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Is it bad that I... (SPOILER ALERT)


..loved the creepy main character being humiliated and hoped it wouldn't have a 'happy ending' for him? He was an incredibly unlikeable person.

He seemed just as much of an *beep* at the end, quite creepily exercising his 'power' over old people.

This was a very weird film that split off on many tangents, none of which were really satisfactorily resolved. What was the purpose of Miles befriending them? Didn't he edit a site they loved and was also an uber nerd himself?

Quite an entertaining film though!

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I thought most of it was cringe-worthy but funny, and I'm guessing that was their intent. Not liking him is unavoidable. It's almost like I wanted to feel sorry for him, but they show again and again he's an a*hole who never grew up. At least they also show how he got that way. He didn't seem to change much, but getting beat and humiliated let him acknowledge that he's been a childish d*ck. He was able to admit to his only friend about not wanting him to have a girlfriend. And while he was still obviously a control freak game master with the old folks, he could tell that his being a d*ck was turning them off to playing with him. Something he wouldn't see before that drove off however many friends.

I think Miles' character was there to start the fire kinda, even though it was Scott who brought him in. He should've went with the World of Warcraft kid, but the movie would've ended there with Scott continuing to act like a selfish d*ck and all around bad friend. Miles might have been a 'nerd', but they separated him from this group of 'loser nerds'. He was seemingly smarter, funnier, drank beer and had "problems" having too much sex with his girlfriend. He might as well have walked into a group of dorky 14-year-olds.

Scott's attempt to maintain his coolness factor with his fellow dorks in light of this Fonzie-like guy, only led to them seeing him for the d*ck he is. But at the same time we see that Miles is kind of a a*hole himself and really considers them losers when Scott points out he only put their video on his site to make fun of it. Ultimately if it wasn't for Scott's childish logic that Miles was his nemesis, and his failure to beat him, he wouldn't have been able to change, even that tiny bit. In the end I still don't want to be friends with him, but they show there's some hope for the guy. However astronomically small it may be.

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He was clearly a dick and brought a lot of his grief upon himself, but he was shat on by a lot of people (his mother, etc). It was a pretty good balance, and his humiliation at the party was a good climax for his douchebaggery, so I didn't mind he got a happy ending since he paid for being such a creepy bastard.

For what it's worth, there's no real proof that Miles put their video on his site to make fun of it, Scott clearly said it to get the guys back on their side. All Miles did "wrong" was not invited his new nerd friends to his hipster party and scream "Goddamn nerds" after they attacked him. Not entirely unreasonable.

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I've known guys like Miles. He likes geeky things and enjoys hanging out with geeks, but he also likes being cool. He's obviously a bit ashamed of his geeky side and wouldn't have invited them to his "cool" party. Cause he wouldn't want his cool friends to think he was friends with people like that. That's a dick move. I think Scott was right about another thing, guys like that do get a rush out of being a guy in a room full of geeks that think he's cool.

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He was a hipster, too cool to be a nerd.

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Yes. I agree with you. After his friends left him for Wayne because he was such a jerk to them, he would fall into a deep depression, locking himself in his room, crying, not talking to anyone and eventually killing himself in the end all because he didn't accept Wayne's superiority and tried to convince everyone he was better than him, but knowing deep down he was worthless. After this incident, the viewer would know that if he just accepted that Wayne was better than him and let him be the game master, and let his friends(and himself) look up to him that it didn't have to turn out that way. In the end he would ultimately cause his own downfall. That would have made it much better.

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He seemed just as much of an *beep* at the end, quite creepily exercising his 'power' over old people.


I disagree, I think the ending showed that he's actually starting to turn his life around, and make a real effort to get along with people. He's helping his grandmother, instead of mooching off of her. He makes an effort to be involved in her life, even though he doesn't live off of (or with) her anymore. And during the game, he catches himself pulling the old "You have to roll a twenty," line, and then begrudgingly gives the old man a 19 *or* a 20. Yes, it's not much, but he's growing as a person, and I think we're meant to believe he'll continue on that path, slowly raising his Charisma.

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