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 Tricia August 19, 2013 at 10:44 pm #

Well, to be perfectly honest, I don’t think Asians overall are racist, I truly don’t. But, I do think that from my personal experience and a lot of other blacks in the Los Angeles area, Koreans are probably the most racist and intolerant of black people. I’ve witnessed it at work and away from work.

I have friends that work in China, Japan and South Korea. South Korea is the worst. The friends in South Korea say the ignorance is appalling of how much they don’t know about black people in general, and Africa in particular. Keep in mind, we’re not talking about a third world country here. They idolize and worship whites and generally tend to treat any black or brown person like crap, even darker Southeast Asians. Plastic surgery is CRAZY there in the pursuit of the aquiline Caucasian nose (which is very evident when comparing the singers/actors/models to everyday people walking down the street who can’t afford plastic surgery). My friends tell me that in Korea they believe to be American is to be “white”. WTF? The most diverse country in the world and you think you can’t be American unless you’re white? This is not normal nor intelligent thinking. lol

For an excuse of their racism and intolerance, Koreans here want to yell about the Watts riots. They conveniently omit the incident that many believe led up to the riots (how a Korean shopkeeper shot a 14 year old black girl in the back of the head because she THOUGHT she was stealing a bottle of orange juice and, ONLY got probation and community service!), but love to use it as an excuse. How rude and indignant they are to blacks who come into their stores in predominantly black areas, following them around and speaking harshly to them. I don’t get why blacks patronize these stores, OR why the Koreans move into areas and open a business around people they obviously have contempt for. Ask any black woman in a mostly black area who goes into a beauty supply store for black hair products, who’s behind the counter and is the proprietor …a Korean. If they have so much disgust towards us, why are they still in our communities?

I listen to things my friends tell me and I am speechless at times and, that doesn’t happen very often! Compared to a country like Japan, South Korea is light years behind as far as understanding and getting along with people of color and when they come here, they bring that same BS attitude. The pathetic part is how they imitate our style and dance in hip hop and R&B and yet are racist – what sense does that make? Well, racism itself doesn’t make sense so that was a stupid question. One friend told me that when she gets fed up with Korea, she takes the ferry to Fukuoka, Japan and feels like a human being again. But, as soon as she gets back on the ferry to return to Busan, the points, stares and rude comments begin.

The really funny thing is, I have heard just as many rude, racist, insensitive things said by whites about Asians as are said about us. I don’t play that bull about whites commenting to me about other people of color because if they talk about them, they’ll talk about ME! I don’t understand, I really don’t. 
 Written 5 Aug 2014

It's only half true, I think.

You don't want to think of it as Koreans being 'racist.'
Rather I recommend you think of it as Koreans just being plain azzholes.

Koreans and their insecurity often lead them criticizing others that don't fit their narrow standards.
(Anyone who visited Korea for sometime would know, no matter what age, class, or sexual group that one belongs to, Koreans are very insecure.)

Koreans discriminate big time, but it's not because of their racist agenda, it's because they don't know any better. I don't know which is worse, but at least one can still fill up the glass when it is only a half full.

Think of rednecks believing President Obama an Arab, or junior high teenagers making fun of one kid for wearing a goofy looking hat. That's about the degree of racism existing in Korea. It's very primitive, and simple. 
 So here's another vaguely race-baiting essay that I had to write.

I'm really, really fed up with the Koreans I've met in Beijing. Mind you, this has nothing to do with any Korean-Americans I know or any Koreans living in Korea. But there are essentially two groups of Koreans that I have met in Beijing, and while at first I didn't even seem to have any particular feelings about them, now when I see a 20-something Korean female or a 30-something male, I feel a lingering nausea.

The 20-something Korean females would describe 11 of 13 of my classmates this spring semester (the other two were Japanese females). They, like every Korean female teen out of Seoul, dresses the exact same: sneakers without socks, khaki shorts, pink/pastel polo shirt, gold necklace, and a NY Yankees hat. From Day 1 they acted like total and complete bitches to me. I remember asking one of them where she came from and replied, "Seoul" with a completely gratuitous sneer on her face. I brought up something about teaching English and I asked another person if she had studied English before, and she replied with a (Chinese) "Duh! Of course I have." That's before I realized what the English situation is in Korea: parents force their kids to spend every free second in some sort of cram class, most of which are English classes, but a lot still speak unintelligible English after 8-10 years of this routine because rote memorization is stressed too much. From that day on, any attempt at small talk between classes was greeted by absolute cold stares.

I can't really think of a reason for their attitude towards me. One reason might be that they looked down on me for not having as fluent Mandarin as they have. I'll admit that this semester I was at the bottom of the class. That's partly because I was relatively lazy during the semester, mostly because my grades at BNU don't count at all for my Swat degree. Another aspect is that they had a much better background that I did. Most of them had studied two or three years of only Chinese, while I had studied two years at Swat, where Chinese was 1/4 of my work load. Thirdly, there's a similarity between Korean and Chinese that makes it easier for them to learn Chinese e.g. the word for library: the Chinese = tushuguan and the Korean = doshuguan or that form of marital arts: Korean = tae-kwon-do or the Chinese = taiquandao. Another completely unrelated reason why they could have been snobs to me is perhaps they have a special dislike of Americans because of the whole stationing of 40,000 rowdy, ill-behaving US troops in South Korea thing. But I think the primary reason is feelings of racial superiority (which I'll talk about later.)

The other group of Koreans that I've met have been these 30-something Korean males. This would consist of the father of the two kids I tutored in the spring and these two guys who were in my class for about three weeks. The most striking thing about them was their intense male chauvinism (another essay topic.) But they also had the racial chauvinism thing going on too. This father would really really get on my nerves. He would constantly talk down to me, saying that I should only teach them in this one particular style of forcing them to repeat sentences over and over again until their pronunciation is perfect, much like they do in Korea. I repeatedly told him that that was the reason why most Koreans speak *beep* English after studying 10 years of it was that they can't break out of the rote memorization and try to actually work with the language. Furthermore, it was me, not him, who had experience teaching English and I knew which methods are best for them and easiest for me. I kept the job since he would only occasionally check in and give me this sort of *beep* so I could teach as I saw fit. But I think the reason why he felt like he could talk to me this way, like I was some sort of servant who would do exactly as he said, stems from (once again) a feeling of racial superiority. Sure, I might be fluent at English; he'll respect me in that aspect and thus will seek my help in teaching his kids. But at the end of the day, I'm a white American and he's Korean and thus I'm below him in every other aspect, and he'll talk to me with a tone as if he were blessing me with his presence completely out of his benevolence.

I think the primary reason for their snobbishness comes down to cultural beliefs. Koreans, much like Chinese and Japanese, believe that their race/country is the number one in the world. On one hand, that leads to a bit of intracontinental hatred. For instance, the vast majority of Chinese loathe Koreans (probably because a few decades ago, they were economically similar but now Korea is much richer) and absolutely despise the Japanese (this might have something to do with the millions of civilians that the Japanese systematically slaughtered during WWII and, unlike Germany, never apologizing for it.) And the same goes for Koreans: they hate the Japanese (again, the whole WWII thing of invading Korea and forcing millions of their women to serve as military prostitutes; these "comfort women" were also regularly referred to as "public toilets" by the Japanese troops.) I admit that I don't know the typical Japanese's or Korean's attitude towards the Chinese since the only Japanese or Korean people I know are here studying Chinese (and thus are more prone to be open to the place), but I'm sure they look down on China as a filthy, authoritarian rural backwater.

But of course, this feeling is directed towards white people as well. It ranges in aspects from most of the Korean students I know being unwilling to hang out with white people (or non-Koreans in general) to complete familial/societal castigation if you dare marry a foreigner. Of course, not everyone is like that. There are plenty of exceptions. Certainly not every Chinese I know is a pig to me and I have several Japanese friends out here as well. But the reason why I'm focusing this essay on Koreans is that of the 15 or so that I directly knew, all 15 of them acted like complete azzholes to me. Maybe if I were to go to Korea and live there and learn the language/culture, I would have a better experience with them, but as it is, Korea right now is pretty low on my list of countries I want to go and see. (Although I think North Korea would be pretty *beep* cool to see.)

I think the only possible way for white people in America to understand the racial privileges they have is to live for a long-term period in some place like Seoul or Beijing. I think you have to directly experience DuBois's so-called "veil" (he proposed that blacks in America live as if they wear a veil; they can see the outside world, but the outside world can't see them) in order to understand his "double consciousness" (or the feelings of ambivalence of being both black and American). And I think it's also a humbling experience which every American should go through. It would certainly help out our "Rah rah! We're #1" complex. 
 Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Is Ban Ki Moon a South Korean azzhole?

The answer is a categorical YES, and I am including him in the Azzhole Index with a top recommendation of 105.

The U.N. is much worse than the U.S. Senate. It is merely a society where AZZHOLES give speeches. 
 South Korea’s Loathed President Park Geun-hye Has Been Impeached

Updated: Dec. 9, 2016 10:15 AM

A recent opinion survey showed 78% of respondents supported her impeachment

Following six weeks of street protests and an approval rating that plunged to just 4%, South Korean President Park Geun-hye was impeached Friday by the nation’s National Assembly, signaling an ignominious end to a term that had become mired in a corruption scandal.

The impeachment vote required at least 28 of Park’s fellow Saenuri Party lawmakers to cross the aisle to make up the majority two-thirds of the 300-seat legislature. The final vote was 234 to 56 in favor of impeachment. Park is suspended with immediate effect although the vote needs to be ratified by the nation’s Constitutional Court within 180 days to become permanent.

The nation’s Prime Minister takes over Park’s responsibilities in the interim, though Park had already offered to resign if lawmakers voted against her. If she does, new elections must be held within 60 days. Crowds of banner-waving protesters greeted the verdict with cheers outside the chamber.

“President Park Geun-hye has not only forgotten her duty as the nation‘s leader and administrative chief but also violated the constitution and other laws concerning her public duties,” said opposition lawmaker Kim Kwan-young while presenting the impeachment bill.

Park is the 64-year-old daughter of former South Korean military dictator Park Chung-hee, who is credited with spearheading the East Asian nation’s rapid economic growth of the 1970s and ’80s. She is accused of sharing classified documents with her longtime confidante, Choi Soon-sil.

Choi, the daughter of the shaman-like cult leader who grew close to Park and her strongman father, has been charged with using her influence over Park to wrest almost $70 million from some of South Korea’s biggest companies, including LG, Hyundai and Samsung.

Crowds between 500,000 to 1.5 million have thronged central Seoul in recent weeks to demand Park’s ouster. Protesters see the corruption scandal as symptomatic of wider problems in South Korean society, including soaring income inequality, ingrained sexism and a lack of social mobility.

Park has yet to resign or formally comment on her impeachment and has not been seen in public since Tuesday, instead ensconcing herself in the presidential Blue House despite the roiling demonstrations less than a mile away. “She really has been very tone-deaf to what the people want,” says Professor Sean O’Malley, a political scientist at South Korea’s Dongseo University.

As President, Park is constitutionally protected from prosecution other than for insurrection or treason, though prosecutors say she had a “considerable” role in Choi’s alleged transgressions. There are widespread calls for criminal charges against Park once she leaves office. Park has apologized for the scandal three times but insists nothing she did was for personal gain.

“My heart is crushed when I think I cannot resolve the deep disappointment and anger of the people even if I apologize 100 times,” she said in one tearful televised statement.

South Korea now faces a damaging period of political limbo. Prime Minister Hwang Kyo-ahn is deeply unpopular among the opposition and protesters, who see him as too close to Park’s scandal-hit administration. The lack of clear leadership has consequences for regional security, with Seoul a vital ally to Washington’s efforts to curb the nuclear ambitions of rogue state North Korea.

However, O’Malley says there are signs the Choi scandal has had the positive effect of empowering the national prosecutors’ office. “I’m hopeful that they will be more aggressive in pursuing political corruption cases in the future,” he says, adding that the saga “may strengthen the legal system in the legal system in the long run.” 

🇰🇷 Why SOUTH KOREANS are RACIST -- RACIST and "a bunch of highly-insecure-azzholes, who take-out their own insecurities on others all around them" -- is something you can find-out directly by visiting KOREAN CHRISTIAN CHURCHES through-out the USA and actually go live/work in SOUTH KOREA.

I am a Korean-American man who gets along with Caucasian-Americans (WASPs) better than "my own azzhole people," so I clearly avoid BOTH, nowadays. KOREANS like to see OTHER KOREANS "LOSE," so they "psychologically, through peer-pressure, and by having one-poison employee to get the boss to hate-on another workplace employee, and use volatile-verbal threats/passive-aggressive mindgames to undermine each other," which is why I 100% avoid all of them, nowadays. Healthy mind, healthy body, and a healthy outlook.

WHO CARES?... I do. That is all that matters in this entire universe, my man. 
SERIOUSLY... WHO CARES? That is like asking why Dominic Toretto (Vin Diesel) keeps drinking that pizz in a bottle called a "Corona" when most people prefer to drink beer from the tap. "MY UNIVERSE" is all that matters here, everyone.  🇰🇷