eating public)?

The show is a circus, designed to be sensational and catch extreme situations in the act. It's a peep show for foodies.

But you keep believing what you want. Personally I think the show is incredibly flawed in that they spend 50 minutes spying, two minutes talking to the staff on being busted and four minutes showing how the place cleaned up its act. At least with Restaurant Impossible 90% is spent fixing the place and its staff.

So stop worrying your pretty little SoCal head. The show won't last long anyways. If you don't like the show, there's this thing man invented called a "television remote control". It allows you the power to magically make shows you dislike go away when you're watching them--two in fact: one allows you to change the channel to something else, and the other is a power button to turn it off.
Just like I'm doing with this conversation.

[–] GraceFromSoCal 12 years ago

See ya!

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[–] cable232 12 years ago

Operation repo does actually say it's 'based' on real events in the intro.. The camera arguments are misleading though..

[–] mvassa71 12 years ago

Yep, total crock. When the son "caught" the waiter "stealing", the way he confronted him was sooo phoney...this show is total bullshyt

[–] SquirrelBot3000 12 years ago

Sorry, what's phony about confronting a thief? He did it professionally, out of the line of sight of the customers. He asked him for his wallet based on what he saw through the door, brought the guy back, gave him a chance to explain, he didn't come clean; got asked for his waiter's wallet, denied any money in it--money found inside, "GTFO".

Pretty cut and dry if you ask me. He's lucky the kid didn't call the cops.

[–] oceena 11 years ago

You can definitely tell this show is fake. I had to laugh at the "poker playing manager" episode. When he took the money out of the safe, the camera was directly on the safe in close-up from the side, not from the ceiling.

[–] S12345 11 years ago

This show is *FAKE*. Hence they use ACTORS to PRETEND to be employees/customers who don't want their faces filmed. And, no, I am by no means the ONLY person on earth who's recognized that this show is fake--read the threads, for heaven's sake. Do a Google search.

I agree that the show is obviously fake, but why would they need to hire actors to pretend employees/customers who don't want to be filmed?

They are never short of actual employees that are being filmed, and there's no need to pretend there are extra faceless customers. It'd be a silly waste of money.

The ones with faces blurred out are real employees/customers. Some of the ones on camera are likely actors, especially the ones with ridiculous behavior (nobody behaving like that will agree to have it aired on TV).

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[–] SataiDelen 10 years ago

I mean is there anyone out there who still believe reality tv is real or you can shoot people without them signing a waiver first.

Actually, you can film without consent, you just can't air the people recognizably in the film without consent. I'm not saying this show isn't fake, but I am saying that if they wanted to, they could film first, without anyone's knowledge, then come in and say, "Hey, we just filmed you. We need your consent to air your face, so please sign this." If the people refuse to sign, the film can be released, but only if the person(s)face is blurred so they can't be recognized by the average person (and I have also learned that the people have to be compensated if their face is going to be visible. So this is another reason why some people's faces are blurred out).