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The jury did right the prosecution messed up.


OK I am not a fan of Casey Anthony but I just can't say that she did or didn't murdered her daughter. I don't blame the jury for her acquittal because the burden of proof is on prosecution and they just didn't have enough evidence. They had a lot of speculation but no real evidence. I do believe that she may have found Caylee dead in a pool or something and the got rid of her body which is not that uncommon. Her behavior when Caylee was thought to be missing was not typical but it does happen. Many people go into shock or push things to the back of their mind when they're child dies especially if they feel they could have prevented it.

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Honestly I think even if Caylee accidently drowned (which I dont believe) I think that anyone that can take their childs body and throw it in a trash bag and leave it for bugs and animals to eat while they go out and party for a month and then repeatedly lie about what happened its someone I dont want on this planet and should be put to death.

Anyone that finds their child has been in an accident and their 1st reaction isnt to try and help their child or wanting to put their child to rest in a proper way is a monster and the world would be better off without them.

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I can't believe what I am reading. You think a normal person would go on with their life after their child accidently drowned and they threw them away like garbage? She was a very messed up girl before this happened and while I think George and Cindy Anthony appear to be lovely people, Casey was not born a killer.

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I think Cindy is as nutty as her daughter and they should have thrown her in jail for lying too.

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I didn't say a normal person would do this. People handle things in different ways some cry,some get angry and violent, some just shut down, and some completely lose their mind and push things to the back of their head and act as if nothing ever happened. I said this is NOT typical but it does happen.

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I remember Dr. G saying ..out of all the drowning cases of children she had, all the parents contacted police.. So casey case is not typical.. When a child dies accidently, you don't try and make it look like a murder.. simple as that...

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Everyone is different. She tried to make it look like she was kidnapped not murdered and I'm sure she was hoping the body was never found. The fear of being looked at as a murderer can lead someone to do something like this instead of just telling the truth.

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I completely agree but I'm just saying that they jury is not to blame. She is guilty of something but she can't be convicted without real, hard evidence.

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Not every case needs a blinking sign saying "i did it".. Scott Peterson had way less evidence and he was convicted. Cause the jury actually took the time to piece the case together. Not every case is going to have the hand print or the dna.. it's sometimes just good old common sense needed...

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Common sense is not acceptable evidence for a conviction. This isn't street justice it's a court of law. Scott Peterson's case had plenty of evidence. They couldn't even come up with how she was "murdered". This is why there was not conviction. I hope you never get on a jury for murder cause I guess all it would take is a few pictures of the suspect holding a gun for you to say guilty.

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Shelise Hall, you are one sad person.

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No, email-graz2, your behavior indicates that you are the sad excuse here, to fling this personal insult toward someone you don't even know just because she refuses to share your poorly reasoned opinion. For shame.

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She is a sadistic sociopath, her actions and lies alone do not show an accident or grieving to me!! A true parent who loves their child and is grieving the loss, does not go out and party away while their child lays dead and decomposing in the trunk of their car.


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Put on HLN, there's this new Casey Anthony documentary on, they have this psychiatrist saying, "A mother would be devastated after their child is dead, no mother should be going to hot body contests, or getting tattoos if their child is dead"

Y'know, I could eat a peach for hours

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And I could find a psychiatrist (or several) who would say that such behavior isn't at all unusual. People--mothers and fathers included--grieve differently.

Some (perhaps the majority) may take to their beds as they sludge through the horrifically slow stages of grief. Others will do *whatever* it takes to avoid the process as along as possible. They may drink, immerse themselves in the distractions of work or projects, or take a trip. Most people just do whatever they can to get through it.

When my sister died at 37, I spent the next two months with friends at clubs and bars as often as I could. She was everything to me and I knew I was going to have to deal with her death, eventually, but I wasn't quite ready.

Granted, this was my sister, not my daughter, but grief is grief, as profoundly overwhelming and all-enveloping for me as it was to my parents.

We all have our own ways of coping with things. There is no "normal" or "expected" when it comes to dealing with death. No, there is no psychiatrist worth their training who would make such a blanket assessment; the fact that HLN found one tells me that doctor is one to avoid.

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So you think she didn't kill her daughter? I do.

Y'know, I could eat a peach for hours

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How did she not get convicted on aggravted child abuse? That alone tells me the jury was screwed in the mind.. First degree murder, yes I do agree to put someone to death you got to be 100% sure,...but not aggravted child abuse?? She did not report her daughter missing for 31 days?? She is the mother whose daughter was lying dead inthe swamp... I mean c'mon. Jury was stupid mother fers...

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How did she not get convicted on aggravted child abuse? That alone tells me the jury was screwed in the mind.. First degree murder, yes I do agree to put someone to death you got to be 100% sure,...but not aggravted child abuse?? She did not report her daughter missing for 31 days?? She is the mother whose daughter was lying dead inthe swamp... I mean c'mon. Jury was stupid mother fers...

I wondered myself, she is such a liar with everything that happened. She walks?

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There's a special with Dr. G on too. If her testimony didn't convince the jury, what would?

Also to the poster who says people act in different ways, who else do you know who didn't report their child missing for 30 days? I actually have seen people on crime shows who don't report their children missing - BECAUSE THEY KILLED THEM!

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SHe was found guilty of lying to the police. That was her only conviction.

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They had no evidence that she did anything so how could the convict on aggravated child abuse? I don't think she is guilty but the prosecution botched this case not they jury. They didn't have evidence beyond speculation of what may have happened.

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If you find your child in the pool, you have no idea how long the child has been there, maybe the child could be brought back to life, if you then dont try to get help for your child but instead take your child's body and throw it in garbage bag and let bugs and animals eat it, is that not abuse?

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You don't know what happened in that situation maybe she tried CPR and it didn't work. She wasn't breathing and there was not heartbeat so she felt there was nothing that could have been done. No that would not be abuse. Now if she just sat there and did nothing (which could not be proven nor could it be proven that she died by drowning)then that would be abuse. You don't have to take your child to the hospital some cultures and religions don't even believe in them so not calling an ambulance is technically not a crime or abuse.

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You don't have to take your child to the hospital some cultures and religions don't even believe in them so not calling an ambulance is technically not a crime or abuse.


But putting your child's body in a trash bag and leaving her out in the swamp, where animals and bugs can consume her is not a crime or abuse?

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The act of abuse or neglect results in serious bodily injury or death...you can't harm a dead body. However that is a crime but again they had NO REAL evidence that she did that only speculation.

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You keep using this word 'speculation'. It's called evidence and they had it. Just like they had in the OJ trial.

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lol So how did Casey kill her Because most people still don't know they just know that she did it. Convictions need more than an I just know she did.

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By your logic... throughout time in many civilizations cannibalism was acceptable so jeffrey dahmer never should have been convicted. I mean we dont know maybe those people asked to be eaten... no one can prove otherwise.

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You are obviously dazed and confused because I haven't stated anything remotely close to that. My logic is simple, the prosecution couldn't prove it so she couldn't be found guilty.

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No evidence of abuse? First she did not report her child 31 days.She was her mother care taker.. And lets say we do believe her crock story her child died accidently.. you think placing duck tape around the head and placing her in the woods for animals to feast on is not abuse in some way? She was out partying.. come on.. I just can't deal with people making excuses for her.. it's just I can't take it..

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Why are we talking about an 'accident'? She killed her. There is no way if this child had an accident, Casey would not call 911. She killed her, duck taped her mouth, drove her around in the trunk and threw her away like trash.

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Exactly! If Caylee had died accidentally (by drowning or some other such accident), imo, Casey would have called 911. She was capable of doing so. When Casey was back at her parent's house after being let out of jail on bail, she called 911 when protesters were at the house and throwing coins at the garage door. Oh, Casey was perfectly able to call 911 when she felt SHE was in danger, she was just not capable of doing so when her daughter's life was in danger. She couldn't call 911 when her daughter was "missing" because she knew that she murdered her, imo.

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No one is making excuses. I am simply looking at this from a legal standpoint. These are all the holes in the prosecutions case which is how she go off along with them not having evidence of how exactly she died. I don't know if she is guilty of murder or not but I do think she is guilty of something. Point I am making is the JURY is not to blame here the prosecution dropped the ball. As for the duct tape again no proof just speculation. Her partying I spoke on above take a look. If you can't deal then don't move around. *SHRUG*

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How do you get the duct tape was speculation after Dr G's testimony?

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It was stated during the trial that the duct tape was found with the body. They only speculated that the tape was place over her mouth. This is why they had to digitally impose the tape on Caylee's mouth to show that it would be the right size. It was also stated that there was none of Caylee's DNA in the tape. Again this is a hole in the prosecutions case. I am not saying she is innocent.

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Shelise - one question simple yes or no.

Do you think she did it ? yes or no

I'm not asking if you would have convicted her, just whether or not you think she did it. And don't answer 'I don't know'

I have served on juries before and when you deliberate the first thing you do is take a poll on initial feelings of guilt or innocence and then talk about it.
The mistake the Prosecutors made was going for a death penalty without DNA.

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Yes I do.

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There was no DNA on the duct tape because Casey threw Caylee away in a swamp, and animals, bugs and the elements had 4+ months to eat away at any DNA that might have been left. The duct tape was firmly wrapped around Caylee's skull and knotted in her hair when her body (which was just a skeleton) was finally found.

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So agree with you! Casey was Caylee's mother. Casey and Casey alone was responsible for her welling being, even though they lived with her parents. Casey was the only one who knew Caylee was missing and she didn't report her missing. Casey's parents and brother were trying to track Casey down during the 30+ days that Casey was missing. Casey was the only one lying about Caylee's whereabouts. When her friends asked her where Caylee was, she lied to them and told them she was with her parents. When Casey's parents tried numerous times over the course of that 30 days to track Casey down so they could see Caylee, Casey evaded them. If Casey didn't murder Caylee and she accidentally drowned, why did she sit in jail for 3 years and possibly face the death penalty if Caylee had accidentally drowned? She had a chance to say it was an accident when the police questioned it after her mother Cindy called 911 and reported Caylee missing. Casey's behavior after Caylee went "missing" was consciousness of guilt by her celebratory behavior by going out partying, entering hot body contests and getting a bella vita (the beautiful life) tattoo.

There was enough evidence to convict Casey; however, the jury did not want to take the time to put all of the pieces together. When your child accidentally drowns, you don't put them in garbage bags with duct tape wrapped around their mouths and throw them away in the woods to be eaten by the elements, animals and bugs. Casey and Casey alone was the only one who benefited from Caylee's death. Casey was no longer tied down having to take care of a toddler. Although Casey's family was highly dysfunctional (understatement of the year!), Casey's parents loved Caylee and were desperately searching for her. Cindy called 911 and after Casey was arrested, they questioned her every time they went to visit her in prison to find out Caylee's whereabouts. Whenever Casey's parents questioned Casey about where Caylee was, she threw a tantrum and didn't want to be bothered about where her daughter was.

I personally believe that Casey was guilty of first degree murder, but at the very LEAST, she should have been convicted of aggravated child abuse. I remember reading some of the very few interviews that some of the jurors gave after the verdict, and they said they couldn't convict Casey on the child abuse because they didn't know who had possession of Caylee. WHAT?! Casey was Caylee's mother, so, imo, SHE and she alone was the one responsible for her. I think it muddied the waters that Casey and Caylee lived with Casey's parents, and the defense further exploited that by insinuating that George had something to do with what happened to Caylee, when he did not. I remember reading an interview from one of the jurors shortly after the verdict (it was in People Magazine), and the juror said that in hindsight, he wished now that they would have convicted Casey of aggravated manslaughter of a child. Not that it changes the fact that Casey was acquitted and allowed to walk free, but that juror also said that Casey was a horrible person and they did really want to convict her of something. IMO, the jurors did not know how to apply the law properly when they were deliberating. I remember watching Judge Perry give the jury instructions, and he did not give them in layman's terms where the average person who is not well versed in the law would understand them.

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I do think she did it. Partying w wrong on a moral level. However it is not illegal. It cannot be used as a reason for murder in itself. You cannot convict someone based on a feeling. You have to do it based on evidence alone. They could not even conclude how Caylee died. Objectively she had to be not be found not guilty.

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The case is over. Lets focus on the real cold-blooded killer Jodi Arias!

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if you knew any of the facts about this case you would understand that the "drowning in a pool" story is implausible. according to the defense, casey's parents helped her cover up the "accidental drowning"- except casey's mother was the one who originally called the police after she confronted casey and found out caylee had been missing for a month. also, there are tapes of casey talking to her parents while in a jail, before caylee's body was found, where she is telling them she wishes she could be there with them searching for her and they continually ask casey if they will be able to find caylee. how does any of that make sense with the drowning scenario? why would casey make up the kidnapping nanny? or any of her other lies?
she googled chloroform and suffocation. she abandoned her car with a strange smell. just WATCH or LISTEN to her talk about caylee while she was missing and anyone with two eyes can see she is a lying sociopath.
my theory is her parents knew what she was and what she did, but they already lost their granddaughter and didn't want to lose their daughter too, so they defended her. but the jury is still idiotic- you don't need DNA or forensic evidence to convict someone- circumstantial evidence has always been used and many times successfully decided trials. the only logical conclusion in this case is that casey either accidentally or purposely killed her daughter by either suffocation or drugs- both of which were almost impossible to detect due to the composition of caylee's body when she was found. either way, casey still duct taped caylee's mouth, put her in a trash bag, and tossed her in the woods. she was responsible for her daughter's death and should be rotting in jail.

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Too bad you guys can't prove that she did it the prosecution DIDN'T exactly know how did Caylee died. There is no proof of murder. Nobody saw Casey "THROWS" her in to swamp.

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Yeah, you have a point there. There was no proof of murder besides the fact that the baby's body was duct taped, put in a plastic bag, and thrown in the woods. I don't know many other reasons other than murder why a child's body would be treated this way after their death, but without an actual cause of death everything is so difficult. The downfall of this case was that the body was so damn deteriorated by the time they found it (due to the fact that no one was even looking for Caylee for 30 whole days) that any traces of what most likely were the causes of her death (drugs or strangulation) were completely gone. Tragic.

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So agree with you! IMO, the state in which Caylee's body was found is absolute proof of murder.

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So agree with your post! Also, if Casey had accidentally drowned, why did the defense try to pin the murder on other people? Some of their theories include that George did in when he was in the process of molesting her in the pool - total lie! The meter read who found Caylee's remains did it (total lie!). Zanny the nanny kidnapped Caylee and murdered her - total lie! Early on in the case they tried to pin Caylee's murder on her friends and acquaintances like Jesse Grund (who is Casey's former fiance). In one of the jailhouse tapes when Casey was talking to her brother and he was trying to ask Casey where Caylee was, she told him to look at Jesse Grund because she thought he was suspicious. If Casey knew that Casey had accidentally drowned, then why should any of these people be looked at as possible suspects? IMO, Casey was responsible and she was trying to pin Caylee's death on anyone but herself. You don't have to make up theories about who murdered your child if they accidentally drowned. I think a big flaw in our justice system is that defense teams can throw idiotic theories out there without having any evidence to back them up. It undermines our justice system, imo, and makes it a complete and total farce.

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The jurors were lazy. They wanted hard evidence and didnt take the time to piece the puzzle

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I think the big problem here was the Prosecution went for the death penalty when they could not prove how the girl had died.

Given what the jury had been given in the way of evidence, the verdict was correct. You cannot give someone the death penalty if you cannot even prove how someone died.
DO I think she was guilty ? Certainly, but the verdict was correct.

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“DO I think she was guilty? Certainly,”

Is it your guess she intended to kill her daughter or did she accidentally kill her?

Of course, you know the prosecutor deliberately lied about the chloroform searches – right? (They were notified it was only 1 time before the trial started, yet they constantly said it was 84 times. That’s a fact – not a guess.)

(I would have voted for a manslaughter conviction, but I don’t think the jurors were idiots voting the way they did – based on the prosecutor’s conduct throughout the trial. Also the fact I wasn’t in the courtroom during the trial.)

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It's disturbing that Casey even searched for chloroform or how to make chloroform in the first place in light of the fact of the condition Caylee's body was found in and in light of the fact that high levels of chloroform were found in the truck of Casey's car. In Jose Baez's book, he stated that the defense found proof on Casey's computer that she had searched for foolproof suffocation before Caylee's murder. That was something that they found that they were not obligated to turn over to the prosecution. I wish the prosecution would have found it so that they could have used it at trial. IMO, it would have been icing on the cake that Casey searched for ways to murder Caylee, but even without it, there was still ample evidence for a conviction.

The PI in the case, Dominick Casey wrote several ebooks on this case that are available on Amazon. In them he states several times that Jose Baez knew she was guilty. So, I guess the jury can be proud of themselves that they were bamboozled by the low ball and unethical antics of the defense team in order to get their client off scot free.

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You don't have to prove how someone died to prove murder. There have been cases where no body was ever found; however, someone was still convicted of murder. If the jury would have actually deliberated, imo, they could have put together the string of overwhelming evidence, imo, that Casey was guilty of murder. Casey was Caylee's mother, Casey was the last person to have Caylee in her possession, she never called 911 to report that her child was missing or injured in an accident, Casey's car smelled like human decomposition, there was proof that there had been a dead body in Casey's trunk due to blow flies, and further, it was proven specifically that Caylee's dead body had been in the car because a hair with a death band had been found in the trunk. Through mitochondrial DNA the hair either belonged to Casey, her mother, her grandmother or her daughter. Well everyone was alive and accounted for besides Caylee. Casey lied about Caylee's whereabouts to all of friends, she evaded her parents and brother who were desperately trying to find Caylee, she exhibited celebratory behavior during the time Caylee was "missing" like partying, entering hot body contests, getting a bella vita tattoo, which, imo, is consciousness of guilt. Caylee was found a quarter mile away from the family home in garbage bags with duct tape wrapped around her skull, and once Caylee's remains were found, she tried to pin Caylee's murder on numerous other people. You don't do that if your child accidentally drowned. You do that when you know you are the one responsible for your child's murder. The coroner testified at trial that in all of her years of experience, 100% of the time where a child accidentally drowns, 911 is called. The instinct is to try to save your child at all costs, even if you think there is a slight chance of resuscitation. You don't wrap duct tape around their mouth, place them in garbage bags and laundry bags and then throw them away in a swamp to decompose. The burden of proof is beyond REASONABLE doubt, not ALL doubt. If it was beyond all doubt, then no one would ever be convicted.

IMO, if a jury had really taken the time to deliberate this case properly, I just don't see how they could come to any conclusion but that Casey murdered her daughter. They got wrapped up in all the nonsensical theories that the defense threw out there. If the defense would have said that aliens had kidnapped Caylee and murdered her, the jury would have believed them. They basically fell for Jose Baez's opening statement, none of which he proved in court. Opening statements are not considered evidence and the jury should have not used any information from it that had not been proven in court.

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Ya know...all these opinions whether she did this or not? I totally believe she did. The Anthony family and God know the real truth! In the defense's opening statement they played the reasonable doubt card, portraying Casey's father as a sexual predator. Abusing her as a child. Sickening! All defense attorneys do that. They should be held accountable for making those accusations. Especially if there is no proof!

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You know what? I really don't think the pretty, young, white has anything to do with the case. Look at Scott Petersen. He is quite the handsome, young, white guy. His case was also similar, circumstancial evidence. He was just as big a liar as miss Casey. I have to think the prosecution screwed up, or maybe they should have moved this trial to another State? Who knows.

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After seeing this movie that was all about Jeff Ashton, seeing him on TV shows and remembering him laughing during Jose Baez arguing, I think the prosecution was full of themselves. First, they over charged and then didn't go the distance in finding evidence because they thought they had a slam dunk. I haven't heard anybody talk about the other searches on her computer that they didn't present?

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I don't understand WHY people are so focused on Ashton and the prosecution being full of themselves, Jose Baez, Cheney and the rest of the clown crew were even MORE full of themselves!!!

I will always remember Ashton as the guy who figured this whole thing out, and Casey freakin knew it, that's why she freaked out here and there, it was never about her baby being dead, it was about, "Holy cow, that guy figured me out, I'm so dead". jmo.



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The reason people are focused on Ashton right now is this movie was based on his book and I understand he had input in the script. I think the movie would have been better if he hadn't; who cares about him talking to his wife. Those lines could have gone to Elizabeth Mitchell. Anyway, that is why we are focused on Jeff Ashton. If & when Jose Baez book & movie comes out we'll focus on him.

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See I watched this to get answers or atleast more answers as to why the Jury found her not guilty of Caley. And honestly now I know why they found her not guilty. If this really happened..Well they did have evidence, they just didn't get enough to fully understand how Casey did what she did to her daughter. I don't believe she drowned in the pool. Because if she did then she would have done so much more to help her daughter, or call the police. Not make this look like a murder. And what kind of mother party's get tats after a kid went missing or even dead? Shes a pyschopath. I honestly hope one day they would reopen Caley's case and give us more answers.

RIP Caley!

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Who's Caley?



WOW. I don't understand why do you people are hating this movie. It's Jeff Ashton's story NOT her. LOL! I guess the real Jeff was a lousy prosecutor....

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Jose Baez is disgusting scum. Maybe the prosecution could have made a better case, maybe they could have found another way to prove cause of death, but the defense was just the lowest of the low. Making up that crazy drowning story, accusing her father of abuse, it was just shameful.

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I so agree with you! People will talk about the prosecution's antics, but what about the defense team's? Imo, her defense team was the biggest group of unethical defense attorneys trying to get an obviously guilty person off scot free that I have ever seen. The defense team would continually complain how Casey could not get a fair trial due to all the publicity when they were the ones who were calling all the press conferences. If Caylee had accidentally drowned, then why did the try to pin the murder on George, the fictional nanny, the meter reader who found Caylee's remains and on Casey's friends and acquaintances? If Caylee had accidentally drowned, then why did they let their client sit in jail for 3+ years possibly facing the death penalty or life in prison without parole? IMO, the defense threw anything and everything at the wall to see what would stick. They threw it all out there in the attempt to confuse the jury and bring them away from the focus of the case which is, imo, that Casey was Caylee's mother, she was the last one in possession of her, she didn't call 911 to either report her daughter missing or to report that she had been injured or killed in an accident, she was the one who acted celebratory by partying, entering hot body contests, stealing money from her friends and getting a bella vita tattoo, she was the one who had a car that smelled like human decomposition, Caylee was found in plastics bags in a swamp with duct tape wrapped around her face, etc.

IMO, the jury had decided their verdict after Jose Baez's opening statement. Once they heard the lie that George had molested Casey, they didn't look at anything else. IMO, Jose Baez should have been either severely sanctioned or disbarred by putting things in his opening statement that he couldn't prove by testimony during the trial. He did not put on even one witness to prove that George had ever abused Casey in any way. The defense tried to get a psychiatrist in the trial to say that she told him about the abuse, but the doctor wanted no part of it. When he first examined Casey early on in the case, Casey had told him she was NEVER abused and in his further examination, he did not believe that Casey was abused because she didn't exhibit the characteristics or symptoms of someone who had been chronically abused when they were a child. Later on, Casey tried to change her story with this psychiatrist and say that, yes, she had indeed been abused, but the doctor wanted no part of it. He told the prosecutors that he felt high uncomfortable and thought it to be unethical that the defense was trying to get him to testify at trial about any abuse because he did not believe it. Ultimately, the defense team never called this doctor as a witness.

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I so agree with your post. Defense teams are not obligated in court to prove their clients are innocent. The burden in on the prosecution to prove guilt. In numerous cases I have followed; however, the defense teams put outlandish theories and explanations in their opening statements, but then never comes back and proves them in court. The jury cannot unhear what the defense team said in their opening statements though. Although I do believe that defense attorneys have a right to thoroughly and rigorously defend their clients to the best of their ability, I don't think they should be able to say whatever they want during their opening statements and then not come back during the trial and prove any of it. I think this is a huge flaw in our criminal justice system. I think that in cases where defense teams do this, the judge should give an instruction to the jury that firstly, opening statement by either the defense or the prosecution can not be used as evidence during deliberations, and secondly, that if something was not specifically brought up during the actual testimony part of the trial, that it can't be used at all during deliberations. And I believe that should hold true for both sides, whether it is the defense or the prosecution.

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I guess I am having difficulty understanding the difference between the Casey Anthony case and the Scott Petersom case. He was convicted o purely circumstantial evidence. The circumstantial evidence they had against Casey seemed as strong as what they against Scott. If the circumstantial evidence is strong enough, a jury can convict. I just think in Casey's the jury didn't take the time to understand the forensics. They failed Caylee.

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It's just like they had more circumstantial AND forensic evidence in the OJ case, yet he still got off. A regular person would have been convicted with far less. It's because of the jury that cases are inconsistent. The Scott Peterson jury would've most likely convicted Casey.

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I think the problem in the OJ case was that the prosecutor bored the jury into a stupor with the lengthy explanation of the DNA evidence. I didn't sit glued to the tv during his trial, but I saw bits and pieces. It looked as though the jury's collective eyes glazed over because of the scientific jargon that went way over their heads. Granted, some explanation was necessary as DNA evidence was still fairly new, but I think the prosecutor went overboard and gave the jury too much.

The biggest problem (in my opinion) with this case is that the prosecutors engaged in supposition as to the cause of death. It really couldn't be determined, only speculated. As a result, the jury may have wondered what else the prosecution got wrong. I can see that resulting in a not guilty verdict in a capital case. Even though it is supposed to be "beyond a reasonable doubt," as opposed to beyond a shadow of a doubt, I can see jurors wanting to be positive in a capital case. But that doesn't explain why they didn't find her guilty of one of the lesser offenses where they wouldn't feel the need to be so positive, because by Casey's own admission (at one point) she WAS responsible for Kaley's death.

Something else to consider is that WE got more of the evidence than did the jury. Remember how often the jury was removed from the courtroom while the judge decided what would and would not be admissible? We were privy to everything. The jury was not.

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I had that question too - about the difference in the Scott Peterson case and this one. What evidence did they have in that case they didn't have in this one?

I agree it was the jury - as I recall one jury member had a vacation planned and I still don't know what juror #3 was talking about. Jurors are supposed to deliberate and discuss a case. I think they wanted to go home and since they were not going to piece together the evidence, they felt better acquitting instead of sending her to prison.

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The difference between this and the Scott Peterson case is that some day we're going to wake up one morning to the news announcing that new evidence exonerating Peterson had been discovered or that the prosecution had kept it from the defense. Then we'll be treated to the prosecution sheepishly trying to explain themselves.

The Peterson case is no different from the Wast Memphis 3 case and the Martin Tankleff case. In these spectacular cases which garner national media coverage you frequently get jury comprised of people wanting to 'do something' so badly that they overemphasis marginal evidence and convict.

That's the problem with most juries, they fail to view the police and the prosecution with an appropriate level of skepticism.

The cops and the prosecution are lazy, they generally focus on one suspect or theory and ignore everything else. They should be required to demonstrate that they followed all leads and evidence with equal vigor before they can present any case to a jury.

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Are you saying they didn't prove the Peterson case beyond a reasonable doubt & you think he is innocent?

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No I don't think they proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Peterson was convicted mainly because he was a scumbag who was cheating on his wife.

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Good luck trying to convince the mob with their pitchforks and torches that reasonable doubt applies and innocent until PROVEN guilty is the base of their justice system. But I do applaud the effort.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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