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Great movie and not as bleak as you'd expect!


I found this movie to be surprisingly female empowering.. I do not see this movie as an exploitation of the girl or her as anything less than in control of what happens around her.
I am happy to finally see a movie that serves this positive message - even though I see most of the world interprets this movie differently than I, and sees the main girl as a victim.

Here is my YouTube video review for your interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPioA78RQ30

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Can I ask how old you are, Siel_O?? The fact that you think this film gives a positive message and that the main character, in your opinion, was not exploited, makes me think that you're young (teens/20s??).

Honestly, I don't mean any disrespect - I'm just curious as to how you could think the above (???). Now, I'm 43, and my views about young girls having casual sex have definitely shifted as I've gotten older (and by this, I mean not only that they should ideally be in a committed, loving relationship, before considering sex; but often, whether they're even emotionally/mentally ready for sex, at such a young age - of course, it varies, girl to girl). Now I say this as A) a woman who experienced a relatively 'normal' adolescence/coming-of-age experiences in the 80s and then college (away from home) in the early 90s, while making my share of mistakes (we all do), while knowing a plenty of girls like Gili (who didn't feel like they 'fit in' or wanted to be popular); and B) as a clinical social worker for over a decade (I do adult and adolescent psychotherapy).

Yikes, this movie made me so sad, but it makes me sadder, in a way, that young women would look at it as a movie about 'girl power' or something like that. Now, with that said, I'm not saying that Gili was *raped* perse', as least how the law defines rape; however, this particular group of boys (boys - and girls - in groups tend to do things that they often wouldn't do if on their own) exploited Gili's vulnerability and need to 'fit in.' So obviously, I don't condone their behavior, but unfortunately, I DO understand it, as it happens in every high school and every college, to a certain extent - yet, I certainly don't mean that ALL boys engage in this type of behavior. Some are surprisingly mature about putting the feelings and needs of their female peers before their own.

Anyway, I'm just super curious as to why you posted what you did...thx in advance, if you can elaborate on your initial post :)

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Well, I was specifically thinking of the scene at the club, when she was on the bathroom floor. What's his name (who was the most aggressive of the boys) could've have forced himself on her - she was drunk and wouldn't have been able to get away, but he left. I suppose when he pushed her head down for a BJ was forced, yet she continued to do it, which makes it a gray area for a prosecuter(but she was CLEARLY taken advantage of - of course I agree with that).

To be clear, when I said she was not raped, I meant it as it is *legally defined*, meaning that under the law, rape occurs when one party does NOT consent to sex (or is unable to e.g., if the boys were 18+) passively or otherwise. However, while many may disagree with me, rape, perse' is somewhat of a fluid thing and not always black and white. That's just IMO. So I apologize and will correct myself - she was DATE RAPED; however, it would be extremely hard for any of those times to be proven in a court of law. I'm not even sure a prosecutor would take the case. It's a sad reality, but that's the truth - I work closely with law enforcement on similar type cases.

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What planet are you from??? Empowered??? She was assaulted in more ways than one...

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