For any person that wants to point to this movie as a reason to enforce gun control, you are wrong. What that school needed was an armed security guard, a locked door policy, and possibly some security cameras. He wouldn't have made it inside, even if he did he would have been met with equal force.
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You Americans disgust me. You guys just don't get it. Your solution to every problem is a gun, and if the problem is a gun itself then your solution is to add even more guns.
Don't you ever wonder why school shootings are an exceptionally American phenomenon and rarely, if ever, occur in other developed countries? And why when "mass" shootings do occur in these countries, the casualties are almost always miniscule in comparison?
There is a huge problem in America that nobody seems to want to acknowledge or deal with, and GUNS are at the very heart of this problem.
Guns, and the violence that comes with guns, is simply hardwired into the American DNA. This film accurately portrays the experience of many kids growing up all over the states. Everybody and their mother owns a gun. Handling a weapon and learning to fire it is a rite of passage, just as much as learning to ride a bike or fixing your first flat tire. For most kids, finding and getting their hands on a firearm is easier than finding or getting their hands on alcohol or drugs. They are everywhere.
There were almost 300 "mass" shootings in the United States this year. Almost one for every single day of the year. Just 3 days ago a kid walked into his Oregon college and killed 9 people, wounding countless others. As usual, the debate over gun control legislation has been ignited. As usual nothing at all will change. These shootings have almost become an American tradition, as synonymous with your country as burgers, Hollywood, or football.
It makes me so *beep* angry, and I cannot understand for the life of me why people like you are still content with innocent people being massacred every other day, and feel like nothing needs to change.
Maybe one of these days you will understand when it is your family member who is senselessly gunned down in one of these mass killings. Maybe then you will understand what it feels like to lose your loved one to such a senseless act of violence, knowing something could have been done to prevent it beforehand. I hope for your sake you don't ever have to feel that pain.
Agreed,
I would add, anyone who thinks that armed security guards in schools and other public places is the answer needs to travel to countries where there are armed guards in public places - it ain't all that pretty! I don't want to live in an increasingly militarized world.
You want to discuss me? Then I guess I'm digusting. Pandoras box has been opened, and there is no going back. I am living in the real world, not some fantasy where guns never existed.
What I described is the EXACT situation I grew up in. Guess how many shootings happened at my school.
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For any person that wants to point to this movie as a reason to enforce gun control, you are wrong.100% agree with that, but I believe that with owning guns comes responsibility. Part of that responsibility is keeping your guns locked in a safe place (gun safe) or have trigger locks on them, esp when you have children around.
Armed security guard??? You man, are part of the problem. That would've just ended up with someone who clearly needed psychological aid dead. The solution is studying mental illness and learning to identify it early. That is how you stop mass killings. Not more guns.
shareYeah, just watched this and must say I agree with you. I am originally from the south and grew up in a hunting family with a slew of guns in the home (as a child they were displayed in a gun rack in the living room and another gun rack in my dad's pickup, later in life they were moved to a large, very secure locked gun safe in the garage) and even though I have no real issue with ethical hunting for meat (though it's never appealed me to do so personally), the idea that ANOTHER guy with a gun might be a solution to the problem presented in this movie is utterly stupid.
This young man was tormented from early childhood. He was alone and afraid all the time. He was bullied and tortured at school and at home and even his teachers--who were aware of much of it--managed to blame and humiliate HIM instead of dealing with the bullies who were actually to blame. If there had been an armed security guard at the school on that final day, all that would have happened is either Harlan or the security guard would have ended up dead too. The answer to violence is NOT more violence. That just perpetuates the cycle. The answer is to actually RESPOND when you see someone being abused. Support the victim. when you see the poor kid talking to himself and failing all his classes, don't just shake your head and say "he's doing it again." Intervene and get the poor kid some help. Don't wait for the sh!t to hit the fan and THEN try to do something, because at that point the best you can hope for is to contain the violence.
Also for the OP to say that cameras (or a security guard) would have prevented Harlan from entering the school that day is wrong. He was a student and had every right to be there. Yes he walked in with a gun in his hands because he felt no reason to hide it, but if there had been guards or cameras at the entrance to his school, he would have just stashed it in a bag or something until he was inside. And no one would have looked at him twice--because no one HAD looked at him twice even when he was being bullied.
Armed security guard??? You man, are part of the problem. That would've just ended up with someone who clearly needed psychological aid dead. The solution is studying mental illness and learning to identify it early. That is how you stop mass killings. Not more guns.
shareSo many naive, emotional comments.
It's already illegal to shoot people. Additional laws aren't necessary. All the gun laws, "Gun Free Zone" signs, etc. of the craziest leftist's wet dreams won't stop criminals, terrorists, and psychos from doing what they do. Guns and ammunition used to be easily available to anyone, even through mail-order, and there were hardly any gun control laws, yet there were no school shootings, no mass shootings. Now there are many gun control laws, and guns and ammo are not nearly as easy to get as they once were, yet there are mass shootings nearly every week. We have a criminal, terrorist, and psycho problem, not a gun problem. Bad guys will always be able to get guns, no matter what the government does to prevent it, because they don't abide by laws, or do what they're told to do. The only thing further gun legislation would do would be penalize law-abiding gun owners, who aren't the problem. It would accomplish nothing.