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Girls, did this movie make you self-conscious?


I'm not a girl, but I imagine that if I was, I would be shrinking in my seat during this movie (at least the first half). The 1-10 number rating system, the brutal critique the guys level at the girls (tits 4, ass 7, ugly face), the "going home with twos and threes because they're open minded" speech, all the males in this movie acting like complete meat-hounds (including and especially the Dad)... I know it's all tongue-in-cheek but DAMN, women self-scrutinize enough as it is without having to sit through these guys trashing all these (honestly beautiful) women like they're worthless fish heads.

Doesn't that GET to you, or are you already used to it? I just want to know if women start feeling like crap whenever movies put all these "dimes" on screen and have the male leads drool over them (even though the girls are total airheads), while they completely ignore and ridicule any girl that doesn't look like a supermodel.

Again, I know it's the point of the movie but I think girls already have it really hard due to the media bombarding them with the idea that female self worth = tits, ass, face, waistline.

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I personally have a healthy sense of detachment from movie standards and their ridiculousness. Also, part of the point of this movie was to make the male characters into completely shallow caricatures. It's satirical. I know some guys with high standards and their 1-10 scales would be extremely kind to just about every woman shown up close in that club. Point being, most real men aren't nearly that critical. I'm aware of that, so I don't get offended. It's all make-believe. It makes me a tiny bit self conscious, but only because I wish I could look more like the women they were trashing. My mentality wasn't, "OMG, if that's a 4/10, what does that make ME?" It was more, "Wow. These guys have such warped standards and it's hilarious!" Most regular men would be drooling over those women.

That being said, I know a lot of women aren't like me and would indeed take it personally. This is why so many men experience the phenomenon of their girlfriends holding themselves to Hollywood standards and getting into crying fits over a few stretch marks or not having the bare minimum BMI. It really just takes a sense of detachment as well as logically reminding yourself that movies do NOT equal real life. Actresses have all kinds of "help" in the looks department regular women don't have. To top it off, hair and makeup and costuming teams are working on these women for a good amount of time before any shoot. It all comes down to logically reminding yourself of that.

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Largely what Radio said. If someone really rates people like that, I'm inclined to not care much what they think of me, and I feel I already know how I'd probably feel about their company and intelligence level. I mean seriously; who does this in real life? Twelve-year-old boys and douchebags who are still twelve mentally, that's who.

As far as the movie, it's Hollywood. They have a short time to get characters set up, so the rating thing quickly explained to the audience that he's shallow, appearance-focused, and 'young' in an overall life way in the beginning. It's not something I take as a personal comment at all, so no; I am not offended or made self-conscious by it in the least.

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Totally did not offend me at all because in my 20s I did the same thing to guys LOL!

By all means move at a glacial pace, you know how that thrills me.

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As did most other women, they're just lying if they said they didn't.

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I didn't feel self conscious at all. Granted, I haven't considered myself a girl in a long time so I am more inured to this than my younger sisters. As a female who grew up in NJ and went to these same kind of clubs on a regular basis I have seen everything depicted in the movie hundreds of times.

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I agree with all of the above. Sometimes it can scare me as a younger girl to think "do guys really do this?" But luckily I can remind myself that it's Hollywood and no one's THAT critical.

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Women have been objectified by men since time began so nothing new there. I would never have been attracted to Don Jon & his buddies so their comments did not faze me at all.

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The only thing disgusting to me is knowing that guys do in fact talk like this in real life it's repulsive and offensive to be reduced to such shallow scrutiny. Worst are those guys who just listen to it but don't teach their friends some manners. It's not their job to teach manners? It all starts with men teaching men how to act. A woman can't do anything there :/

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Yep. Same as women who objectify men based on their wallet size. Disgusting and repulsive!

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Having it focus more on the male pov and his journey, I think it helped me from taking it personally. I also saw some dating truths in it as well, especially with being addicted to romance films and how the father of a specific ex used to behave around me.

The rating thing doesn't bug me, probably because this seems like something that's either for younger guys or in private. The magazines shown (in the scene where he's in the grocery store checkout line) are a good example of the age of women that this best applies to, as well.

I've also known a few guys that had this type of porn addiction - always disappointed with whatever they get and it's one-sided interactions which gets old fast. Hopefully, they'll find someone that gets under their skin and gain more emotional depth.

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It's a freakin movie! Why would someone get self conscious over a movie?

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