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Let's be honest - porn and jacking is better sometimes


Sometimes it is easier to just throw some porn on and take care of yourself.

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Right. But for him it was "sometimes" it was all the time. That was the problem.

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Actually the biggest problem was the women Don Jon took to bed. While they were good looking save Esther... none of them had even basic sex skills, and were only interested in Don Jon "performing" for them. So of course masturbating to porn was always more enjoyable for him.

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Actually, that was only some of the women. Jon was never completely satisfied because they weren't exactly like porn stars to the tee. That's why we hear a voice over of him talking about she has this, but not that; she does this, but not that. When making a film, everything in there is there for a reason. The hooking up montage was to show that regardless of how good a woman was in bed or how great she looked, if she didn't meet all of his requirements, he wasn't satisfied.

If you think back to what Esther said, it was like she wasn't even there when they first had sex, which was a major reason he was unable to truly get off while having sex. Jon put that distance between him and the women. Jon said that some women had breasts, but no butt or vice versa--they would do everything except go down or expected him to do the same. Problem was: if he couldn't watch then it wasn't enjoyable. See the issue: it was all about him.

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Jesus Christ lady. What is wrong with you?

Please name one woman who gave him a decent blow job. Seriously... which one?
I want a list of his partner with details!!! You really have a serious problem with the truth.

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I think you lack comprehension skills. Say if he got a phenomenal blow job, but if she lacked boobs and a nice butt, Jon couldn't receive full pleasure, she had to be the complete package.

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No I think you are the one lacking in comprehension skills.

Of course getting a phenomenal blow job from a woman (no tits or ass) you are not physically attracted does not lead to great sex... duh... for any dude, not just Don Jon. The reality that you keep avoiding is that all of those women Don Jon picked up had great bodies and out of all of them only one gave him a bj and that was half hearted. And none of them wanted anything other than missionary. That's the issue here. They were all bad in bed!


You really need to pay attention to the movie.

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Ironic that you are saying that I wasn't paying attention.

If Jon brought them home, minus Esther, that was because they were at least an 8 physically. So there was attraction, but if she only had 90% of a porn star's characteristics, he was not satisfied--it needed to be 100%.

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What? Not only did not pay attention to the movie. You also failed to pay attention in math class.

None of the girls had 90% of a porn star characteristics. They couldn't screw nor suck! DJ thought "sequins" was a 9 and that Barbara was a 10. Those two probaly looked better than some of the porn stars to him. But they both were horrible in bed as the narration clearly states. It even goes so far to say that since Barbara was so hot she wasn't going to give blow jobs.

None of the girls in the film gave DJ any more than 2 of the things he said wanted. Esther didn't have porn tits and ass, but to her credit she did ride him cowgirl. The others... nope!

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I thought Esther was gorgeous.

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To each their own. I've never liked Julianne Moore, and thought she looked even more hideous in this movie.

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Hideous? Wow. I mean it's one thing not to find her unattractive, but to call her "hideous".

There really is nothing for me to even say to that.

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I actually think Julianne Moore can be gorgeous in movies, if done right. I mean look at something like Magnolia - she was smoking hot even with all the psychoses and crying and being kind of a bitch. But in this movie they made her look so bad in my opinion, especially in the last scene when she and Jon are enjoying a day out in a park - she looks terrible imo. But maybe that was intentional - to show that he wasn't shallow anymore and didn't only go for girls with tonnes of makeup.

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See, and I thought they went out of their way in the end to make Esther look softer in the end. I guess I just never saw any intention in the film to make her unappealing. Just a radically different type of beautiful than the scorching, lava hot Barbara.

But Esther definitely wasn't suppose to be a "cougar" type glamour queen. Have you seen the new trailer for David Cronenberg's Map to the Stars? She plays a more traditionally sexy type in that.

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I'm sorry, but she did. I actually cringed when I saw her on screen in this movie. She looked really, really bad.

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LOL. So it was all the fault of the women?

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I'll take a blowjob ;)

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If getting a good one of those from your girl is "easier"... please share your secret.

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Agreed. I wouldn't want to be addicted like Jon, but an equal balance of both would be fine.

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Yes but it causes people to become disconnected. If you enjoy jerking off while watching other people have sex more than real sex then you are an addict and the direct result of this. That is exactly the point.

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what do you mean "sometimes"? It's easier all the time, its simple, find a flick, pull out the potion and get to it. If that *beep* is sometimes challenging then you got a problem.

Now, there are sometimes where the motivation is lacking, like when you meet a girl that you cant stop thinking about, or if you've just got into a relationship, etc.

But its never as hard as finding a girl, then going through all the *beep* it takes to *beep*.

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I think that people need to realize that porn/masturbation and real sex with women are two completely different things with no overlap that fulfill different needs. Even when I'm in consistent long term relationships, I still find myself choking the chicken almost as much as when I'm single (but I've never lived with a girl before, so I imagine it might be harder then).

With real sex, it obviously feels better, and gives you the real thing, with a real connection to another human being, but obviously with porn you can do things your way, on your terms, with the hottest girl that you can find online. Unless you're Leonardo DiCaprio or Tom Brady, you're not going to be able to find a hotter girl in real life that you can online.

They have both their place. I've never bought into the assumption that too much porn ruins you for real women. Jerking it doesn't give you the same personal connection and social benefits of a relationship.

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porn, or using your hand, will never be better than being with the real thing, ever.

Being with another human being cannot ever be replaced by watching a video online of two people doing it.
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I know what you are trying to say, you are trying to say that sometimes watching porn and taking care of yourself is EASIER to do. Not Better.... EASIER.

And I can understand where you come from, sex is a physical activity that takes a lot of energy and a lot of time as well.
watching porn takes nothing, no energy, no commitment. nothing at all

I Wish Jon stopped saying that porn was better than the real thing, he should have said that porn was easier to deal with

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As one poster said above, the dude was having whack sex. Only missionary? No good bj's? No money shots? Sounds like he's never had a good lay. If I only had simple penetration all the time then I would be beating it all the time too. On the other hand, as another poster said, porn and real life sex both have their place. Even though I have really good sex, there's nothing like popping on my favorite porn and going at it. They're both awesome. Of course, I prefer sex, but porn is still awesome and also maybe your sex life doesn't accommodate all of your fantasies. How else are you supposed to fulfill that need?

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