Pointless feminism ruined the entire show.

"No one is going to take you seriously until you stop posting drivel and grow up"
Yeah, this is from the one who constantly accuses me of being Alice Campion. Tell me again about growing up?

"I consistently blame certain women or certain kinds of women for making films that are only ever about pushing an absurdly extremist man-hating feminist agenda. Women such as your mum, Jane Campion." <<<<prime example of a hypocrite...Previous line from you said for me go GROW UP...

"No, I haven't. In those films and things I have seen she portrays all men as scum and all women as saintly." Which of her films have you seen exactly? Which films of hers portray women as saintly? Where is your proof of all of these saintly women? You won't come back with any examples because 1) You've not seen anything she's done. You didn't watch all of Top of the Lake. 2)If you had seen her work you would know that her women aren't saintly.

"Are you really that stupid? Honestly? Of the women making films too many of them use film to further a stupidly extreme feminist view point such as all men are evil scum and all women are martyrs." Tell me again all of these films made by women that portray women and men like that? Again, you can't because you are making this up. You have no evidence to support this view of yours.

" Why would you think I " hate" Jane Campion? I dislike what appears to be her radical feminist view that all men are vile rapists and child molesters but that doesn't mean I dis like her as a person. I am beginning to dis like you, I must say." You do hate Jane Campion and she doesn't portray 'all men are vile rapists and child molesters' That is a lie.

YOUR REVIEW FOR RACE OF THE YANKEE ZEPHYR: "Recently a Kiwi friend has forced me to watch a pile of New Zealand films with her, and all I can say is that I now no longer have any desire to ever visit New Zealand." <<<<Your extremism at it's best. It also shows how you judge filmmakers and film making and your narrow view and of how you box everything up. You are obviously one of those people who when viewing a film, takes it too much to heart. Why would you judge a country in this way...For God's sake DON'T WATCH ANY AUSSIE FILMS THEN, particularly Bad Boy Bubby or you're sure to stay away from that country as well. That is like a foreigner watching Silence of the Lambs and deciding to stay away from America because all Americans MUST BE a deranged lady killer who skins women or a sick professional head shrinker with a taste for human flesh.

You are in denial that this series portrays men in a bad light but that's ok because IT WAS WRITTEN BY A MAN and because your love interest Gillian Anderson is in it. As I said before READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE, and you will see that others think The Fall is just another misandric piece of garbage showing men in a bad light...Do you agree with that stance or are you only taking up for it because Gillian Anderson was in it?

My point is 1) Very few women make films. About 95% of directors are men; 2)Logically this means very few women are directors; 3) Very few of those women portray this 'toxic agenda' that you absurbly claim that Jane Campion is making.

Top of the Lake was about a gang of criminals and a corrupt legal system. This is NOT saying YOU SHOULD TAKE ALL THIS SERIOUS BECAUSE ALL MEN ARE CRIMINALS AND ALL MEN ARE BAD COPS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? You can't take one or two films that happen to be made and written by a woman and say well they are all like that. Also, AGAIN JUST FOR THE RECORD, Campion co-wrote this film with A MAN and it was co-directed BY A MAN. I find it odd that people like you only seem to object to 'bad men' when a female director/writer is involved. There are literally hundreds of films directed by men, written by men and produced by men that show nearly every single character as bad. Also, I wonder if your complaints are strictly for films that portray men in a bad light yet do you show any objection at all to when rampant misogyny is on the screen? Probably not. Your silence is deafening in those cases.

You accuse me of needing to grow up but you need to do a bit of it yourself.




I'll tell you in another life when we are both cats.

Wow. Do you hear yourself? So few movies are directed by women (5%, despite 50% of all film school graduates being female - no sexism there), I just don't understand how you can possibly think it's females driving what you refer to as 'extreme feminism'. And how are these movies getting produced? Who is investing in such an extreme agenda, when most investors and filmmakers - both above and below the line - are male? What you're saying doesn't match up with real numbers. It's a sexist paranoid fantasy.

Has it ever occurred to you that YOU are the one with extreme views? Maybe you're the one who is far right and all of these 'extreme feminist' movies directed and produced by men for men are just reflecting reality in western society? You probably think everybody agrees with you, because you take your soapbox to an echo chamber website, filled with angry guys who can't get laid and need to blame women for not liking them enough.

Fact is, most female directors do mainstream moves, because they have to get this thing call FUNDING and DISTRIBUTION, which are both impossible if you're making a movie that has a small projected audience.

Also, where are these throngs of female directors? I'll bet you that you can't name ten female directors of note who are currently working, offhand. Nobody can, because most women aren't given much of a chance with tent pole films.

Here are a few you MAY have heard of, but I'm guessing not all of them: Kathryn Bigalow (the most famous) only does testosterone heavy movies like Point Break and Hurt Locker. Sofia Coppola does small indie movies - like Lost in Translation - that don't necessarily skew female. Julie Taymor does biopics. Nancy Neyers is known for family comedies, like Parent Trap and Father of the Bride. Valerie Faris did Little Miss Sunshine - an indie family drama. Sarah Polley does depressing dramas about death.

Not one of these quasi-prominent directors specializes in 'feminist propaganda' films. But honestly, you've gotta at least wonder why what you call 'feminist propaganda' exists. Things dont exist in a vacuum. Could it be that women feel sidelined by men? Could it be that douchey posts like yours are what prompts people to create characters like Stella Gibson in response to sexism? The irony!

I agree with your earlier point that The Fall has no "feminist" agenda. Gibson is clearly a superior investigator. This is why she is called in to assist with a case that has baffled local law enforcement. She is not ridiculed or belittled by sexist men who don't think she can help (This kind of sexism was deftly handled in Prime Suspect over 20 years ago). There would have been some resentment to any "outsider" detective brought in to help on a case. Pride getting in the way of welcoming the fresh eyes of a superior detective is not driven so much by sexism, in this case, as simple ego and human nature. The arc involving minor sexist attitudes toward a woman who is sexually confident and assertive was not overbearing at all, in my opinion, and struck me as natural character development, rather than any kind of axe grinding. As has been noted, a superior male detective brought in to help would likely have been admired for his sexual "conquest," yet the point was not belabored, nor was it "pointless feminism."

Gibson is interesting because of her intellect and her ability to be her own person without fear of the judgements of others. She is complex, rather than an unrealistic fantasy of heroic perfection. That such a female character still has the power to threaten some viewers is a reminder that true gender equality remains very much a work in progress.

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