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Just say abuse and 30% of women forgive the wife.

posted 12 years ago by alphaboo
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Someone said on one of these threads that you should read the book it is more obvious she wasn't abused.

Even in the movie there is no evidence of abuse. The scenes of alleged abuse are just depictions of what she was testifying to. The only allegations of abuse happened post murder. She told the police she was abused only after she killed her husband. She was lying to his parents to give her time to destroy evidence not because she was scared Jeff would abuse her because of the dirt on the floor and the stained carpet.

The movie also showed her making sure the insurance policy was in effect. This was corroborated.

It was obvious she was cleaning the house to destroy evidence. Not because Jeff would be angry.

It is amazing that by just claiming abuse a large segment of women automatically believe it. No need to prove abuse. Just say it.

The only other person to claim she was abused was a friend.

The psych fell for her line 100%. He should have his licensed pulled. She gave him the performance he wanted and he bought it. However she slipped. She told the psych she tied her husband up and the lawyer that her husband attacked her.

Selling her husband's things. Really a remorseful mournful act.

The women that ran her husband over with her car three or four times while his daughter was a passenger claimed it was because she was abused.

The problem is not that women will use allegations of abuse to justify murder but that an amazing amount of women will accept the allegations without question. Plus some men.

Sadly someday there will be a backlash and women who really were seriously abused will not believed.

I am just amazed that anyone who watched this movie could be in doubt as to if she had been abused. It was obvious she had not been abused.

It seems that some of the posters did not understand the scenes showing him being abusive were just illustrating what she said. There was no evidence that was what happened. It was what she said happened. There was no corroboration of her story. It seems many posters just believed she was abused because she said so.

This is what worries me. That a lot of women will believe allegations of abuse without any real proof. It is amazing that so many women use this defense. It is worse that so many women let them get away with murder using unproved allegations of abuse.

I also wonder why he sentenced was reduced. She did it. She also did it viciously. She should of been re-sentenced to 30 years. However I never can understand how the Texas justice system.

[–] SavannahNights 12 years ago

I agree. I find it disgusting how many people will give defend a woman especially if the woman is attractive for murderering her husband if the woman uses the battered woman defense (that has become as overused as the mental illness defense) even if there zero evidence to support their claim.

The justice system needs a major overhaul. Unless there is solid evidence that the murder was self defense, women who murder their husband should face the same conquences as men who murder their wife (if Susan was a man she would have gotten a harsher sentence).

Domestic violence should not be used as a free pass to committ murder. It makes a mockery of Domestic violence and abused women who really did murder in self defense.

[–] reg_griffin 12 years ago

The "Backlash" has already started & Women everywhere who are in an Abusive relationship(s) who cannot leave for whatever reason have Women like this to blame for (SOME) of what they may expect should they ever find themselves In Extremis.

[–] Gemma_Philips 10 years ago

Many women have admitted to me they have lied about a man abusing them because they get automatic sympathy, the man is instantly disliked without any proof or defence. In some of those cases I see the men are still scorned and disliked after the truth has come out. Mud sticks, you can wash it off after allegations but not all of it.

I think people, both men and women, even children, should be punished depending on the severity of that mud. If it is likely to effect the wrongly accused for life, effect employment prospects, relationship prospects, effect their chances of being a parent and so on, I think a slap on the wrist is disgusting.

I have seen one man lose a house because he lost his job which in turn made him fall behind on mortgage payments. The wife left him after that and took his children. This kind of stuff is very common and because it is so common, nothing more tells me the leniency shown to liars just encourages.

Personally I would give a person 20 years in prison for destroying the life of somebody with a life.

[–] morganseer 9 years ago

I disagree. Women may speak up for female movie characters that are portrayed sympathetically, but in real life they can see through other women much better than men. And they do ask questions, such as why didn't you just get a divorce? The only time I have any sympathy for a woman who kills her husband is when she can't leave him without him trying to kill her.

We could get into issues of denial and anger accumulation due to abuse, but those aren't issues particular to women.

As for the psychologist, they act on the best information they have. They can't just decide someone is guilty, even if they have a hunch. The need a confession or evidence to the contrary.