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Wow the shade of it all!


I see what the writers are doing. Twins separated at birth. Sarah went to the government and Helena went to the church. Helena ends up becoming a mentally underdeveloped, religious nutjob who ends up killing clones and stabbing her birth mother in the stomach. Sarah turns out to be a smart woman with compassion, spunk, and sass. I see the message the writers are trying to convey. The SHADE of it all. The SHAADE. Sip that tea writers sip it with your pinkies pointed.

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Helena went to the church. Helena ends up becoming a mentally underdeveloped, religious nutjob who ends up killing clones and stabbing her birth mother in the stomach.
The scientists have their own set of problems, and they are the real villains of the series.

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Are you saying that the overarching message of the show is that churches are bad and government is good? It must hurt your brain to reinterpret a show about motherhood, identity and geneticists that way. It isn't anti-Christian propaganda, though it doesn't paint geneticists in the best light (until you remember Cosima).

Besides which, Helena wasn't driven to psychosis and trained to kill by priests, and Sarah has definite problems with respecting authority and self-control; the story begins with her stealing cocaine from her drug-dealing boyfriend. One of the many birth-related issues explored is this show is parenting and the absence thereof. Many of the clones suffer due to distant or absent parents and the blurring/substitution of doctors and scientists for parents.

Helena talks strangely because English is her second language, not because she's uneducated. Her cross is that she's an outsider with experiences and pain that no one else possesses.

And how exactly does Sarah "go to the government"?

I suppose that someone who had a clue might complain that the series seems to be anti-science, but I wouldn't distill a work of fiction to a single message. If a series is really that simple and manipulative, it's probably not worth watching.

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I'm sensing somehow that you will probably never get past season one, if that's your takeaway....

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It's an "adapt to survive" narrative, each clone is shown to have developed attributes beneficial or essential to the environment they grew into. Cosima is a kickass medical genius. Alison is a tightass soccer mom. Sarah is a smartass con-artist. And Helena is a badass psychopath.

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There's no such thing as the establishment. Everyone knows that!

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kickass ... tightass ... smartass ... badass
this show is greatass

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