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Does communist Jackie really deserve any more success in the west?


It's difficult to believe ANY western filmmakers would want to work with him in light of his full-blown membership in the Chinese Communist Party, and the absolute and wisespread hatred he has engendered in the three places that GAVE HIM his fame and fortune: Hong Kong, Taiwan and America. I know Renny Harlin's just a journeyman these days (but still a strong action director), but still, why hitch your pony to this wagon? Then again, maybe Harlin's the best Chan can do at this point!

For those who haven't been keeping score, here's a refresher on Jackie's escapades since 2008, when he took his career to the Mainland, cozied up to his new puppetmasters, and never looked back:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/01/10/the-anti-americanism-of-jackie-chan/

and more . . .

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kevintang/jackie-chan-offends-chinese-netizen#.uc2WjqgN6

and more . . .

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jackie-chan-communist-430569

I could go on.

We should still love his old movies. They're great. Everything he's done since 2008 has been to please his communist overlords, and should therefore be approached with caution and judged accordingly. Even Skiptrace, frankly.

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Personally, I could give a crap about Jackie's political beliefs. All that I care about is if it's a good movie or not.

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No one cares.

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How many time are you going to post the same old *beep*

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If you think America is truly a democratic country and China is truly a communist country, you're one seriously ignorant little fool. Also, America is so in debt to China. America owes China so much money, that America is practically China's beeatch.

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American actors are big in China too. Movie goers leave politics out. Anyway, whatever country you happen to grow up in, you get brain-washed by your country's propaganda. We are taught that our way is the best, but you don't become the #1 power in the world by being Mother Theresa.

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Great theory! Then I suppose you can explain why big movies like Transformers and Independent Days all bears Chinese symbols?

If you invest on movies targeting your own country'market, wouldn't you kiss ass some to help you gain access to production and sales?


Classics are names that everyone heard, yet most have never seen!!

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Yeah - I don't think his political ideology has anything to do with it. Not should that preclude anyone making money in the west and elsewhere.

Your question was made even more ridiculous by queering if he 'deserves' it because he is a communist. Does the capitalist USA deserve to make heaps of money in the communist China/Vietnam? The war between communism and capitalism is dead - we now starting to see that political ideologies had nothing to do with it - it was all about dominating the world. Russia is no longer communist, but USA and Russia are going at it as if there was no tomorrow. USA keeps expending its bases, and Russia is now countering USA on various fronts.

In the end, I do agree with you that Jackie Chan's films have all been horrible as of late - perhaps even longer than that. But communism had nothing to do with - there were/are many great communist actors/directors. Jackie Chan has gotten old - and while age at times helps some actors/directors, it does major damage to others. Jackie Chan falls firmly in the latter camp.

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