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Why would he allow them to record...


...what he was saying, while at the same time insisting they don't use it?

And then, why would they use it? It seems like the message is supposed to be that because he isn't flawless, he is somehow as bad as con men like Uri Geller. Randi doesn't represent that he never lies. What he encourages is the confidence that there is always an explanation. That reality is governed by knowable laws, and 'paranormal' events do not exist. Geller encourages people to disbelieve the truth, to indulge fantasy and pretend like anything they imagine is real. Randi is helping equip people to deal with the world and life - Geller is enabling people who use escapism to avoid it.

When Randi deceives, it's for someone's betterment, but the movie seems to present it as hypocrisy. It isn't.

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agreed, I thought it was very ethically wrong for the filmmaker to assure him he wouldn't use that portion, and then to include it. The man is afraid his life partner of 25 years might go to jail and they blithely lie to him!

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agreed, I thought it was very ethically wrong for the filmmaker to assure him he wouldn't use that portion, and then to include it. The man is afraid his life partner of 25 years might go to jail and they blithely lie to him!


You guys are a bit impatient there to have turned the movie off or walked out of the theatre?

It said in the credits that he allowed the filmmaker to use ALL footage. My guess is after the dust has settled, he thought nothing would matter now.

Next time when a doc is ending, or a movie based on true events/story, watch until credits start rolling :)

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I you watch the credits, it's stated that he allowed them to use ALL of the interview material.

Who controls the past, controls the future.
Who controls the present, controls the past.

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If you watch the credits, it's stated that he allowed them to use ALL of the interview material.


Exactly.

He obviously didn't want it used at the time it was recorded but changed his mind later on.


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"but the movie seems to present it as hypocrisy. It isn't." It is absolutely hypocritical Yes everyone lies an most people have some secrets. The point is what Gellar does is no worse than what "Jose" did. Randi said he trusted them not to use that footage and I think that was wrong on the filmmaker's part but it said in the end he allowed them to use all the footage so he could have changed his mind on that.

Same thing we do every night try to take over the world

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The point is what Gellar does is no worse than what "Jose" did.


Nonsense!

Deyvi was a gay immigrant terrified of being sent back to his home for fear of his LIFE! URI GELLER has admitted that he is a fraud (recently) and used this fraud to lie to people for financial benefit. If Uri was attempting to save his life from horrific prejudice and potential physical harm it would have been understandable!

But like Popoff, Uri was tricking people for his financial gain and who know what kind of harm he did. The only harm Randi and Deyvi did was to deny a guy a passport. I'm not saying that was OK, but it pales in comparison to what Geller and creeps like Popoff do and did!!!

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How did Gellar defraud people out of money? They pay to see his shows. That's their choice and it doesn't really ruin their lives. Popoff did real harm, and so did Jose. He did more than just "deprive someone of a passport". He stole his identity, that is a serious offense and there is no excuse for it.

Same thing we do every night try to take over the world

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What if that was an act that he intended on being included from the moment he said it? The entire thing felt carefully orchestrated and deliberate.

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