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Who killed the dog?

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His daughter

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It's possible that he killed the dog; but it is not certain one way or another. Thus far, his ire had been directed at the Church, whereas killing the dog appeared to be personal. He is probably the most logical suspect, but not the only one. I figure it was either the Daughter or the murderer-maybe both working together. Ill have to see it again.

The bartender would have made no sense; and even after the incident at the pub it would have been a stretch.

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Is this a joke, or is there some explanation for why she would have done it?

I'm English,and if there's anything more deplorable than our cooking,it's our lovemaking

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Is there an "explanation" for why any character would want to hurt this Priest? Even the Killer's motives are obscure. All we have is a cast of characters who are angry for various reasons and we can only speculate regarding what they may be capable of. The Daughter was the only character in movie to hold a personal grudge against the Priest (for leaving her). She was also mentally unstable; having attempted suicide various times. Maybe she was jealous of the dog?

The Bartender was an angry, desperate man. But why kill a dog for no reason? He was, perhaps, mad at the Church; but lashing out by killing a Priest's dog? What is the point? If they were neighbors and the dog kept him awake at night I could see it. But there was nothing in the film to support this. If that is what the Director was getting at, there should have been something in the film to suggest why the Bartender would kill a dog and not act out in any other way.





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Is there an "explanation" for why any character would want to hurt this Priest?


Yes, because he is a genuinely good man.

Even the Killer's motives are obscure.


Not really, he explains to the priest why he has decided to kill him.

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Jack. I'm amazed people think this is a mystery.

Jack denied beating his wife, but he then admits to it in that scene on the beach. His earlier denial about that is identical to his denial about the dog "I would never do something like that!"

He gives that evil little smirk when he asks Lavelle "Did you cry." No I think it's pretty clear that Jack is someone who denies responsibility for his own actions, and his denial about the dog is consistent with the way that character was written.

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The truth is that the movie never gives an answer. Your solution does make more sense to me than any other.

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Era el hombre negro enojado que mató al perro.

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I agree.

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First of all, race, nationality, and culture are not all the same thing, and second, wtf? You need to learn to think critically, and for yourself, rather than spouting some neonazi/nationalist crap by rote. So is it that you beleive that only black people are capable of killing a dog? Because I'll tell you one thing, you stand against centuries of history, documentation, evidence, and all logic. You make yourself sound stupid. It's not about race, it's about being a sociopath or psychopath, and that has no boundaries, whether you are talking culture or nationality, or race. Just from a statistical basis, as it is set in Ireland, in reality, it's more likely that an Irishman did it. As I said, sociopathy knows no boundaries.

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This.

Thats what the whole point of the ending with the daughter was. He was all she had left in the world, and the only thing that was keeping her together, and he took him away because of what some other priests had done. The final scene is about Jack being confronted with what he had done and not being able to escape from the reality of it.

It's all a metaphor for the way the world is responding to religion. There was some heinous *beep* done back in the day (the missions were mentioned at one point by Simon) and there was some heinous *beep* done recently. Then theres the fact the its all a bit ridiculous. That isn't what matters tho. What matters is the people who needed it.

If Freddie (the serial killer) really just needed to be understood and if he had found religion he might not have acted out the way he did.

The writer didn't seem to have anyone who cared about it him at all and was obviously afraid of dying.

Veronica needed a moral center.

Theresa needed comfort.

Milo needed...to get laid...Im still thinking about that one.

Michael desperately needed love.

Frank needed an outlet for the terrible things he had seen.

After Jack killed Father James we see every single one of them (and probably more that I can't remember) either suffering or following through with their sins. This is the reality of a world without Father James. Then we see Jack dealing with this reality.

At least thats how I saw it. Great film tho.

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Totally agree. He lied about not killing the dog, and appeared to take some enjoyment out of the fact that the priest cried over the dog's death.

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He had an enjoyment because dogs death let him proove his point that priest cared more about a dog than about child rape. There is no proof of who killed the dog, but I see no point for Jack to lie about it before killing the priest, he even confessed about hitting his wife though he didn't have to.

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He didn't care more about the dog than child rape. When you hear a story on the news that is so bad, and you don't know the victims personally, it is normal for the human mind to have trouble grasping the enormity of the situation. Most people do not cry when they hear of horrible things happening on the news or in the newspaper- because they do not personally know the victims, and because without some sort of emotional filter in this world nobody would be able to function, as horrible *beep* happens constantly.

It is normal for someone to cry if someone they know- even a dog- dies. The fact that the dog was murdered for being his dog would have only led to more pain.

But it's silly to conclude from that that James cared more about his dog than child rape victims. That's far too simplistic.

"We all go a little mad sometimes." - Norman Bates

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You're right. I thought it was obvious too. He's a liar but he can't help asking about how it affected him.

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The movie is a parable in many ways. It's open-ended. We never find out who burned down the church or who killed the dog. There's a reason for that, and it ties in with the scene where someone is talking with the priest about "your church" (his church) having been burned down. The priest corrects him: "It's OUR church." The whole movie is about how broken and sinful ALL of us are. Just as, even though particular Roman individuals nailed Jesus to the cross, it was ALL of us who condemned him to die.

The flip side of that is that all of us are called to be channels of grace and mercy to each other. All of us can prop each other up. Even a good priest needs propping up. When Father James is getting ready to run away from his problems (the airport scene), it is the young French woman, a layperson -- and one who has lost her entire family, no less -- who, by her example of trust in God, inspires Father James to go back and face the music.

The movie COULD have told us who burned the church and who killed the dog -- but it didn't. The message is: Those things could have been done by ANY of those broken, angry people.

One of the main themes I saw in the movie was the same theme that runs through Dostevsky's "The Brothers Karamazov"(which is also a murder mystery, come to think of it!) -- the theme of "We are all responsible for each other."

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"The flip side of that is that all of us are called to be channels of grace and mercy to each other. All of us can prop each other up. Even a good priest needs propping up."

Beautifully said. I think this is the point most people are missing with their assessment of this movie. This community of people were spiritually diminished (and I don't necessarily mean religious wise). There were a lot of unhappy and lonely people who didn't try to prop up others. They were too busy waiting to be propped up themselves.

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But the movie did tell us who burned down the church. The killer didn't contradict the priest when he accused him of it. That's as good as a confession in those circumstances

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Thank you for this post.

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Thank you for this post.

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Jack did. Though he never actually retracts his denial, its impossible to read the goading of Father James over it as an implicit admission of guilt.

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There is no obvious explanation in the film but the arguments presented here for Jack are pretty strong.

I came to conclusion of Milo in order to curb his murderous inclinations and for not having gotten satisfaction from his conversation with Father James about it. Although it seemed as though he was joining the army at the end so there are holes in that argument.

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I seem to remember that Jack could be a brutal man with his wife, and the dog had been brutally killed. Looks like Jack was giving James a little grisly "help" in winding up his affairs. The barman seemed angry too, but not like Jack.

Poor Bruno. I know he was old but still.

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Beloved dogs in these sort of movies ... it's like they're wandering around with targets on their coats. Sad as it is, and it is sad, like the way events play out in this movie, it never comes as much of a surprise.🐭

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Beloved dogs in these sort of movies ... it's like they're wandering around with targets on their coats.


I'm guessing that the original Cape Fear (1962 version) is responsible for this trope.

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Even though he denies it, I think it's strongly implied that it was Jack. As someone else mentioned, he also initially denied beating his adulterous wife (or even objecting to her adultery).

On the other hand, there were several other people in the town who clearly resented Father James - the bartender, the African, the doctor, etc., but none of them seemed to do so to the point where they would do something like that to him.

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Who killed the dog? the possible answer is...

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It may have been a further cry for attention, though I may have missed why Kelly's character tried to commit suicide beforehand..

Did she resent her father's religious commitment, over family?


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