If you've read The Davinci Code and Angels and Demons you would have found something very familiar here. Still, I was entertained - what could be so bad about Anthony Edwards, at least 3 really attractive women, double secret religious societies who are keeping a really really big secret, Nazis as the bad guys, the biggest conspiracy in history, etc.? I thought there would be a lot more threads, actually, because there's lots to talk about.
shareI don't get you "Da Vinci Code rip-off" people.
First of all, you whine, bitch and moan about generic, indistinguishable cop/doctor/lawyer dramas but when something original comes along, you nit-pick it to death against an earlier, vaguely similar property no matter how unpopular-critically and/or commercially-it was.
Second of all, what exactly is the point? Is it that you want a pat on the back for your 'stunning observation' which is why you're so smug when you cry rip-off?
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LOL calm down!!
The OP LIKED the episode and was saying it was intriguing on its own merits, so what is your problem?? And yeah all I could think of was Dan Brown as well since I read both of the books and seen the films. It DOES feel famaliar. Doesnt mean its a rip off though, just a similar narrative.
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shareThe OP LIKED the episode and was saying it was intriguing on its own merits, so what is your problem?? And yeah all I could think of was Dan Brown as well since I read both of the books and seen the films. It DOES feel famaliar. Doesnt mean its a rip off though, just a similar narrative.
Ok - I DO think it looks like a rip-off, but it still entertained me. I do see the problems, though, that others are referring to. Any time you start with the premise "the biggest conspiracy in the history of the World" you're going to be subject to ridicule. And then add nazis and double secret religious orders that will give their lives to preserve a centuries old secret, and you've got even more potential for ridicule. Indeed, Dan Brown's books were ridiculed by many, and they were considered far superior to the movies.
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I have to applaud Yorick, in my opinion, couldn't have been said any better... it may be similar just in the whole puzzle mythology aspect, but I can't say rip off. I was thinking more Hellboy most of the time to be honest lol. I'm just happy to have another adventure show that may actually interest me. Read Yorick's post without that sherlock holmes smugness he mentions, and hopefully see he hit the nail on the head.
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I'm not trying to fuel his fire by agreeing with him, and I don't mind if he disagrees with me and picks me apart in the future. I just agree with what he said, unaware of what he does on other boards or if he operates in repetitive patterns like a troll. I'm sorry if I sounded "smug" all I mean by it is. Some people may be too clever for the show or loyal dan brown fan boys, but that's not a reason to pawn it off as complete garbage after one episode. I just wish people would be grateful for something different to watch, even if they've figured most of it out after one epi.
shareJust to be clear - I kind of liked the pilot, derivative though it might have been. But that Yorick guy can get REALLY nasty. I also think that the show's probably not going to last for the reason that all of the shows that have targeted the "Lost" audience since that show ended have failed. Eventually, one will succeed, but I don't think it's going to be this one.
shareBut that Yorick guy can get REALLY nasty.
Actually Dan Brown pinched the ideas from another book entitled 'Quest for The Holy Grail'. The authors of that documentary book sued Brown, unsuccessfully.I suppose with such huge royalties Brown could afford a better lawyer than they. In any case, both of his fictitious works and the movies based on them are absolutely boring whereas the documentary book was quite intriguing. Needless to say, Zero Hour was equally boring.
shareZero Hour started well, IMHO, slowly but it built up. The mid episodes were good, pace increased but then the last few slowed down and by the time the finale ended I really didnt care. Good premise, executed fairly, ended ok. Not the worst I've watched, but nowhere near the best
shareBig secret... Nazi bad guys... hot chicks...
You mean the Indiana Jones films?
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Yeah, I guess so - ancient maps too - years ahead of their time! God, that last Indiana Jones movie was just awful, wasn't it?
shareA secret? Nazi bad guys? Hot chick?
Hmmmmmm.....is it...
Iron Sky? The Rocketeer? American Beauty? Swing Kids? Last Crusade? Raiders of the Lost Ark? Possibly Hellboy? And depending on what is a hot chick, The Boys From Brazil? Wait I got it, Shock Waves. Shock Waves, really? The hell is wrong with me?
Maybe it's just another Tomb Raider story with Nazis, except Lara got ugly and guy like and bald and Hey! that's the guy from Revenge of The Nerds.
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More like Black Order by James Rollins.
shareI read that Anthony Edwards himself said he knew there would be comparisions to Dan Brown but that he thought it was different enough to sign on for the show. I personally felt like it was a bit of blending of [i}Raiders of the Lost Ark[/i], Dan Brown's stuff, and National Treasure. But pretty much all of those involve mysteries, conspiracies and codes or treasure maps of some kind so...
Despite the similarities I found it fairly entertaining and, more importantly, the mystery left me wanting to know more.
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Edwards' co-star in ER, Noah Wylie, already did a series of Indiana Jones-like films, the Librarian series, which were very entertaining.
shareTreasure maps means it's a ripoff of Treasure Island. And it's in English, so it's a ripoff of Chaucer. Anybody understand what ripoff means?
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you would never know about dan brown if it wasnt for the movies.
shareReligious conspiracy stories predate Dan Brown by centuries. In fact, Brown plagiarized a non-fiction, conspiracy theory book from the 80s called "Holy Blood and Holy Grail" for "The Da Vinci Code." The only reason he won the resulting lawsuit was because the judge said a novel couldn't rip off a non-fiction book.
Brown's book also bears a suspicious resemblance to a novel from the 90s called "Foucault's Pendulum." Brown has openly admitted that the hero of TDVC is based on Indiana Jones. And then there are loopy older films like "The Hypothesis of a Stolen Painting," which have a very similar premise.
So, if anything, Brown should be paying royalties to a whole bunch of people. Fortunately for him, you can't copyright ideas. There isn't anything original about The Da Vinci Code, so there really isn't anything there to rip off that hasn't appeared elsewhere, already.
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Completely agree. When I read The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, I got the feeling I'd already heard about the ideas in it from somewhere else, so I guess there's nothing new about it all. I just don't like the idea of a non-talent like Dan Brown making money from it.
shareLike so many who responded to the post already said, Dan Brown is just one of the latest to pick up a "genre" and write a few successful novels. Nothing new about the general idea of conspiracies revolving around religion. I like Brown, Angels and Demons especially, and I liked this show too.
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