http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/frozen-2-people-are-campaigning-to-make-elsa-the-first-lgbt-princess-in-disneys-history-a7009046.html
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Please don't, it will ruin her character. I hope Disney doesn't give into this.
shareThey won't. America is still a highly conservative country, and Disney would lose a LOT of revenue.
shareI know of alot of people not willing to see Disney movies if they did that to the character, that community are a bunch of bullies and they like to strong arm many shows and movies into submission of who and what to make gay or straight.
shareI wouldn't take my daughter to watch Frozen if Elsa had a female "love interest"... I wouldn't even watch it myself just because it wouldn't interest me at all. Nothing wrong with it and if they choose to make it - they should since there are people out there that will appreciate it, but it would be nicer if they made a separate movie with a character that was already lesbian/gay from the beginning.
can't outrun your own shadow
If they do make her gay then that would be what she was "from the beginning", since her preference was never discussed in the first movie. The fact that you assumed what orientation she was doesnt mean they ever actually said or are somehow betraying you.
If a childrens movie with a lesbian couple in it doesnt interest you thats fine, you arent a child. But to refuse to take your daughter to see it if she wanted to watch it is bizarre. Believe it or not seeing two women together isnt going to somehow corrupt your child, its something shes going to be seeing in real life at some point.
It's not what she was in the beginning though since she's not a real person. This is a very poorly thought out post. Not that I think she can't be lesbian but it's a fair point to argue that they'd never support Frozen in the 1st place if they were going in that direction. They weren't in 2013 because these movies on a large scale are one and done.
shareAll you've done is taken my point and are trying to use it against my argument. I dont care if shes gay or not, other people do. My point was that this isnt a real person, they can make her whatever they want and they still can since her preference was never given out in the first movie. How something that simple went over your head is beyond me.
shareI think the revenue would balance out. Bigots would likely boycott, but open minded people would likely go to see it. If Frozen 2 ends up being a pleasant movie and gives Elsa a girlfriend, I will see it multiple times in the theater just to show support.
Is that even possible?
I never ask that question till after I've done it
No, I think there would real revenue loss. LGBT-positive adults might buy tickets to be supportive, but they won't buy toys and halloween costumes and little backpacks and all the other licensed merchandise Disney makes money on.
And yes, I think there really would be a fall-off of sales to the family crowd. Because the parents still control the money, and they make decisions based on what they don't want to discuss with their kids.
How exactly will it ruin her character?
Is that even possible?
I never ask that question till after I've done it
Better she could really care about her sister before... And her kingdom too.
I have no opinion on this.
shareonce again Tumblr forces major corporations to conform to THEIR rules (be gay or be gone)
shareMost of them are likely social justice warriors who just like to feel good about themselves because they're 'offended' by something that doesn't even affect them. Like animal-meat protestors that aren't vegetarian...
"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"
You know what, I honestly wouldn't care if they wanted too. What's putting me off is reading the tweets and posts from people who act like they are owed this and getting irritated it hasn't happened yet. Now I don't want it to happen just because I don't want Disney giving in to these self involved turds.
shareThis is ridiculous. People are so obsessed with LGBT issues to the point of madness. Not to quote Elsa, but LET IT GO! People need to stop adding insult to injury. If gays and Christians don't want to fight then DON'T do this.
shareIt's official. Frozen 2 has been renamed "Lesbian".
www.cnn.com/frozen2-renamed-lesbian
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I read this article and it's stupid. They want to sent the message to kids that it's okay to be gay. Thing is a lot of kids who watch Frozen wouldn't understand anyway. There are little girls right now singing Let It Go, but don't know the meaning behind it of empowerment and accepting who you are. To them it's just a lovely song.
Don't go confusing them.
The main reason I am in favor of it is it could tell kids it doesn't matter which why they end up going. Being that Elsa had no romantic interest whatsoever, it's totally plausible she just hadn't found the right woman.
Ironically, one of the reasons kids might be confused is due to all the bigots complaining about it.
Is that even possible?
I never ask that question till after I've done it
Is sexual orientation something a 5 year old or 6 year old or 7 year old needs to think about?
That's one of the things I hate about some schools giving kids literature with gay mommies and daddies as well as hetero mommies and daddies. It's confusing children, because MOST children have a mommy and daddy.
You bigots are the majority of the reason younger children often end up hearing about orientation.
Is that even possible?
I never ask that question till after I've done it
Maybe you people should shut up about it and stop trying to disrupt the norm, which has worked to build this civilization for ages until those kids start questioning the norm, questioning their own sexuality. I guarantee you, a 5 year old isn't going to care until you introduce it into their heads. You know why the relationship of mommies and daddies is the norm?? Because it's the one relationship that has the potential to produce more kids. YES, in the most savage form, our sexuality is all about reproduction.
shareSo what you're saying is you don't want to have to do a basic parental thing.
Saying 'It's confusing for children' just means one is too lazy to explain it. We had genocide, lust, sexual assault, etc. in Hunchback of Notre Dame. But no, a girl liking anither girl is what
Most kids actually have some idea of their orientation by 6 or 7 so why not have a kids' movie that tells them it's OK to be you even if the majority isn't?
*Is sexual orientation something a 5 year old or 6 year old or 7 year old needs to think about?*
If you felt that strongly about it then why not say something about the countless movies that depict heterosexual attraction? How is this any different? At least if my daughter has a relationship with another female I dont have to worry about an accidental pregnancy, think of the bright side here.
You hit the nail on the head, MOST children do have a mommy and daddy, but not all, quite a few children have parents who identify as queer. And so far ALL disney movies have had only hetero depictions. Even by your own words its about time they have at least one depiction, even though you didnt mean to say that.
Most children have 2 parent households, should we not talk about stories involving single parents because it isnt the majority?
Most children live with their mom and dad, so I guess we should never have stories about orphaned children? Except there are plenty of those, and being an orphan would be a lot scarier to a child than seeing a depiction of two people who are in love with each other.
Should we only and always address the majority and never an alternative experienced by some? No of course not, and this is no different. And yes it is something children need to think about. Children usually know who they are attracted to at that age, I dont know about you but I knew I was straight and you probably realized this as well. A lot of them arent straight though, and it must be incredibly difficult and confusing to never see any depictions you can relate to, and even worse only shown one thing implying your feelings are somehow wrong, weird or immoral.