Apparently there's a genocide going on right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9SWd4IW9BY
http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
Seems all talk about racial equality during Nelson Mandelas years were just propaganda, since now they are doing exactly the same thing as they claimed to be against?
How can people not following the advise of Nelson Mandela be ever considered a propaganda by... Mandela? How can you know that he really did not want racial equality if black people did not take him much into account and did as they pleased?
shareI think he might have had a great vision, but I know the ANC of today is nothing like him, and not even close to what was the underwriting for the democracy between De Klerk and Mandela. Jacob Zuma, current president and ANC lead man, just got a 240 million mansion, and shrugs it of with promises of a better SA for all. It is not only white people being killed, but they do seem to be a soft target.
shareMandela was a terrorist, a murderer, a communist, a supporter of genocide and a racist. The man was evil. If you doubt that for a moment, watch a video of him singing "Kill the Boers".
shareCan confirm South Africa is *beep* and the Rainbow nation has failed. All that Afrikaners (White South Africans) can do now is to try and build their own state before everything falls apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVEcvdclrqo
I cry for the beloved country... and for my countrymen who still live there.
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Genocide my *beep* ass. How disgustingly insulting. You have the internet, USE it
"There are no superhuman powers, only people with superhuman delusions."
So, what would you call the systematic slaughter of thousands, yes, thousands of white farmers by blacks, with impunity? Do you live there? You don't seem to know much about the chaotic situation there... I, unfortunately have family and friends still living there and I'm scared to death for them. Your tirade against the OP makes no sense - unless, of course, you are a black South African yourself.
sharehttp://blogs.channel4.com/miller-on-foreign-affairs/mandela-afrikaners-fear-boer-bloodbath/557
"But the fears articulated by Afrikaner conservatives are not borne out by the facts. Independent studies have concluded that 90 per cent of attacks on white farms are just robberies."
"Dr Johan Burger, of Pretoria’s Institute of Security Studies, is South Africa’s former commissioner of police. An Afrikaner himself, he disparages any notion that racism underpins the attacks on white farms. Isolated farmsteads are soft targets and offer rich pickings for thieves, he says, and because the vast majority of South Africa’s 32,000 commercial farmers are white, that’s why they’re the victims."
"He says that when you delve deeper, it turns out that most of the victims of violence and rape are actually the black farm workers themselves."
Oh, that makes it all better. The blacks raping and killing you is just motivated by greed instead of racism. Now I can die in peace!
Do you hear how retarded your argument is? It doesn't matter the reason for someone killing you, you're still dead.
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> when a white man does anything it is racism
Well, it usually is.
> ... because the were discriminated
That is also true.
> ... unable to live their lives.
They would be if they were not responsible for so much racism and discrimination in the first place that led to hatred against them.
There is a reason its called "Apartheid" you know, but I think racists like you don't care as they prefer to see themselves in the role of the poor victims instead of the horrible people they actually are.
It's easier to try to lie and claim the opposite of what is true than to man up and bear responsibility for ones actions. Posts like yours are the perfect example of that...
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I went out of my way to creat an account to point out that you are speaking absolute rubbish. I am a white South African male residing in SA, there is no genocide, no murdering of white families, and as you put it "chaotic situation" here. There is crime, it effects all races, more so the black community, and our government is a joke, other than that we have a beautiful country with beautiful people, one of the most visited/ vacation countries in the world. Do your research before you blurt out fabricated nonsense you absolute bellend.
shareI also went out of my way to verify my dormant account to comment on this thread.
Spot on there bra.
I find that there are so many bitter expats on the internet that are spreading false and negative information about SA to ignorant foreigners. What do they get out of it?
What they get out of it is that the West should have left the Nationalist Afrikaner government alone and maintained Apartheid. White supremacy is well and alive.
shareJR - 10/10!!!
shareYoh, bra, really?
I'm a white South African and have travelled extensively throughout the country. Genocide? No no. Slaughter??? - come now man. I'm afraid that's some propaganda your community has been feeding you from overseas. Al die bangbroeke fled South Africa. Where are you now? Perth, London?
Yes there are farm murders, terrible. But what do you expect in a country where there is severe inequality (legacy of apartheid), high crime (result of an underprepared ANC govt in 1994) and isolated farm homes. If you ask me, they’re easy targets for criminals.
There are waaaay more black people getting murdered in SA everyday. The ANC govt is failing. Don't make it about race (it’s probably hard for you if you have been brought up like that.)
I have a colleague that used to be part of the AWB (scary). As soon as he went overseas his mind opened up. When he came back to SA he was changed man and realized how ignorant his community really was. Seems to me that you need to revisit your country and understand what the real situation is.
The cowards who fled South Africa have to justify their decision somehow and now that they are nationless and adrift maybe it simply helps them sleep better at night imagining the worst.
I just came back to South Africa after an extended work experience in Japan. The country has its issues but hell, its fabulous to be home!
http://justcallmetessa.blogspot.com
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A lot of misinformation has been spread by both sides of this debate and I feel I need to step in and present the facts as they are.
The person who started this thread was incorrect in stating that a genocide is being committed against the general white population in South Africa. What is however an undeniable fact, is that the white farming community is being systematically targeted and that this systematic targeting is considered a precursor to genocide.
While South Africa is a very violent country and countless people (both black and white) are murdered every day in ordinary robberies and hijackings, the white farmer murders don't fall under the same category for two reasons. Firstly, the rate at which the white farming community is being murdered is simply disproportionate high compared to the rate at which ordinary South Africans are murdered. Secondly, the incredible cruelty inflicted on the white farmers by their murderers, proves that the perpetrators harbor feelings of hatred. It is a routine occurrence for men, women, children and the elderly to be subjected to extreme forms of torture and often the perpetrators simply needlessly murder entire families. There is no need for them to murder their victims, much less to subject them to such hideous forms of torture because they are almost never apprehended.
None of the people who have posted in this thread are white farmers (including me), so their opinions are not as valid as those of the white farmers, regardless of their claims of having traveled the country extensively etc. I would urge these people to stop spreading misinformation and start taking the plight of the white farmers seriously. Just imagine how you would feel if members of your family had been needlessly subjected to violent torture and rape before being murdered.
There's not that much white farmers being murdered. I've heard of zimambabwe, where farmers were murdered and maybe only 2 South African cases of white farmers that I can recall I could be wrong but it wasn't that much
shareOMG
Wake up and smell the gunpowder
go Google ''farm killings in S.A.''
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George Orwell's Animal Farm is the best way to describe the RSA at the moment. The revolutionaries have taken over where the old regime has left off. Greed and corruption is the order of the day.
Still, Cape Town is the best place to be in the republic (I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for that).
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The situation in South Africa is beyond racist attacks that people claim are taking place. There are attacks taking place, and they seem to be racially motivated but the reason is hardly racism.
It seems that people on our farm are living on the front-lines where the white culture is receding and the indigenous culture is regaining ground.
White people on these front-lines don't even know that they regularly infringe on local customs and cultural codes of conduct, for that, they suffer the consequences.
The media is filled with racist propaganda that tries to explain the phenomena of farm attacks in South Africa, and although they are very keen to report on the effects of farm attacks, they are very ignorant when it comes to the cause.
If you want to have an educated discussion about the subject, read 'Midlands' by Jonny Steinberg. It is a journalistic journey into the world behind farm murders, and a very balanced report at that too.
My uncle who immigrated years ago to New Zealand emailed me the other day to say how concerned they were about us because of everything they've heard about the 'white genocide' in SA. I sent them this video in response...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpzR8CCocM
From a South African living in Durban: South Africa lives in a difficult space between a first world and third world country. Those who live first world lives expect a first world experience and are sorely disappointed by government corruption and ineptitude. Those in the third world are expecting that the same "miracle" that happened to the first world (apparently because of apartheid) will somehow come their way by magic, or because of government. As though education, production, service delivery, etc had nothing to do with the creation of wealth.
While the ongoing theft, hijacking, armed robbery, muggings, etc are to be expected in a third world country, what is particularly surprising is the vicious nature of these crimes. Where does the aggression come from? Is it the many Nigerian gang lords that have come into the country (you'll see them parodied in District 9)? Is it the nature of the apartheid regime and the implicit race-hate it bred? Is it the inherent tribal character of the Zulu and Xhosa kingdoms, with a brutality well-established before the whites even arrived? Or is it even of a spiritual nature, with witchdoctors a revered part of local tradition?
The truth is that in my community, people get on with their lives. But the threat of violent crime hangs over our heads all the time. It's not war, and it's not genocide, but crime is real and everyone has been touched in some way. I've been hijacked, my dad has been burgled in his home at knife point. Will we leave the country? Not yet - we can carry on with this status quo. The real threat is a young politician called Julius Malema, and if the masses root for him, he has all the markings of an Idi Amin.