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I still prefer Branagh's Henry V.


Don't get me wrong. I like Tom Hiddleston a lot - but the direction of this baffled me. Why waste the St. Crispin's Day speech on six guys? I also missed the playfulness of Emma Thompson's Catherine. Too bad it wasn't Kenneth directing Tom.

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Haven't seen this version of Henry V yet, but I found Branagh's quite watchable. I really liked the grit in his presentation of the story.

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Tbh, I liked the quiet way (talking only to six) of this speech more. It was the first time I was actually moved by it. I think it has a much stronger impact on the viewer this way.

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As I say below, the filming and rehearsing time for Henry V was dramatically cut short and rushed. So I don't know if Thea Sharrock filmed the speech scene with only six captains and not the whole brigade was a totally creative decision and would have been the same regardless, or if it was also motivated by time constraints. I think both.

An interesting note:
In an article Hiddleston said on his first day of filming, he was told they were going to shoot the St Crispin's day speech. He responded, "you're joking, right?". But they weren't, and they shot his big, climactic scene that day. That's show biz for you.

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In an article Hiddleston said on his first day of filming, he was told they were going to shoot the St Crispin's day speech. He responded, "you're joking, right?". But they weren't, and they shot his big, climactic scene that day. That's show biz for you.


That story sound like complete bullfeathers to me.

I fully believe that the St. Crispin's Day speech was shot on the first day of filming. I don't believe the star of the production showed up on the first day with no idea of what the production schedule was.

It's really like saying, "Here's a funny story about how incompetent we all were on this production was."

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Each of the three Hollow Crown directors had very different visions and obstacles for their adaptations of the plays. One of the main objectives of the BBC was to make the Hollow Crown a large scale production of Shakespeare for TV with on location filming and authentic sets as in quality film/cinema. Another prime objective was for it to be accessible to mainstream audiences.
It seems Thea Sharrock didn't want to do the straight version of Henry V. She wanted a more intimate feel to Henry and put more attention on the romance between Henry and Kate, the French monarchy as well as the epic on location battlefield scenes.
Also, after filming for Richard II had completed, the BBC moved up the air dates for the whole series so it would be shown during the spring/summer right around (not necessarily during) the Olympics and 2012 Jubilee celebrations. Henry V was actually filmed before Henry IV making the filming even more rushed because Henry IV was two plays and had huge battlefield scenes too that had to be filmed in the snow. This shortened the rehearsal time of Henry V to barley two weeks and a very tight, rushed filming schedule which is one of the reasons I think it feels a little too truncated.

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She wanted a more intimate feel to Henry and put more attention on the romance between Henry and Kate


And she really blew her big chance in the Henry-and-Kate scene. She was asked in a press interview what she as a woman director was aiming to achieve, and said the hoped to give a woman's take on it (I forget the exact wording, but that was the drift). So I had big hopes for that scene; but it was essentially the same as any version I've ever seen - he's dashing, she's beautiful, it all ends with her melting dewily into his arms. There really was nothing new, and certainly no feminine, let alone feminist, angle.

But the hard fact about that scene, which underlies all the courtly wooing, is that he's going to marry her not only whether she likes it or not but whether he likes it or not, and that they both know it. I've always wanted to see how that scene would play with Henry declaiming his carefully-rehearsed 'Fair Katherine, and most fair!' opening gambit to a princess who is distinctly homely, and knows it.

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In the RSC's recent production, which I saw at the Barbican here in London earlier in the year, Henry, as played by Alex Hassell, is not only desperately worried and frankly afraid before the battle, although showing a brave face to his troops, but when it comes to the wooing scene is awkward, shy and very nervous. It makes the whole thing totally real and believable. A refreshing change from the rather smug self-confidence of Olivier, Branagh and the like.

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"the director was aiming to achieve, and said the hoped to give a woman's take on it...There really was nothing new, and certainly no feminine, let alone feminist, angle."



You're referring to Henry & Kate courtship scene which I generally agree with. I think the director was not trying to make a "feminist" version of HenryV but rather decided to make it a little more female centric by giving more time to scenes with Kate and her lady in waiting teaching her English and giving the Kate scenes a little more screen time proportionately than most productions of Henry V. Those scenes were nicely done and worked well enough, but the whole production over all needed more development and better transitions. Instead it's a collection of well acted and produced scenes in sequence to tell the basic plot of the play but not acting together well as one cohesive experience of the story.

I love the scenes that establish the more interior life of the characters like Kate's scenes and the opening scenes of Henry V in his court sizing up the french ambassador and diplomats where we actually get an idea of who little Henry has become now that he's been king for 10 years.

But putting all the slower, character driven scenes together with the epic, action battle part of the play needed more time and more work on the transitions. It really should have been a two part play like Henry IV.

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Hiddleston's version was a relatively low budget tv film. Branagh's version was a relatively low budget film version which had a larger cast and more time to film.

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Compare how Hiddleston does the famous St Crispin's Day Speech and how Branagh does it.

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Hiddleston's version was a relatively low budget tv film


Hardly low budget. It certainly didn't look it. The production level was pretty high. It just had problems of trying to compact a large scale production of an epic battle tale and make the language accessible enough for mainstream consumption.

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Branagh brought more to the role of Henry, and yes, the structure of the film worked with him to bring it to the fore. Hiddleston's Henry was perfectly good. But the fact that the miniseries was front-loaded with epic actors like Suchet, Irons and Stewart made him look a little bit like a lightweight in comparison.

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I think not all Hiddleston's scenes were filmed in a good way also.

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I must say the old Laurence Olivier's version is better than Branagh in my opinion. Also i didn't like Emma Thompson in that role. I want to watch this version now.

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Olivier was good. I agree. Emma Thompson sometimes seemed bored a bit, but she had good chemistry with Branagh.

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Thompson should had good chemistry with Branagh. They were married.

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Thompson should had good chemistry with Branagh. They were married.


I suppose she was casted for this reason only.

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Being married not always guarantee good onscreen chemistry. I reckon.

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'I suppose she was casted for this reason only.'

Thompson went on to become an Oscar winning actress.


'Being married not always guarantee good onscreen chemistry. I reckon.'

They subsequently divorced!

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They subsequently divorced!


That's what I said. Marital status doesn't automatically mean having good onscreen chemistry. 

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I prefer Branagh as Henry V, too -- but I really love Tom Hiddleston's Prince Hal.




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