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Ice powers = Drug addiction?

posted 7 years ago by sul-uddin96
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Here's my take on the somewhat "metaphor" that the ice powers could be representing... it only occurred to me recently after hearing some past stories of people who lost their lives to drug addiction, and how their families dealt with it.

Elsa's ice powers are something that she and her sister, Anna, seem to enjoy as young kids. It was always something they had to keep quiet, so when they're playing around with her ice powers, it's then they feel the most happy. As you would, if you took some form of hallucinogen. However, Elsa zapping Anna's head and her falling unconscious is like Anna having a bad reaction to the drug, so the trolls, by erasing her memory, is like them helping her stay off the drugs.

Meanwhile, during their time apart, Elsa's parents try to make sure she dials down on the drugs, but she cannot help her addiction, and no matter what, her will power just isn't strong enough. The further away Anna stays from Elsa and her addiction, the less she's going to feel influenced.

However, after Elsa's secret addiction is exposed, she then decides to embrace it. Some drugs are known to take away any negative feelings, and her building the castle is the high point of the drugs making her feel good and not worrying about anything anymore. Plus, Elsa begins to feel distant to her own sister, as drugs would make you feel distant to even some of your closest family members, sometimes, you forget your own family's love in favor of the hallucinogen. Not to mention that your addiction can affect other people's lives the same way Elsa's ice powers affect the people in the kingdom.

As we all know, drug addiction can get to a point where the addict's health is at risk, and the only way out seems to be to put them out of their misery. Many see this as the way out of the cursed winter, and nobody else will have to suffer. However, Anna believes that she can help Elsa by calming down her powers, in other words, calming down her doses, and everything remains healthy and back to normal.

Don't kill, just take it easy...

[–] PeterJasonQuill 7 years ago

Nice theory there dude. I bet wormkid999 is crying in fear reading it

You said it yourself pal, we're the guardians of the galaxy!

[–] sul-uddin96 7 years ago

Wormkid999 couldn't tell a good movie if it hit him!

Just saying...

[–] PeterJasonQuill 7 years ago

Yep. He would probably think the new star treks are kiddie because they have humour in them.
He would think anything that has humour and songs and fart jokes (most animated films in a nutshell) and dance offs is kiddie.
Even the good films that contain everything I just listed.

He has the worst taste of movies since woozle_wuzzle

You said it yourself pal, we're the guardians of the galaxy!

[–] Stokes83 7 years ago

I don't know about you but I've never met an 8 and a 5 year old on drugs. Comparing her ice powers to drug use is a bit silly. The lgbt, having a unique aspect that society wants you to repress is the actual metaphor they were looking for.

Her behavior afterwards yeah I think a crackhead would fall under that so that's a fair comparison. She's changed into an abusive person and the moral is to keep an open heart to them.

[–] Thornspike 7 years ago

Interesting.

[–] avortac4 (3430) 2 years ago

"drug addiction can get to a point where the addict's health is at risk, and the only way out seems to be to put them out of their misery. "

You don't know much about drugs, do you?

What do you mean by "CAN" and 'at risk'?

Drugs are inherently UNHEALTHY and taking drugs ALWAYS puts your body's health at risk. Drug addiction is your body ALREADY FUNCTIONING ABNORMALLY, and thus is already in a very unhealthy and dangerous state.

The only way out is to .. what? Kill a drug addict?

No.

You obviously haven't even heard of interventions. Sure, they're not always successful, sometimes people are too weak to do the right thing and stay off of it, people's psyches are weak, and if you have conditioned yourself for perhaps years that the only true happiness comes from a pill or something you inject or inhale, it's hard to just change that conditioning overnight.

We all have cravings of some sort, but we don't have to become the slaves to those cravings. Drug addicts might not have developed this kind of understanding and backbone to be able to deal with it, and if they have for a long time accepted that 'instant gratification' is the only thing they want, they're not going to be able to think in long-term or make any plans for their lives.

A good example of this is the homeless man a clueless 'magician' tried to help. I think it's a famous enough a case that I can mention the names, the homeless drug addict was named Eric, and the 'magician''s name is 'Rahat' (which means 'money' (in plural) in some languages).

Rahat tried to help Eric by giving him money, without investigating or researching Eric's background at all. You can't help a drug addict by providing them things, because they don't care about longevity; they will just instantly consume everything you give them and then want more. They're not going to have the willpower to save for the future or stay off this or that just so they can get on their feet again.

[–] avortac4 (3430) 2 years ago

Rahat gave Eric tens of thousands of dollars, a house (!) where Eric could basically live for free for a year, a job (Eric was a no-show the first day, OF COURSE), and a lot of sympathy, patience, understanding and so on.

Eric started making videos slandering Rahat and talking about how Rahat stole crowdfunding money from Eric (as if Rahat needed to do that, he was rich enough already, and trying to just help this homeless bum), making claims about there being some kind of gas leak problem in the house, so Eric couldn't live there (there were no problems with the house according to Rahat, when he came back to inspect it).

Eric wanted to live in a hotel, drive expensive limousines all the time, everywhere he went. He had 'questionable' "friends" that he wanted to show off to, and sooner than you probably imagine, every single cent was gone. Eric wanted, and angrily demanded more, while still continuing to make these slanderous videos where he painted Rahat as some kind of evil exploiter - AFTER ALL HE DID to try to help this drug addict.

This case shows that you CAN'T help a drug addict just by providing stuff, because you just become an enabler. Give them money and they INSTANTLY get as much of the drug they possibly can, without concerns about food, shelter, work or the future.

Give them house, and they just try to exploit it to turn it into money so they can buy more drugs.

Give them food, and they know that's one fewer thing they have to worry about - they don't have to try to buy food AND drugs, now they can blow everything they have on drugs.

You can't help drug addicts by just giving them material things. You can only help someone if they are ready for the help, ready to give up the drugs, ready to be sober. Only sober people can be helped that way. Addicts can ONLY be helped by an intervention, and sometimes the addict CHOOSES to be homeless and poor so they don't have to give up their drug habit. This is one of the biggest stupidities I know of.

[–] avortac4 (3430) 2 years ago

I don't think your theory holds true, though, because Elsa CLEARLY cares for Anna, but she is traumatized by the trolls and their fearmongering and what she did as a kid to Anna, and she can't control her POWERS (how would drugs give you superpowers or enable you to CREATE LIFE or a huge ice castle? Drugs don't magically manufacture staggering amounts of energy).

You can twist almost any movie into something it was never meant to be, and I never liked that - let movies be what they are, and let's criticize them for what they ACTUALLY are, not what your fan theory suggests they COULD be, if the writers were as sick as these 'fans' that create these twisted versions.

It's like the movie isn't good enough for you, if it doesn't have some horror in it, so you twist and turn everything to fit your lousy narrative that takes all the goodness and innocence away and tosses everything into the most dreary, scary and gloomy 'adult' world possible.

Why would you even do that? Elsa is not on drugs, she just has ICE POWERS. Why is this not enough for you?

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

lnteresting theories. l would imagine drug addiction is a lot worse than what Elsa goes through dealing with her ice powers.

Also she has support from her sister, who never gives up on her, which is great. Well, more than great because it saves her life.

Not everyone has that kind of support.