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Netty is right 2 be made joy/carl spent her $375,000


Joy White/Carl Tyson sewed Harlem Hospital.
They finally rec'd $750,000 in 1992.
The $ was split. $375,000 went into a trust for Carlina.
Joy/Carl split the $375 getting $187,500 each.

When 21 years passed (2008) and Carlina hadn't been found they spent the remaining $375,000.

Carlina was found in Jan 2011, just 3 years later.
Joy said "I had to live. I had 2 other kids to support. Carl had his family. The $ is gone".

How did they spend $375,000 in 3 years?

I def understand if Netty is mad about that.
She I think is most tramautised of everyone.
When the free therapy runs out her $375k coulda been used to continue therapy.
She coulda use it to get her hair cosmetology license.
She coulda used it for her daughter Samani.

Joy says she never gave up hope, so if that is true WHY SPEND THE $.
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YOU SOUND JUST AS CRAZY AS NETTY.. SHE WAS GONE 21 YEARS.. THEY HAVE HAD FAMILIES CONTINUED EDUCATION AND SO ON.. ITS ASHAME HE BOTTOM LINE IS AND WAS ABOUT MONEY. SO SHE CAN BUY CLOTHING AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AND SOUND GHETTO AND LOW LIKE SHE DID ON THE AFTER SHOW. SHE HAD A BABY AT 17. SHE SHOULD BE REFLECTING ON WHAT HER LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN. SHE HAS NO CONCERN FOR HER REAL PARENTS INSTEAD SHE SAYS IF I COULD DO IT ALL OVER I WOULD GIVE MY MOM A SECOND CHANCE. SHE IS TRASH AND GREW UP TRASH.. THE AUNT AND EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS LIKE LOW GHETTO SNIPE AND SOUNDS LIKE IT. HOPE SHE GETS MONEY FROM THE MOVIE TO BUY A DECENT MAN.. THE ONLY WAY SHE WILL GET SOMEONE NOT LIKE HER. SMH

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Re: Netty is right 2 be made joy/carl spent her $375,000
by - sbehling13 on Sun Oct 7 2012 03:52:42
YOU SOUND JUST AS CRAZY AS NETTY.. SHE WAS GONE 21 YEARS.. THEY HAVE HAD FAMILIES CONTINUED EDUCATION AND SO ON.. ITS ASHAME HE BOTTOM LINE IS AND WAS ABOUT MONEY. SO SHE CAN BUY CLOTHING AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AND SOUND GHETTO AND LOW LIKE SHE DID ON THE AFTER SHOW. SHE HAD A BABY AT 17. SHE SHOULD BE REFLECTING ON WHAT HER LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN. SHE HAS NO CONCERN FOR HER REAL PARENTS INSTEAD SHE SAYS IF I COULD DO IT ALL OVER I WOULD GIVE MY MOM A SECOND CHANCE. SHE IS TRASH AND GREW UP TRASH.. THE AUNT AND EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS LIKE LOW GHETTO SNIPE AND SOUNDS LIKE IT. HOPE SHE GETS MONEY FROM THE MOVIE TO BUY A DECENT MAN.. THE ONLY WAY SHE WILL GET SOMEONE NOT LIKE HER. SMH


sbehling, TAKE THE CAPS OFF MO FO.
Neither Netty nor I are crazy.
if Netty wasnt kidnapped joy/carl wouldnt have got that $750k.
SO how would they have paid their bills and raised their other kids.

It isnt smart or ideal to be a teenage mother. But Netty took fantastic car of Samani. She is emotionally present unlike Mom Ann.

The rest of your post is trash.
And for you to comment on Netty, AuntCassandra
( the actress who portrays her IS A BEAUTY http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4182855/)
show that no 1 ever told you or show you that you were loved.
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debhling, thank you for taking off the caps lock.
It is a shame you are not loved.
G9D loves you and it will get better for you ok.
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I see both sides, but who's to say Joy & Carl's money didn't go for their own therapy, that had to be completely devastating. Someone dies, you know the deal, this couple didn't know know if she were alive dead or & by who's hand if not.
Their imaginations likely drove them half mad...it's like torture.

Always on edge wondering, dialogue running in your head if this is her, if that is her, would they even recognize her if they saw her. Fresh hell is what it was.
Then at the end of the day, when she is found, she doesn't recognize know or love you...wow.. just wow!

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saahlhok,
If joy and carl spent $3675k on therapy in 3yrs years where are the receipts.
The fact that all joy would say is 'the $ is gone' and not elaborate to neither the reporters nor their bio daughter netty makes me think it was spend foolishly.
CT casinos and NJ casinos aren't from from where they live in NY!

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I think the movie deplicted that scene too short - my guess is that she was more upset that after her 21st Birthday is when the money would be free will. Which perhaps stated to her that they were only given hope of her being alive up till that year (i.e. her 21st Birthday). She even mentions to the mother about why they stopped searching for her.

Only concern I had with the situation is when the mother did an interview claiming that it was about the money. She of course didn't say it exactly like that but that is how is was shown.


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What I don't get is that with that money was being used for Lawyers fees and a PI to try and find her but Joy was still living in the projects? WTF???


Money can't buy you a soul!!!!

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Are you saying to date Joy is living in the PJ's? I hope NOT!

If she is , I am GLAD the movie showed her living in a house. lmao


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Is Hunts POint bronx the project ?
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http://crushable.com/entertainment/lifetime-documentary-abducted-the-c arlina-white-story-keke-palmer-sherri-shepherd-true-story-805

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lisaLuv,
That still doesnt explain to me why they spent CARLINA"S MONEY.
What if when Carlina was found she needed some expensive $374,000 but couldnt get it bc joy/carl spent the $? I dont get it bc all these years, all these 21 years they were able to pay thier bills, raise their kids WITHOUT THE $. How did they blow through $375k in 3 yrs?

I also agree w Carlina about them searching for her. Carlina played on google. From what I saw it was easier for her to find herself bc she knew to search for missing babies in june july aug 7 and she was smart to go from just searching in CT to search in NY, but still HOW did joy/carl keep searching? They definitely didnt use that $375,000 to make a website or a hotline or offer a reward or get on national tv.

I too didnt like how Joy said carlina stopped taling to her after she found out about the $. Did you watch "beyond the headlines" after the movie? Netty said she didnt like that Joy lied about the $, but moreso didnt like that joy/carl were pushing her to move to NY; didnt like that joy/carl wanted ann to go to jail for life bc that would take another child from its mother: her younger brother trevon.
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If she is , I am GLAD the movie showed her living in a house. lmao
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The movie and the after story did make it seem confusing. I thought Joy was well off in a nice neighborhood etc. I didn't know she lived in the projects. They also didn't talk about Trevon in the movie, etc.

The end made me switch my feelings towards Netty's story. It seemed like Netty was more of a gold-digger than actually wanting to get to know her real parents. Like the money was more important.


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shJP, read this
As I stated Netty had a right to be mad about the $.
Also all the news stories about her and magazine articles and websites make $ off her, so why shouldnt she get a cut?
I wonder how much lifetime paid her?

joy/carl already spent $375k and then blew threw hers (which was actually $424,000 ) in JUST 2.5 YEARSS.

The way I took it it is that they gave up hope after 21 years.
If they still had hope why not put the the $ away again?
Use the $ for a PI...or for billboards...or for a website
or to buy airtime on natinal shows like gma, today, cbs morning?


You all say she is living in the projects
(I didnt see this. I'm going from what you are all saying.
This srticle says they live in Hunts Point Bronx, is that the projects?
-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8320239/Car lina-Whites-reunion-with-her-mother-Joy-after-23-years-apart-turns-sou r.html
bronx
-www.ctpost.com/local/article/Carlina-White-s-birth-mother-fears-she-wo n-t-get-1002688.php

What did they spent the $424 on? trip to new jersey to gamble? they didnt buy a house in the suburbs.
-Joy/carl need to account for the $424k to Netty.
-Nnot sure about Carl but Joy went to school and became a . why is she still in
the projects/ Why did she not have $ that she had to spend Carlina's?

The end made me switch my feelings towards Netty's story. It seemed like Netty was more of a gold-digger than actually wanting to get to know her real parents. Like the money was more important.
-joy/carl wanted netty to leaver her life, apt, and her daughter's school for new york so they could get to know her better. why not they move to georgia for her?
- Carl went on to have a family as did jOy. Carlina was the one with the drug user/swindler who felt like she didnt belong.
-joy/carl wanted netty to get 23 yrs to life for kidnapping which netty was against. that would take another child from its mother: her brother trevon would loose his Mom ann
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Hunts Point is a pit. All there is around the neighborhood is car repair shops and prostitutes. A very bad area. I wasn't aware anybody lived there.

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marbleann, Some 1 else said that as well.
So carl/joy DIDNT use the $ to move to the suburbs.
Sigh, I do feel for them in that they found Netty and want to make up for lost time but surely they can understand her feeling : You spent the $ bc you gave up on finding me, you gave up on ME.
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really???? get a *beep* life.com!!! you azz holes are really getting into about a movie and somebody's life... i bet you and lisa post on every and anything on this site looking for friendship and love.. #too sad..

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sbehling,
lisaLuv and I have been members.
you JUST JOINED : http://www.imdb.com/user/ur36858047/boards/profile/

Come clean, are you really JOy White pissed that we are saying Netty should move to New Yotk?

Is this Carl Tyson ?
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What did they spent the $424 on? trip to new jersey to gamble? they didnt buy a house in the suburbs.
-Joy/carl need to account for the $424k to Netty.
-Nnot sure about Carl but Joy went to school and became a . why is she still in
the projects/ Why did she not have $ that she had to spend Carlina's?
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LMAO, about New Jersey to gamble. Where did the money go is right?

You're right though, Netty did have a right to be mad. But to just stop all contact with them after finding out there was no money was just selfish. I can understand being mad but damn. You found your biological mother be glad for that. Netty should've put herself in their shoes, they gave up hope. I think any family would've spent that money and called it a day. Attorney fees are expensive, but contacting the press, etc is free. At least she got paid from Lifetime.


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From the article:

The money was a fortune by the standards of the rundown, crime-plagued Hunts Point district of the Bronx where Miss White lives in an unprepossessing apartment block. The average household income last year was barely $16,000 and more than half the population lives below the poverty line.

Miss White is vague when pressed on where the cash went. "It's gone, we don't have the money," she said. "At the time, things were really rocky with me. I have two other kids, and I had to take care of myself."
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$425,000 could last a long time if spent properly. There's no reason why she still be in a run down apartment. Sigh.



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Not in NY 425,00 can go far, that is the price of a house. In any case why the mother was living in Hunts point the home of Prostitutes and car junk yards, Lord only knows. HBO even had a documentary about the Prostitution going on there.
I really do nto think the money should of went to the daughter. The money was awarded because the parent had their child stolen because of bad security. The money was to compensate them for their loss, the baby was gone. It was just a nice idea to put money in the bank for her, but it was not something they had to do.
I just think Carlina is a product of the mother who brought her up and that is why she seem to be only about the money.

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shilohjp Re:stopping all contact after finding them was selfish
shiloh,
Is it selfish? How is Netty supposed to pay for her/samani to go back/forth to NY ? Yes the $ was an issue but not THE issue.
joy/carl wanted netty to move to NY to be with them.
I agree w Netty. Her life is in GA! Her job, apt, as well as Samani's school.


Why dont joy/catl travel and meet her in GA? Netty would be most comfortable is the surroundings she has always known after all.

Netty said she wanted Carl to keep his word of not wanting the kidnapper to go to jail. Shee doesnt understand how they have no compassion for her mother9as she knows her) Ann. Her biggest contention is that she feels joy/carl are doing what was done to them bu ann: taking a child from their mothr by having her brother Trevon loose his mother Ann.

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shJP
i found this
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/following-carlina-white-m oney-trail.
joy carl sued in carlina's name.
the money was awarded in carlina's name.
joy carl each spent their $163,000.
they tried to get the money back in 2004, 5 YEARS early.

i think netty sees them trying to get the $ early and then getting the money and spending it all in 2008 to mean that carl/joy they gave up on her/carlina.

the $ was put in a trust and yes THEY HAD TO DO THAT [red]PER NEW YORK DISTRICT COURT ORDER[RED].
the $ was monitored and the parents who "never gave up hope, never stopped looking" tried years ago, 5 years early in 2003 to get CARLINA'S MONEY.

I think any family would've spent that money and called it a day
When they did get the $ in aug 08, they STILL didnt use the $ to search for Carlina. No flyers, no hotline, so ads, no tv blitzes.
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It was not. The money was divided 3 ways one to the lawyer , to her parents and 3 to the trust fund HER PARENTS set up. It was her parents who set up the trust. They saw the trust was not performing the way is was suppose to and they tried get permission to invest it in something else and they were not allowed to. see even when you make a trust for a person you yourself cannot touch it either until the allotted time. I can be sure the judge saw they had no clear plan that would outperform where the money was already invested and denied the request. That is why they needed permission.

Now if the girl wants money she needs to sue NY City Hospital system. But right now the parents did no wrong if they did I am sure they would of been in big trouble and the law would of came down on them. Also Nettie knows that they had the right to do what they did because she would of made sure they got in trouble. Now this is all I am going to talk about the case. her anger is misplaced and she needs to use some of that misplaced anger to do something constructive and that is sue the hospital system.

And lastly for argument sake let's say the Courts set up the trust. It still was only good until she reached a certain age. She reached it and reverted back to her parents. So it still wasn't her money. Get over it and she should too. Life is too short to be mad at your parents because of some money. But she seems not to have any problems with the nut that stole her life. Like I said misplaced anger. And IMO she is a product of her fake mothers upbringing. block

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The bottom line is even though Carlina's name is on the lawsuit, it was stipulated in a Feb. '93 (Settlement) Agreement that a Trust would be set up for Carlina and she'd receive it if found by the age of 21.

She was not found. The money went to Joy/Carl.

No judge in the NY court system would have approved of them getting the money when they did otherwise.

They did try to get it 5 years earlier but the judge denied it then. Joy was making very little money, she had two additional children, and was probably suffering hardship.


I don't know if this bothers Carlina still but she's gonna have to make peace with this and let it go. Through the grace of God these two people gave her life. A life that they should have been able to witness grow up but didnt because it was stolen from them. For the life of me, I CAN NOT understand why this is so overlooked.

Folks (like Smoking Gun) are trying to make the parents out to be horrible people with this money situation and that's just wrong wrong wrong. They don't know what these people have gone through.

What did the parents do with all that money you ask!? I hope they got a lot of therapy!!


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I agree with you %100 bloorain82. I also agree about the Smoking Gun. Reading the Smoking Gun is like reading TMZ.

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marbleann
After 24yrs hasnt statute of limitations run out ?

Get over it and she should too. Life is too short to be mad at your parents because of some money.
That $ could have helped with netty's therapy. Her cosmetology license.


But she seems not to have any problems with the nut that stole her life. Like I said misplaced anger. And IMO she is a product of
Netty IS mad @ Ann. She is also considerate about her brother Trevon loosing his mother(ann).


At the very least joy and carl need to account for blowing $375,000 in 2.5 yrs. Did taxes take half? It was a trust so isnt it tax free?

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I understand why she was upset about the money. But both parents had other children, that probably needed to go to college, etc. They probably gave up hope that she would ever be found.

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Saw your msg - I see what u mean
Far as my previous post - Yes I saw the aftershow but basing my info on movie only. Read some other replies on this thread and ppl are not realizing that movies deplic storys to how they feel fitted. Making them more dramatic / action worthy for the audiences.

The mother was clumped up as this drug addicted lady, Netty (Caralina) was shown with a backbone able to talk back to her mother, & no mention to how big the family actually was (i.e. cousins all around the neighborhood, a brother, etc). If the movie was to have stuck w/ the real story word-for-word then it would been boring to audiences so they spruced it up.


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It was never intended by the lawsuit's payout settlement to be considered Carlina's money. Her parents designated it to her while setting up accounts. I thought this was a nice gesture. The settlement check was never written out to Baby White. It was ALWAYS their money to do with what THEY wanted. What I found sad, was that somehow this very personal financial information was public knowledge, which it never should have been. Would it have been nice for Carlina to have received it? Of course, but it was definitely not "owed" her.

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/following-carlina-white-m oney-trail

from this it was carlina's money.
they sued in her name.
the money was awarded in her name.
and they tried to get the money back in 2004, 5 YEARS early.
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The money was awarded to the parents because of the pain and suffering they went through. Netty didn't even know anything about her past - her parents suffered for 23 years waiting to hear if she was alive or dead. I can't imagine a worse hell.

Netty cutting off all contact because she didn't get her hands on the money she presumed to be hers is very telling about why she really made contact in the first place.

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This is the main point of who the money belonged too,it was the "parents" money from jump.had the ungrateful Netty been "killed" by her abductor or had Netty,"never" found her real parents from jump..was that money supposed to just sit in the bank forever...bravo to you ashlee 999 for pointing that out,obviously the originator of this topic has about as much sense as Netty.SMFH

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Hhad the money to blow irresponsibley AND NOT SPEND LOOKING FOR CARLINA/NETTY.
I look at it like when a hospital injures a child, there is a payout.
The payout is in the name of the parents for the child.
I feel this is similar situation.


In the 90s joy /carl got 375,000.
Carl/joy each spent their 375k.
carlina/netty's portion grew to 424,000.
In just 18mon they blew threw that. That is ok by you?

what if when they found netty she needed surgery that cost 420,000?

And they still living in the projects!
So what did they do withall that money bc they didnt use it to look for Netty.

Yet Netty is supposed to drop her life, job, take her daughter Samani from school and move to NY?
What $ was she supposed to use to do all that?
..and where is she supposed to live?
in the project apt with joy since she didnt use the 424,000 to buy a house?

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carlina/netty's portion grew to 424,000.


What portion was that? The courts awarded the money to the parents. Oh you mean the money the parents put in trust, even though they did not have too. Oh and if you think that was Netty's money then why isn't she in court trying to get it back? Or at least get her parents to pay some of the money back? Gary Coleman did that? People do it all of the time.

There is even a law that makes sure parents do not spend all of the money their kids have. It is called the Coogan law. That is why they have courts set up trusts if kids are awarded money or make a lot of money. Because of greedy parents. But again that was not her money. They could of spend that money on a endless supply of White Castle Hamburgers if they wanted to.

Why? BECAUSE it was not her money. Better yet like I said before she needs to go to court and sue the hospital herself.

Suppose she needed a operation? Suppose she did the money sat there for 20 years that wasn't hers. If she showed before then that money was going to her education. So she would not have had it anyway at the age they found her.

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marbleann, where are you reading that joy/carl didnt have to ?
the court ordered them to.
And it is good that they did seeing as house Joy is living in the projects.

Now that Netty has found them they want her to move to NY so they
can get to know her and her daughter. How can she do this ?
Joy still lives in the projects,
is Netty supposed to live there with her daughter ?

If they hadnt blown thru the money IN JUST 3 YRS thy could move Netty to NY.

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ashlee,
WHAT is it very telling about. You think netty looked for her bio parents for $?

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I think cutting off all contacts with the parents who loved and lost her and hurting them when they've already been hurt more than anyone should in a lifetime, just because she couldn't get her hands on a settlement that was not awarded to her in the first place, shows what her priorities are.

Do I think she looked for them for money? No, probably not. But I think her tune obviously changed when she saw there was money to be had. Like too many people, she wanted what was not hers.

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I think she unfortunately is a product of her upbringing. The person who raised her was very mercenary and I am sure she did not instill the best in her while she was raising her. IMO the money was not hers.

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Nature vs nurture - unfortunately nurture (or something that passes for it) was what won out.

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marbleann,
"product of her upbringing"

Really? That isnt fair. Do you see Netty on drugs, stealing kids?
How do you know Ann didnt instill the best in Netty?
The Pettway family, aunt cassi et all did help in raising Netty.

"IMO the money was not hers. "
Had NETTY not been kidnapped joy/carl wouldnt have
had the money to blow irresponsibley AND NOT SPEND LOOKING FOR CARLINA/NETTY.
I look at it like when a hospital injures a child, there is a payout.
The payout is in the name of the parents for the child.

In the 90s joy carl each got 375,000.
Carl/joy each spent their 375k. carlina/netty's portion grew to 424,000.
In just 18mon they blew threw that. That is ok by you?
And they still living in the projects!
So what did they do withall that money bc they didnt use it to look for Netty.
Yet Netty is supposed to drop her life, job, take her daughter Samani from school and move to NY? What $ was she supposed to use to do all that?
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First I said her mother was mercenary. Did I mention anything about her taking drugs . I was talking about her mothers personality and if you cooled down for a second you would of understood that.
They kept that money in trust for 20 years, something they had no obligation to do. And I am sure if they had a trust and estates lawyer they would of advised against it.

If that money was for her the courts would of ordered it to be set in trust period. The money was awarded to the parents. So do not get it twisted, It is obvious you never dealt with the courts or how they work. You cannot touch any money if it is not for you. They put that money in a trust for a child until they reach 18 and they appoint a guardian, usually not the parent to make sure the money is in the right place and getting the best interest available. It is that complicated. There are serious laws about that. The harm was to the parents. The hospital was negligent. They had no idea she was even still alive. The parents suffered the loss of their child.


I say Nettie needs to go to that hospital and sue them. That is who is in the wrong along with the nut that took her. You ever thought of that? her initiating a new lawsuit against the hospital so she can awarded for her damages. How was the parents in the wrong for her missing. Why should have to pay her for something they did not do. The money was not hers. Let her go and sue them and get her own money. Again I believe she is a product of her upbringing and she is showing her anger in the wrong place. She needs to be more resourceful and show her anger the hospital not her parents
Also it seems she is madder at her parents then at the jerk that kidnapped her. How can you even think her anger is not misplaced. She is mad at her real parents because they spend money that was not her that they put is trust just is case she showed up in 20 years. But not mad at the nut who took her. Seems to me the parents biggest mistake was putting the money in trust which they did not have to do. because for some reason people that it was the daughters money in which in which it was not. Maybe if they just spent it when they got it no one would of thought mistakenly it was hers.
One last thing the money was the parents if they wanted to go out and spend the money on a shopping spree at Bloomingdale's and Barney's they could of. So what. You think Nettie would of felt better if they spent the money all on donations to the ASPCA? No. Suppose they donated the money? What that had been acceptable to you? What they did is something IMO most people would not have done , waited for 20 years. How long were they suppose to wait. It was not Netty's money? Until they died? I think not. What would of been a proper time for you? Never. They could of still spent the money and still looked for her. One has nothing to do with the other.

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marbleann, you are the one who needs to go sit in a freezer.

read this.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/following-carlina-white-m oney-trail
the lawsuit was in carlina's name.
the $ was awarded to carlina.
joy carl each spent their $163,000 and wanted more.
the $ was put in a trust and yes THEY HAD TO DO THAT [red]PER NEW YORK DISTRICT COURT ORDER[RED]
the $ was monitored and the parents who "never gave up hope, never stopped looking" tried years ago in 2003 to get CARLINA'S MONEY .

Did netty say she wasnt mad @ ann? She was pissed and for years tried to get answers. In fact, if Netty dropped all the Pettways like her birth parents joy/carl wanted Id be mad @ her.

One last thing the money was the parents if they wanted to go out and spend the money on a shopping spree at Bloomingdale's and Barney's they could of. So what. You think Nettie would of felt better if they spent the money all on donations to the ASPCA? No. Suppose they donated the money? What that had been acceptable to you? What they did is something IMO most people would not have done , waited for 20 years. How long were they suppose to wait. It was not Netty's money? Until they died? I think not. What would of been a proper time for you? Never. They could of still spent the money and still looked for her. One has nothing to do with the other.
1 last thing, printing flyers, setting up a hotline, going on gma/today/early show IS THE LEAST they could have done if they really gave a damn about carlina.
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ashlee, woooooo. You really think she is out to hurt them? I read the 1 interview Netty gave. She was relived to find her roots, but hurt, frustrated, confused. She was in therapy to help deal w the situation.

NETTY HURTS TOO!
I feel more so bc joy went on to have 2 kids plus the $
carl went on 2 have 2 kids plus the $.

had carlina been found wouldnt she have got to share in/experience the $?

It wasnt "just bc she couldnt get her hands on a settlement that was not awarded to her in the first place". It was the trial. Netty asked for her carl/joy to have compassion as Ann is the only mother she has ever known, and MORE IMPORTANTLY bc in prosecuting Ann another child would loose his parents(just like netty did): her younger brother Traevon would his mother Ann.2) joy wanted netty to abandon her life in atl so she[joy] could get to know her nad her granddaughter. netty was working and her daughter samani was in school. She was just to uproot for joy to have pices of mind? netty did makes 2 trips then stopped. did joy/carl make the effort to go to georgia? nope. yet netty is selfish.

here again is where the moeny comes in. had they not wasted it the could have travelled to GA to see netty and their granddaughter samani. Instead joy puts all the pressure on netty to come to her, then gets made and says 'she is only about the $' when rebuffed. If joy was really missing her carlina, why was she joy being so selfish, callous, and unwilling? why couldnt joy travel to atl? joy really wanted samani pulled out of school?

ad. Like too many people, she wanted what was not hers.

how as it not hers? had she not been kidnapped joy/carl wouldnt have
had the money to blow irresponsibleyAND NOT SPEND LOOKING FOR CARLINA/NETTY

Did you watch the special"Behind The Headlines:The Carlina white Story"?.
Netty speaks for herself giving a 1 on 1 interview.
She speaks on joy wanting her to drop everything in atl for her in ny, of joy not liking that netty loved the pettway family, and more.
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FIrst of all, Netty wanting to be loyal to the woman who raised her (aka the kidnapper) could be understandable. But as a mother, she should also realize that if someone had stolen her daughter and kept her for decades - she would not want to be so lenient, so a little understanding was necessary on both sides.

Yes, I did watch the Behind the Headlines. And it's very easy to explain why the money was not hers: the parents were the ones who suffered. The parents were the ones awarded. The parents were the ones who chose to put the money away with the hope that she would be found while she was a child. The parents were the ones who suffered. Pain and suffering is what they were awarded the money for. Netty didn't even realize she was kidnapped until she was an adult and mother - she did not go her entire life knowing that there was some other family out there that she belonged to. Had that been the case, yes, she would have suffered too, so she might be entitled to some money. But again, it had been 20 years - long after the time when most people give up all hope.

Also, who said the money was wasted? As you stated, they each had two other kids - they left the money in the trust fund for 20 years and lost all hope. Should it have stayed there? Or should it have gone on to try and create a better life for the children they were raising? Any responsible parent, especially one who struggled with money, would tell you that the money for a child that might never be found, would be better spent on the children they were supporting.

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ashlee I agree. That was not her money in the first place. I am sure if she was found she would of had the money because the parents put it in trust. But that was their decision they did not even have to do that. If it was for the daughter the courts would of put the money in trust. After going through the ordeal of having your child stolen. Which I am sure had something to do with the break up of the family I say they showed a lot of discipline. Most people would of been so distraught they would of taken the cash as soon as they got it and spent it on something thinking it would make them feel better. Tat money was in trust for 20 years. I wonder if she was found at 35 would she feel the same way if her parents spent the money. It was really bad timing because she was not that older then 20 and she just not put in perspective how long that money was in trust. IMO

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FIrst of all, Netty wanting to be loyal to the woman who raised her (aka the kidnapper) could be understandable. But as a mother, she should also realize that if someone had stolen her daughter and kept her for decades - she would not want to be so lenient, so a little understanding was necessary on both sides.
ashlee, I agree with you on netty needing to see it from joy/carls' POV and from the POV of if her[netty's own] daughter Samani was kidnapped.
I think Netty did try, she called, texted and made trips to NY.
joy/carl wanted her to cut off the pettways and move to NY which IMO isnt understanding on their [joy/carl] part.

Yes, I did watch the Behind the Headlines. And it's very easy to explain why the money was not hers: the parents were the ones who suffered. The parents were the ones awarded. The parents were the ones who chose to put the money away with the hope that she would be found while she was a child. The parents were the ones who suffered. Pain and suffering is what they were awarded the money for. Netty didn't even realize she was kidnapped until she was an adult and mother - she did not go her entire life knowing that there was some other family out there that she belonged to. Had that been the case, yes, she would have suffered too, so she might be entitled to some money. But again, it had been 20 years - long after the time when most people give up all hope.
again, if netty wasnt kidnapped would they have had the money? NO.
how is the settlement different from when there is a settlement to an injured infant and the $ goes to the parents? i feel it isnt.
And many times children have sued their parents for misappropriation of their funds.

ann admitted to netty that she wasnt her daughter when netty was pregnant so for 5 yrs netty did suffer, DID wonder who she belonged too. So she too had pain suffering. The hospital was negligent to netty in allowing her ot b kidnapped. She did suffer.

carl/joy had 375k to spend which they did.
in jul 2008 they cashed in netty's 424k and threw it away. i say threw it away bc we do know that they didnt spend it looking for carlina!
didnt spend it on a house ( house in the suburbs, project, or anywhere for that matter

they left the money in the trust fund for 20 years and lost all hope.
and THAT is why netty is sooo hurt and stopped returning calls.
her bio parents gave up, spend the $, but now keep saying they never gave up hope. actions speak louder than words and their actions show that they did give up hope.

Or should it have gone on to try and create a better life for the children they were raising? Any responsible parent, especially one who struggled with money, would tell you that the money for a child that might never be found, would be better spent on the children they were supporting.
IMO the money was wasted. they blew through 424,000 in 2.5 yrs but still live in public housing. they were able to raise their 4 kids for 23 years with out netty's money. they blew through 424,000 in 2.5 yrs. yet they want netty and her daughter samani to move to NY. to where exactly? into the projecs with joy ?


Any responsible parent...
any responsible parent woulnt have given up.
why didnt they use to money for billboards on interstates in/out of nyc?
why didnt they use the money to run copies at kinkos to be put up on subway trains?
to build a website?
why didnt they ask for netty to be on "unsolved mysteries" or oprah/jenny/ricki/donohue/montel. or the new show "finding out missing" ?
...... all of these are things 'any responsible parent' would do.

jaycee's dugard(missing for 18yrs 2 months) didnt have a $750k settlement but she was still searching 18yrs later.
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I definitely agree that Carlina's parents should not have spent any of the money. It was not theirs, and they should not have given up hope. But I don't think Carlina should be mad about that. She should be relieved to be back with people who love her and away from a woman who neglected her and used her for her own selfish needs. I'm fairly certain that either of Carlina's parents would be happy to take her in and support her for the rest of her life. But ask yourself--why does Carlina require that much money? Sounds like greed to me.

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screenScreams,
That much $? REally? joy and carl got $187,500 EACH in 92 and blew it.
Then they blew their bio daughter's $375k!

Why should she be relieved to be with ppl she doesnt know and WHO GAVE UP ON HER IN 2008 when they closed her bank account trust fund? She was and is loved by Aunt Cassie.

When this movie initially aired last year in October 2012, afterwards was a live interview with Netty called Beyond The Headlines where the real Netty, Aunt Cassie, Joy, Carl, real police etc were interviewed.

In that interview Netty's bio parents wanted her to move from GA to NY, the $ could have paid for a place for her. Where was Carlina to live, in the projects with her bio Mom?

Netty needs continued therapy. She was only given 3mo therapy by the National Missing Exploited Children Foundation. As a training hairstylist Netty has no health insurance so no $ for therapy; the money could have helped with that.

Netty needs her cosmetology license, the $375k could have helped with that as beauty school is expensive!
GREEDY IS THE BIO PARENTS. They dissolved the trust in 2008. Netty was found in 2011, 3 yrs later. How the hell did Joy & Carl blow$375,000 in just 3yrs? ALREADY THEY EACH GOT $187,500 IN 1992. Netty got NOTHING and it was bc of her Harlem hospital awarded the $ in the first place!

Netty's bio Mom is STILL LIVING IN LOW IN/SECTION 8 PROJECTS...so she didnt buy a house. She didnt use it to launch a website to find Netty. She didnt start a tip hotline. She didnt put up billboards across the country with netty's abby picture and age progression face...SO HOW WAS THE $ SPENT?
Did they blow it on drugs ? Gambling ?
Netty deserves to know and joy and carl wont even tell her....but they want her to move her and her daughter to NY and call joy and carl mom and die.
Whatever.

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Would you rather be with a neglectful parent who kidnapped you at birth, or a real mother who loves you and just happens to be poor? That's the bottom line.

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. When the trust was liquidated, in 2008...“I have two other kids,” Joy told Today. “And I had to take care of myself. And I had to live.”

this is what joy says about the $.
Joy was able to raise her 2 kids for 18 yrs w/o touching Netty's $.
But all of a sudden you HAD to live ? How were you caring for your 2 kids b4?

G T F O O H W T B S.
i found thishttp://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/following-carlina-whi te-m oney-trail.
joy carl sued in carlina's name.
the money was awarded in carlina's name.
joy carl each spent their $163,000.
they tried to get the money back in 2004, 5 YEARS early.

i think netty sees them trying to get the $ early
and then getting the money and spending it
all in 2008 to mean that carl/joy they gave up on her/carlina.

the $ was put in a trust and yes THEY HAD TO DO THAT PER NEW YORK DISTRICT COURT ORDER.
the $ was monitored and the parents who "never gave up hope, never stopped looking" tried years ago, 5 years early in 2003 to get CARLINA'S MONEY.



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Do you think, if a woman who was not your mother stole you from the hospital and neglected you, that you should forgive her because your real mother didn't have thousands of dollars to give you? What means the most to you? Real love, real care, or money? Let's see how warm money keeps you at night. Her kidnapper didn't have money either.

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As I recall it wasn't completely over the money despite what Joy says there was also some drama over the fact that Carlita testified in court on Pettiway's behalf and still wanted to be associated with her and the rest of the family she grew up with.

Mom to Isabelle, and instant mom to Kayleigh.

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If I was in Netty shoes I would choose my birth parents. I could care less about the money but I would grow to understand that my birth parents needed to move on, what if Carlina was dead that crazy Ann lady killed her. The birth parents did look and look and there is so much you can do. It was a blessing they were able to see her alive and well.

@Eponine if that is the case that is just crazy I couldn't do it if I was her testify on behalf of the person that kidnapped me.


I've seen other kidnapping cases where the child has been missing since birth and after 20 something years reunite with the birth parents. These kids or young adults be so happy to be with their birth parents and want to get to know their birth family over again. Not trying to play the race card but these kids were white, when it comes to money with black people there probably was never going to be a happy ending.

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Yea I agree with you. They had no business blowing Carlina's money. They SHOULDN'T have ever given up on finding her. They put the money in the trust fund for Carlina,IT SHOULD HAVE STAYED HERS! You dont spend someone else's money on your other kids! You just dont do that! Then they try to get her and her baby girl to move to new York. Uh she aint aint gonna pack and move to a new state just like that strangers trying to run her life. I dont blame her for snubbing them.

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I have no idea why they didn't spend every penny on a PI to find the baby

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Joy says she never gave up hope, so if that is true WHY SPEND THE $.
Even though you wrote this a while ago.I seriously hope you come back to this thread.To answer your question.I think you can still NOT GIVE UP HOPE and if something happens in life(hard times)you might end up needing to use the money that you set aside for another reason.Why? because life happens that's why.

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