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For all the people here: This is not about the genocide


The movie isn't about any so called genocide. This movie is about a man who is searching for his family. In the movie there are no indications towards a so called genocide. Yes there are killings of Armenians, but the movie doesn't say if this is systematically or not. For something to be a genocide this must be systematically and planned by the government. The movie doesn't give answer to the question: Was there an Armenian genocide or not? Don't try to make this a movie about your own historical view.

This a nice movie about a man who is searching for his family.

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It is about the genocide without calling it a genocide. The images speak for themselves. It's about other things too, for sure. The genocide is only about a third of the film. And the turks are not shown as universally bad. Politically correct there are bad turks and good turks. Killing turks and helping turks. Turks as perpetrators and turks as victims. And the central Armenian Christian character is not squeaky clean either and does morally questionable things, plus he becomes an atheist. If only the Americans were so lucky. They are shown as redneck gun happy savages or worse, antisemitic native Indian women raping bastards (the rail workers).

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I guess by the same token you could say the Diary of Ann Frank or the Pianist is not about the Holocaust. This is a human story within the Armenian Genocide

As far a systematic and planned by government, the overwhelming consensus in peer reviewed academia is it was. Virtually all academics agree except for the handful of tattered western historians (half dozen at most) who do deny it have worked for Turkish state intuitions, where acknowledging the facts will kill your career. The denialists use the same exact methods as the denialists of the Holocaust of the Jews.

What is at the heat of the denial is a fear and lack of confidence endemic in Turkey along with ultra ultra nationalists who are thankfully slowly disappearing.

I am Turkish descent, spent 13 of my life in Turkey, have two US masters degrees, and an active supporter of Turkey in many things.

you should go to gatherings of educated Turkish Americans. All of us with a high education and under 60- years old have no problem acknowledging this as a genocide.

Very old guys with restaurants and NO EDUCATION, and typically extremely racist, bitterly cling to the idea that it was not an a genocide.

Stop feeding racism in Turkey by denying it.

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not true mr murad23. a lot of young turks living in my country (i live in belgium) for example, with an education, completely deny there was ever a genocide. It was simply a war they say, but never a genocide.

- "is this the secret headquarters of the gestapo?"
- "It was"

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