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If Guillermo del Toro had got to do Hellboy 3.


How much better do you think it would have done in the Box Office

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probably 30-40m opening wkend imo

The reboot is dead. Bury it:
Again, Hollywood seems to be learning this lesson as well. Elizabeth Banks’ Charlie’s Angels will exist in the same universe as both the TV show and the two early 2000s movies. Jordan Peele has promised that the Candyman movie he is producing will be a “spiritual sequel” to the 1992 classic rather than a remake, and Jason Reitman’s Ghostbusters movie is pitching itself as a loose sequel to the first two Ghostbusters in contrast to Paul Feig’s reboot from 2016.

Hollywood has seen the nostalgia-driven successes of The Force Awakens, Jurassic World and Creed and acted accordingly. Not every nostalgia sequel breaks out (Independence Day: Resurgence comes to mind), but the batting average is a lot better than with reboots and remakes. Moreover, the likes of Halloween work partially because the first movie or movies was/were hits in the first place. If Terminator: Dark Fate works, then it’ll be because it’ll work as a Terminator sequel from the same folks who made the first two films, complete with Linda Hamilton back in a key leading role.

Does that mean that a Guillermo del Toro-directed Hellboy 3, which reunited the cast and crew of the first two movies would be a big hit today? Not necessarily, and for the record, this project began as a del Toro-directed Hellboy 3 before the filmmaker walked (and took Ron Perlman with him) over budgetary issues. But without arguing that a big-budget Hellboy 3 would have been a smart play, it certainly made more sense in 2019 than a straight-up reboot that couldn’t help but alienate those who only liked the IP because of those first two movies.Epilogue: Lionsgate will live, especially if Long Shot (which is supposed to be quite good) and John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum makes just over/under John Wick: Chapter 2 numbers. But the domestic failure of Hellboy (and, yes, it could perform better overseas) is evidence that Hollywood was right to turn down another Hellboy movie. And the one we got, come what may, was perfectly positioned to die a grisly box office death, lacking the marquee director, movie stars, good reviews, a connection to the first movie and anything of value for folks not already interested in the mere notion of another Hellboy. In the end, Hellboy stumbled last weekend because audiences had little interest in seeing it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/04/15/hellboy-box-office-ghostbusters-terminator-candyman-star-wars-halloween-jumanji-blade-runner/

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The problem is that nostalgia is useless without talent. You can continue Star Wars, or Ghostbusters, or Jurassic Park, but this is not gonna bring back the talent that built those movies.

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Oh believe me, it would have been awesome compared to the dumpster fire we're witnessing right now. I'm just grateful that Del Toro had absolutely NOTHING to do with this wreck of a film.

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Positive reviews. Fans of the first two films would have been more likely to show up, for sure. It would've done a lot better.

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The problem is the first two failed to make a profit even with del Toro behind the helm. There's also the unlikely chance del Toro would commit to the lower $50 million budget which a Hellboy movie needs even if they went the PG-13 route.

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Those films failed at the box office for two reasons: A) They had bad marketing. B) They were pitted against two biggest movies of their respective years, Passion of the Christ and The Dark Knight.

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True. They had a lot going against them. But still it feels like Hellboy only caught on with a niche crowd. I think the budget has to be low regardless of who directs it or how well they market it. PG-13 or R it doesn't appear to be all that popular as a standalone. It seems these films need to be part of a bigger universe these days if they want to succeed.

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