"Ya know what? Kiss my ass as far as ACA goes. If your type had your way their would be none. If my type had their way there would be single payer!!! So you know what? Blame your side for this compromise mess if you don't like it."
Kiss my ass...well, that's an intelligent, mature counterpoint.
Do you know what all the countries with a single payer, socialized system have in common? Every single one of them was economically weaker than the pre-Obama America.
His socialist policies are destroying this country, and the country as a whole was clearly better off before Obamacare. You ignore this because...you just don't like it.
So far 6 million lost their insurance beginning in October...thats already a loss of 6 million.
7 million enrolled by the deadline. Taking into consideration the 6 million who lost their insurance that brings the total to 1 million enrollees.
Your response to millions of people being forced into more expensive, less effective plans for them based on boldfaced lies, and business having to cut their hours for workers to compensate the higher costs is "kiss my ass!"
The negative effects of this abhorent legislation have only just begun, but I have no doubt that sadly, no matter how bad it gets, you'll just keep shilling.
Of course it's not ENTIRELY Obama's fault that we're drowning in massive debt, the fact of the matter is he's added more to it than every prior president in national history combined.
I actually didn't make reference to climate change, but since you brought it up, that's another reason that economies are destroyed, jacking up peoples taxes and wasting time and money on ways to try to magically change the environment. Of course global warming isn't a big seller these days, so the name was changed to "climate change" so we'd have to give more money to the government regardless of what was happening.
"There is NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING you could say on any of these issues that would make me believe things would be better under McCain or Mitt."
Of course not, because you're supporting what you think is your team no matter what.
We'd be most well off with a third party candidate in office to bring down this disgustingly corrupt two party system all together, but as far as the alternative, NOONE in U.S. history has been as damaging to America as Obama has. That's stone cold fact.
The fundamental difference between the parties is this. Both of them are run by corrupt bureaucrats, but what the republican party claims to and is meant to stand for is generally good and pro-American. The democratic party is not only represented by disgustingly corrupt people, but its supporters and advocates are so dangerously ignorant that they will support blatantly anti-american, destructive policies with a proven track record of destroying countries...that's why so many radical left wing liberals today are socialists and communists, that's why they support carbon taxes and other ridiculous ideas to change the earths climate (the earth has always gone through cooling and heating periods, this is nothing new), that's why they not only support the legalized mass murder of innocent children, but think taxpayers should be forced to fund it...the list goes on and on.
With Romney or any other such candidate in office, much of the horrendously damaging policies of the Obama admin. would never move forward, because he wouldn't be able to get re-elected if they did. His base wouldn't accept him if they did.
With Obama, his base consists of people that are dangerously naive, ignorant, stupid or just plain corrupt. He can pile up more debt in one term than every previous president in US history combined, violate civil liberties more than any other president, be the most divisive man in US history making friend turn against friend on account of his horrid policies, and just plain do every possible thing to weaken America...and his base will just keep cheering him on anyway.
Joe Biden said in his own words that a one world government is necessary (and this is not some way out there conspiracy theory, you can look it up, those were his words). Do you know what you'd have to usher something like that in? Weaken the strongest nations so there is no dominant world superpower. Make people as reliant upon the government as humanly possible...that's exactly what the curret liberal democrat/radical communist agenda is designed to do.
Obama isn't entirely responsible for it, but he's advancing America's destruction at the most rapid rate of any president ever...and his cheerleaders are either oblivious to this fact, or simply don't care.
+++by His wounds we are healed. - Isaiah 53:5+++
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iroquoisjoe
10 years ago
I meant to ask you, Banesy:
a. who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?
b. who do you think you will wind up voting for in 2016?
c. who would have been your ideal candidate for president in 2008 and 2012...out of all known politicians of any party or independent standing?
d. who is your ideal candidate for 2016?
On November 6, 2012...God blessed America
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herbsuperb
10 years ago
a. who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?
b. who do you think you will wind up voting for in 2016?
c. who would have been your ideal candidate for president in 2008 and 2012...out of all known politicians of any party or independent standing?
d. who is your ideal candidate for 2016?
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Big step up from Obama.
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FirstBlood1982
10 years ago
Hermain Cain, Ben Carson, Ron Paul, Rand Paul...all would be atleast decent candidates (although West lost quite a bit of credibility by not opposing the new NDAA provisions).
Romney is a businessman that became wealthy and successful by knowing how to balance budgets, we need a balanced buget. Obama has proven irrefutably to be the worst possible option to do this as he piled up more debt in a single term than had been piled up throughout the entire history of the nation before that. Whatever flaws he may have had, there's no reasonable way to say Obama was a better option.
"Big step up from Obama."
Considering the damage he has done, just about anyone would be.
I voted for the most viable option of keeping someone that I knew was dangerous away from office in 2008 and 2012, whether I felt they were the best option or not. I can't just make every decision as an idealist, I have to consider possibilities and probabilities.
You will keep clinging to the notion that Obama is better than whatever option opposed him at the time because you're a radical leftist that will ALWAYS support the most radically liberal option, regardless of how damaging it's been proven to be.
Oh, and I wasn't anti-liberal at all until Obama showed up. I used to be fairly liberal and hated the Bush admin. throughout his time in office, I didn't think anybody could make him seem good by comparison...until Obama showed up and pushed me as far away from liberal policies and ideologies as possible, with the help of his sociopathic, disgustingly ignorant, morally corrupt fan base.
+++by His wounds we are healed. - Isaiah 53:5+++
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iroquoisjoe
10 years ago
you're a radical leftist that will ALWAYS support the most radically liberal option
You dam right! Well actually I don't know how radical my stances are. Polls show that most Americans are to the left of even the current administration on what they want...so I don't know if I (or people like me) am really all that far out.
regardless of how damaging it's been proven to be.
You can't even get most conservatives to solidly agree on your proofs...so yeah, to swing left leaning America...well...
I used to be fairly liberal
Really? Give me some of the "liberal" ideals you espoused.
BTW....tell me what you like about Ron Paul's foreign policies.
On November 6, 2012...God blessed America
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