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I don't understand the hate.

posted 11 years ago by kayleewheat
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I am looking forward to seeing this movie. Will it be released in the UK?

I don't understand why a lot of people are slating this film. It hasn't officially opened and the trailer only shows a minute or so of the film. What about the other hour and a half?

I think the movie is different to anything Lindsay Lohan has done. I don't like what she's done to her face or the fact she has been on drugs, but she is a talented actress. She can be taken seriously as an adult actress and Labor Pains proves this. I think The Canyons will and a lot of people can relate to the fact people can be torn between two loves.

Does anybody else think Lindsay deserves more recognition and that this film will be good? There must be someone out there who can see the situation in the same way as me.

Give the girl a chance!

I will be seeing this movie when it comes out.

Xxxx

[–] creatorofk 11 years ago

im very excited for this movie because its written by one of my favorites. and ive never had a problem with lindsay's acting. i think shes really talented

[–] coastin_on_a_dream 11 years ago

I like Lindsay's acting in some movies, but she really doesn't have that much range, in my opinion. Honestly, she just acts like herself in all the movies she is in. Mean Girls, Just My Luck, A Prairie Home Companion, Georgia Rule, I Know Who Killed Me, Liz and Dick... she just acts like Lindsay Lohan. Sure, she can carry a scene, cry on cue, and express emotion, but I think her biggest fault is that she can't truly create a character. She cannot disappear into a role.

Also, I thought Labor Pains was one of her weakest performances. She was so wooden in that movie and she didn't create a character with much personality. Having said that, the script was bad and her character wasn't well written, so she didn't have much to work with in the first place.

I am excited for this movie, but I can tell that the character Lindsay is playing, Tara, is very similar to herself.

[–] IrinaOma 11 years ago

I don't agree with you. I think Lindsay showed different acting in liz & Dick. In Labor Pains she didn't show a supernatural acting because the film itself didn't need a special acting. Also, Lindsay gets a very similar roles so we must count this fact as well.

Look at Jennifer Aniston, Kate Hudson, Scarlett Johansson, Amanda Seyfried etc They show one and the same type of acting in every film.

[–] appyyh 10 years ago

Not that Lindsay Lohan is better than Tom Cruise or Brad Pitts, but Cruise and Pitts have always acted like themselves too without much range either. Now that she is approaching 30 soon, perhaps she will learn to play more mature roles in the future.

[–] ThomasMuf 11 years ago

Well, I have yet to see anything by Bret Easton Ellis that is worth more than a pile of dog manure. Certainly not "American Psycho", nor "Less Than Zero", both books that, academically speaking, are garbage. I should know, I graduated with distinction in American literature. :)

OTOH, Paul Schrader is a more than capable film maker. His Auto Focus of 2002 was superb!

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[–] D_Dufner_29 11 years ago

Those books are really good, the movies are what're questionable. Who says "academically, they are *beep* I don't like you.

[–] ThomasMuf 11 years ago

Since you don't understand sarcasm, you are in no position to judge the quality of literature.

[–] ThomasMuf 11 years ago

Since you don't understand sarcasm, you are in no position to judge the quality of literature.

[–] D_Dufner_29 11 years ago

I should have picked up on the sarcasm from the smiley face. *burns book collection out of shame*

[–] NoodleLizard 11 years ago

I'm not sure if you understand sarcasm either. Sarcasm's meant to be obviously stating something to the contrary of the true belief you want to get across, so what are you trying to achieve there? Are you implying that you DON'T have any qualification to speak about literature (in which case everything else you said is sort of void), or was the whole post sarcastic (i.e. you don't think BEE's books are bad)?

Either way, sarcasm doesn't work if it's unclear. Anyone could be forgiven for thinking you were just a pretentious snob.

These bastards!

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[–] martyncymro 11 years ago

Anyone who says, 'I should know, I graduated with distinction in American literature. :)', must be a real *beep* What kind of person says something so immature and stupid?

[–] AndrewBlackie 11 years ago

Those books are both absolute masterpieces, in particular Less Than Zero. I'll give you that American Psycho isn't great and Less Than Zero is absolute garbage, but I really don't see how you can slate BEE.

Watched the trailer for this film though and it looks like absolute *beep* The acting looked horribly awkward and forced, and the sound made me want to cut my ears off. Seriously, I know it was a low budget film, but there is no excuse for how terrible the audio recording is.

[–] lazarillo 11 years ago

I don't find Bret Easton Ellis' books to be either masterpieces OR crap. "Less than Zero" was much better than the movie, but I thought the movies of "American Psycho" and "The Informers" were actually better than the books they were based on, and "Rules of Attraction" was about the same.

Paul Schrader can make good movies (he wrote "Taxi Driver"), but why he insisted on casting a male porn star in the lead (if the vast majority of porn stars could act, they wouldn't wind up in porn) and a train wreck like Lindsey Lohan is beyond me. In "The Informers" Amber Heard played a drugged-out sexually promiscuous woman convincingly (and without complaining to the press that she had spend half the movie in the nude). She probably isn't in real-life (she looks A LOT better than Lohan these days anyway). Well, Lohan, by all accounts, IS one in real-life and that's ironically why she is probably the worst person you could pick to play one in the movie. It's like casting someone who's mentally challenged and dying of cancer to play a character who is mentally challenged and dying of cancer. Whatever "authenticity" they might bring to the role is going to be hampered by the fact that they simply can't ACT in a condition like that.

[–] jamesmfr 11 years ago

Academically? Are you joking me? Academic literature is all fluff and fillagree.

I'm sorry that your Literature program or yourself did not have the ability to understand those novels. Distinction? Sounds more like you gave the professor a distinguished fellatio beneath the lectern.

But yea, Auto Focus was pretty bad.

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[–] greenMinona 10 years ago

DITO!

[–] shaq34643464 11 years ago

Bret Easton Ellis has not shown even the slightest mark of a talented screenwriter. American Psycho, the film (which he didn't write), was ok in a hilarious, campy cult, sort of way. All other movies, either based off his work, or written by him, have been, in my opinion, awful.

I can't judge him as a novelist because I haven't read him, but...Honestly, I stick with the classics. All I've read for the past two months is Shakespeare, Cormac McCarthy, and Nabokov, and it's not because I'm a snob, but it's like: if I'm going to put the time in to read, whatever I'm reading better be damn well good. Same with films. I'm going to watch Ingmar Bergman over some mumble core director who's only known because he's "groundbreaking" or whatever any/everyday. finally, of famous writers and personal friends both, those I respect don't have much respect for BEE, and those who do have respect for him, well...

Ok, BEE out of the way, this whole project seems incredibly gimmicky. Lindsey Lohan? Even if she is a solid actress, nobody is hiring her for her acting ability, they're hiring her for press. James Deen, the porn star? I've seen him act in porns...he's a porn actor...

And finally, the thing that really pisses me off and the reason I will not watch this even if it is hailed a classic (obviously not happening): All these famous millionaires used kickstarter.com to help fund the thing. Any single one of the top 10 most important people involved with this film could have funded the thing quite easily out of their own pocket. And I firmly believe that kickstarter (and the like) money should go to unknown, upstart filmmakers and artists, not multi-millionaire celebrities. Once you have 10 mil or more, you should fund your own work so that producer/kickstarter money can go to people who need it. This will never happen because most rich famous "artists" would rather part with their vision than their money. But it is a firm belief of mine and I'm sticking to it.

[–] marineproductions1 11 years ago

I love this film.

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[–] Hater_Is_Here 11 years ago

I agree with you. But then, look at my name.

[–] kayleewheat 11 years ago

I think I could grow to love this film. X

[–] creatorofk 11 years ago

I like your attitude.

[–] kayleewheat 11 years ago

Thanks :) x

[–] Pakabola 11 years ago

Just saw it. It's a pointless piece of sh!t but I'm sure you'll be defending your girl Lindsay to the grave regardless of what she does.

Say what you want...I'll never come back to this board.

This piece of crap isn't worth more than one post.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!

[–] atclubsilencio 11 years ago

I absolutely can not wait for this film. Paul Schrader. Bret Easton Ellis. Lindsay Lohan. James Deen!?

It's going to be so deliciously trashy.

As for Lohan, I was in love with her as a young gay boy and she is a talented actress.

She gave great performances in Georgia Rule, Mean Girls, A Prairie Home Companion, Freaky Friday, and even in I Know Who Killed Me, despite being an awful film. Let's not forget The Parent Trap, which is basically the prequel to I Know Who Killed Me.

Counting down the days for this one.

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[–] atclubsilencio 11 years ago

Porn stars are stars, and some can act. All porn is is acting, the sex is for business not pleasure. Though of course it goes without saying they enjoy it.

Sasha Grey, despite being terrible in Would You Rather, was quite impressive in The Girlfriend Experience. When she works with the right director she can be really good.

I think your opinion is completely invalid, but that's just my opinion. However, I'm not a huge James Deen fan either, hate his personality and he's not that attractive.

I'm just watching this for Lindsay, and Schrader. And maybe a little bit of Nolan Funk and Gus Van Sant. Plus I've always liked BEE tales of horrible/unhappy people doing terrible things to each other.

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[–] pimp4u 11 years ago

I've only seen the trailer. The acting is HORRID! Especially by the guys. Lindsay acts like she's drunk in every scene. And it was a horrible trailer. Looks like somebody's first attempt at making a movie. They shouldn't quit their job at McDonald's.

[–] atclubsilencio 11 years ago

Funny that everyone is saying she's the best part of the film and gives a great performance.

[–] MagnussO 11 years ago

lol well seeing as she went to rehab she probably was drunk in every scene!