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The Christian scientist girl

posted 11 years ago by mmmm_Dean
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I just watched this episode, it reminded me of Grey's when they had the boy, who was unconscious by the way so couldn't tell them what he wanted, that was a Jehovas witness so he couldn't get a blood transfusion and died. That was a very frustrating thing for me to watch so I was really glad to see the doctor treat this girl in spite of her ridiculous religion, I cannot believe any sane person would want their daughter to die for some silly beliefs, how is this even legal?? I think the doctor handled it very well when she came to see him and talked about losing her faith, I was hoping he would advise her to keep her faith but choose a different religion, one that will not get you killed.

I've decided to drop out of society and wear live animals as hats

[–] nitrourea 11 years ago

grey's anatomy would spend an entire episode on this issue and have a miracle that resolves the problem

[–] michinine 11 years ago

I once saw a report about many types of Religious" groups. There was one
who even refuses to take something simple like completely natural strong herbs.
They even don't drink certain teas or consume spices.

In this report they showed part of an old tape of a very young girl dying,
while about 30 people standing around the bed and house praying and crying
like insane people. She was seriously ill and died after 15 hours of severe
pain. Some simple doses of penicillin could have saved her.

I tolerate this sort of religion, but then they have to respect what it is:
Hardcore Anti-Humanist brainwash-ery.

In the episode, he didn't gave her meds. He just pricked her for 5 seconds.
The father was (intentionally?) displayed as an aggressive person who spread
his very subjective and personal religious fears down to his family.

If he would have been portrayed as someone calm who would have accepted his
daughters death because of his believe, the episode would have played out
differently.

[–] ShrinkMD 11 years ago

It's not. An adult with capacity can refuse any medical treatment, but if a doctor believes that the parents of a minor are not acting in the best interest of their child, the doctor has a responsibility to protect the child's interests, even if contrary to the parents' wishes. In a non-emergent, non-life threatening situation this would entail bringing the parents to court. In this case, however, the child's life is imminently at risk and the doctor has the duty administer life saving measures even if the parents refuse. The doc here was right to perform the pericardiocentesis.

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Trust me, I'm a doctor.

[–] masterimmortal 11 years ago

I liked that he did what was necessary. However, I think they too easily glossed over the aftermath. There's no way the parents wouldn't be suspicious of her miraculous recovery. And they would quickly discover the needle mark.

[–] magemaximus 11 years ago

I took it as the parents not caring that Ving did what he did. They really wanted their daughter to live, but they didn't want to break their religion, so they turned a blind eye when she was all better.

[–] mmmm_Dean 11 years ago

Yeah, I think the mom was more torn than the dad and so relieved when her daughter was ok, she just didn't want to know, the dad looked more questioning after the girl was ok and seemed to struggle with questioning the doctor more and just being relieved that she was ok, his relief won out, "don't ask, don't tell".

I've decided to drop out of society and wear live animals as hats

[–] magemaximus 11 years ago

Exactly.

[–] bcowan-2 11 years ago

I had to shut the door on some Jehovah witness the other day. I told them I had 3 transfusions a few years earlier that saved my life and allowed my children to keep their mother so according to them I was already damnned so they were wasting their time! LOL

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[–] androula 11 years ago

*Like*

[–] rufnedge-2 11 years ago

bcowan-2 that's a good one..

the father was really hostile i'm glad he made the right decision to close that curtain and save her life..

the term christian scientist came up on another show i think it was ny er on the OWN channel .. the doctor was like what is that? shouldn't that mean you believe in science and savings lives?

I was in my kitchen cleaning a dish. I heard it, I came out.
... Dane Cook

[–] Mike_Wiggins 11 years ago

That reminds me of...

That man's been hit! Quick! Get him to a hospital!

[Rummaging through wallet]

Wait! This guy is a Christian Scientist! Quick! Get this man to a reading room!

All kidding aside, the problem here is whether a person has the right to cause the death of himself or other family members through the umbrella of religious freedom. For myself, I am really torn. That's because I believe in freedom of expression but I also feel that having a person tell another that they must die through withholding medication or other life saving measures, is another bizarre form of premeditated murder.

Hmm. I can't seem to remember. How exactly did that girl come to be in a hospital in the first place?

"I believe it is peace for our time." Neville Chamberlain(1938)
Mike Wiggins

[–] Yorick_Brown 11 years ago

Hmm. I can't seem to remember. How exactly did that girl come to be in a hospital in the first place?

She was in a horse riding accident.

Take us down and all apart
Cherry Tree
Lay us out on the table

You're sharp alright...

[–] Mike_Wiggins 11 years ago

Thanks Yorick!

You know what they say about memory being the first .... ooooh look at the birdie!

"I believe it is peace for our time." Neville Chamberlain(1938)
Mike Wiggins

[–] unknown_soul278 11 years ago

I will probably get my head ripped off by zealots for this but here goes...

By the most basic definition I am a Christian, but if God or anyone professing to speak for God ever tried to tell me it was wrong to let a doctor do what was medically necessary to to save my child's life I would be telling them where to shove it.

[–] windycheryl 11 years ago

unknown_soul278,
Yeah, have to agree with you. Religion has been the basis for a lot of man's strange decisions for over 6,000 years. Don't expect that to ever change. Maybe people forget that religion is not necessary for a personal relationship with their God.

Take a chance, flip a coin, everything is 50/50

[–] unknown_soul278 11 years ago

I think in a lot of cases religion can actually get in the way of that relationship.

The wild, cruel animal is not behind the bars of a cage. He is in front of it.

[–] windycheryl 11 years ago

unknown_soul278,
You are so right. Love your signature, too.

Take a chance, flip a coin, everything is 50/50

[–] unknown_soul278 11 years ago

Thanks... I wish the general public could see the awful truth in it.

The wild, cruel animal is not behind the bars of a cage. He is in front of it.