Here's what I want to know - Lucy bit and fed from her mother, but did she turn her into a Vampire also, so they can be a mother/daughter vampire combo?
OR did mom die? It seems unlikely Lucy would just kill off her own mother just for a first meal? I think she needs her mother, she takes care of Lucy. Or maybe Lucy keeps mom alive and feeds from her more than once. Sorry I'm not the expert here!
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And how would she know what she has to do to turn her? She may recall what Dracula did to her, but she lacks complete understanding of those things, so it would be incredibly risky to do such a thing to person she loves.
And if she simply became a sociopath who doesn't care anymore about anyone, and is going to kill her own mother simply because she's hungry, then lack of any consistence in this show is amazing. Dracula is not a good guy, but he definitely possesses human feelings. And while in book Lucy could kill children, but in book all vampires were evil sociopaths, including Dracula himself (he didn't love anyone in book, he was just power hungry a-hole).
As for how Lucy would know how to turn someone into a vampire, I don't know but I'm GUESSING it's some innate vampire knowledge.
We don't really know how the other vampires in town Knew that Dracula walked in sunlight? It was a guess that either someone, another vampire told them this info OR the knowledge was inherently psychic and so they just "knew".
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Think about it, Lucy. How did Dracula turn you? He bit you. So, how do you turn others? That's right, Lucy, you bite them.
shareI really doubt she turned her mother. The other vampires on this show are depicted as being a bit more monstrous and carnal than Dracula is. Point is, she really isn't Lucy anymore (a point that's also stressed after her character's change in the book, if I recall).
But if you want to see a vampire's "first feed" that's even more disturbing than killing your own mother, check out the latest episode of syfy's Being Human. That one will get you.
Things are more moderner than before... San Dimas High School football rules!share
Thing is, it doesn't make any sense why Dracula is different then, especially considering that he was never a good person even as a human. Somehow he is capable of feeling love and compassion, but Lucy isn't?
And if it's reference to Lucy from the book, then we can't forget that Dracula in book was different. He didn't love Mina. He was just power hungry, lustful monster. It made sense then why Lucy in book killed children, as indeed vampires there had very little in common with former selves and had no humanity. Like in "Buffy" where vampires were loosing their souls (though even there, Spike didn't initially kill his mother, but turned her into vampire).
So I wonder if writers thought about how it works for vampires here at all, or just put a reference to book without thinking about any consistency and logic in their vampire portrayal at all.
Lucy attacking her Mother was somewhat disturbing. In one thread of old-time, original vampire lore, family members were the main people in danger when someone became a vampire...possibly this was the Greek "Verdoulak" (sp???) but can't recall for sure at the moment.
But in this case, Lucy just seemed too lazy to get out of the house and hunt down a decent victim.
If there is no second season, we've got Lucy's story *really* hanging out there unresolved...if there was a second season, we could get a reprise of Hammer's "lesbian vampire" stories.
If there is no second season, we've got Lucy's story *really* hanging out there unresolved...if there was a second season, we could get a reprise of Hammer's "lesbian vampire" stories.
Ya know, I just got to thinking....aren't people supposed to DIE before they become vampires? Have the rules changed on this?
In the old days, a victim would be drained (often over the course of several attacks); die "mysteriously"; be buried/entombed, then rise from the dead to prey upon the living.
With this Dracula, L seemed to immediately turn right there in her bath, after the attack. No withering away, no death and no burial.
Is this how other modern/recent vampire shows are doing it now?
Not so recent, since IIRC it was depicted this way in Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles. Not sure if it was for the first time or not.
Meanwhile, speaking of recent shows, in True Blood the would-be vampire has to be buried (not necessarily entombed). While in Vampire Diaries they just must die after drinking vampire blood.
Besides, there's really no canon regarding this. In XIX century novels (as in original legends) vampires didn't mind sun, though they were less powerful during day.
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I think Lucy just killed her not much because she had become a vampire but out of repressed anger because after all, her mother showed disgust at the thought of a woman having romantic feelings towards another woman.
shareI agree. Although I think it was maybe more of a bad case of hanger. She was hungry, and mad at her mother. It will be interesting to see if she later regrets that decision.
shareThe Vampires do seem to be rather brutal in this, although Dracula may be different for two reasons:
1) He was never sired, he was created by the order, and is the 1st Vampire, so he's special, different etc.
2) He is an elder (the oldest even), and the status of being an elder is more than in just name, such as that they are stronger than younger vampires, could also bring more emotional maturity say...
but just theories, hopefully we'll find out some more of the story soon.
While this isn't adapting Stoker, it does nod in that direction occasionally. In the novel Lucy's ailing mother dies with Lucy's turning. I'm guessing the same holds true here it seems much too close to anything but a nod. Dramatically, it adds to the tragedy of Lucy's fortunes.
Why? At a guess, on awaking as a vampire her hunger was doing her thinking for her. Survival instinct.
Sorry I'm not the expert here!
Thank-you Simian-Jack
shareWhy? At a guess, on awaking as a vampire her hunger was doing her thinking for her. Survival instinct.
I agree with all of that, which is why "hunger" falls under rationalization to gloss over inconsistency for now. That is, I have no idea if a vampire's nature in this fictional world retains any sense of the humanity they once had, if it meshes or clashes with their vampire nature, or if it's pure sociopathy. If we get a second season, we'll have to see if Lucy's memories play into her new identity. If this happens, then I'm going to rationalize it away as her vampiric nature commanding her actions initially.
Still rationalizing, I wonder of the process of vampirization might make a difference in the amount of humanity retained. Dracula was not turned by another vampire but was so to speak an original through whatever arcane process the order used against him.
But, yes, it does look like lazy writing.
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I must agree. People seem to be looking for hard and fast rules for what vampires can or cannot do. The bottom line is they focus on entertainment value of their stories, vampire lore is taken as a suggestion and subject to change for dramatic effect. There are no set vampire rules that writers are forbidden to break.
shareIt seems unlikely Lucy would just kill off her own mother just for a first meal?