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Can anyone name a non-dystopian-future film?


A film set in the future where it is BETTER than it is today?

As in less human suffering and with healthier, happier, safer people/communities. And one or some of today's problems have been solved such as: war, poverty, violence, disease, sustainability etc...

Don't just name the film say why the future is better in the film and give examples from the film as to why.

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Hell Comes To Frogtown
If you wanna know why it's a utopia you gotta watch it.

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Well i watched the trailer...

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Hah! I remember that movie from watching it on USA Up All Night with Gilbert Gottfried. I also know why you said theirs was a Utopian society, and it was only true for one gender.

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and it was only true for one gender.


Not necessarily.

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2001: A Space Odyssey (It was only the computer that was 'bad'), and every Star Trek movie.

I just learned how to use the "Spoiler" button...

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In my humble opinion, No one is going to sit through 100 minutes of people in the future being healthy, happy, well-fed, 'safe' and fulfilled, much less Make such a film.

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Star Trek. I'm not going to write an essay for you.

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Was going to point to start trek as well. In most of the movies the future on earth is very positive.

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Was going to point to star trek as well. In most of the movies the future on earth is very positive.

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Yea this I can accept especially old star trek was better than the recent movies where they went back to more of a crappy Earth society.

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I was gonna say Star WARS but then I remembered that it was a long time ago in a galaxy far away. Which makes it strange that there are so many humans running around...:)

"I hope I never get so old I get religious."
- Ingmar Bergman

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Demolition Man, and (kind of) The Purge.

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You are kidding right?

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both my wife and i looked at each other after watching the purge and said, i'd live there in a heart beat. sounds like a great system to me.

also i don't think anybody has said 6th day, 13th floor, Bicentennial Man, real steel, and iRobot(seemed good bar the ai rebellion).

possibly bladerunner, in time, gattaca (all might be better for some more than others but i would like to live there).

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I Robot and Bladerunner (even more so) may be considered dystopian if you enlarge your definition of who is entitled to having rights to include self-aware robots, who are being used there basically as slave labor (the word "robot" itself comes from the Czech language, where "robota" means "compulsory labor"). Bicentennial Man begins from the starting position of such a dystopia, being the story of the emancipation of one such robot.

Gattaca may be considered an ideal utopia, but only by a Nazi. They were keen on purifying society through state-controlled eugenics.

The 13th Floor also seems an interesting choice: the people there lived inside a computer-simulated reality, inside an illusion (an issue later taken on again by Matrix: if you were in Neo's situation, would you choose the red or the blue pill?).

Anyhow, seeing your choices for non-dystopian-future films, and your nicely smiling avatar, I'll presume to suggest another title for your list, maybe you'll like it: Minority Report. Wouldn't a society system that eradicates crime by stopping it before it happens be lovely to live in?

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i don't have a problem with enslaving self aware robots. your point about Bicentennial Man being the same is incorrect, as andrew was the only self aware robot (and he wasn't a slave for most of it).

saying you're a nazi because you believe in some type of eugenics is dumb. And it wasn't state controlled in gattaca, the parents pay for it and private businesses were allowed to discriminate based on it. capitilism in action.

Technically the 13th floor took place in the world you only see for a few seconds at the very end, i wasn't talking about the virtual world.

somebody already said minority report, which is why i didn't mention it.

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It might not come across so well in the movie, but the future in Blade Runner, or at least "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" is highly polluted, to the point where some areas require oxygen masks at certain times of days. Animals are all but extinct, which is why people buy replicant animals to remind them of what is lost. So no, Blade Runner is not possibly a non-dystopic sci-fi.

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both my wife and i looked at each other after watching the purge and said, i'd live there in a heart beat. sounds like a great system to me.
Based on that post, your avatar is very appropriate.

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I wouldn't say Minority Report is a positive future scenario.

No thanks.

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Dang it I was going to be all original and say "Star Trek". Seems I was beat to it!

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2001: A Space Odyssey. Humanity has established a foothold into the cosmos by maintaining a base on the moon. The United States and the Soviet Union seemed to resolved the Cold War amicably. The United States is preparing to launch a deep space mission to possibly verify that humanity is not alone in the galaxy.

Also, there are video phones instead of everyone inanely chattering away on personal phones. Ma Bell was never dissolved (consider how much that stock must have been worth). And apparently the profession of steward has been proven to be a job optimally performed by women

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Minority report because I wouldn't have to spend hours shopping! The Mall tells me what's the best fit for me and where to get it. Nice feature! ;) haha

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lol :)
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Wall-E or Idiocracy?

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All of these are dystopian

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I'm not sure you can dismiss some of these because they have a conflict in them. EG: Minority Report.

A COMPLETELY Utopian film would involve NO conflict whatsoever. It would make a pretty boring story. A happy beginning with happy characters doing happy things until the end...which happens to be happy.

MAD MAX, Waterworld, The Road...these are all dystopian. But Something like Minority Report, Serenity, or PERHAPS even The Purge. I would dare to call utopian by comparison. In these films humanities belief that they have reached utopia is the catalyst for the conflict. I think that may be as close as you're going to get in a story.



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Idiocracy?


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Look at what's on TV these days ... the Idiocracy is already here.

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Jetsons: The Movie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099878/

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Good answer, but, even here there is a shocking lack of sensitivity for the rights of non-humans. Astro can communicate verbally, but he's still treated like an animal; and poor Rosie is relegated to the role of servant.

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I don't understand the push for human rights for robots that some people are obsessed with. First robots haven't asked for human rights yet (won't for a long time anyway) and we don't even know if they will care. I have serious doubts that AI's will even care about being shutdown or terminated until we have The Transcendence scenario (human brains being uploaded) but the only reason they will care is because they are humans.

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Actually, that depends on the definition of AI. A true AI has to be self-aware, otherwise it isn't intelligent. Something that is self-aware may experience shutting down like dying, so I highly doubt they won't care. It's a philosphical discussion we might have to come up with in our generation already: What rights does an intelligent, emphatic computer have?
And you don't neccessarily need human conciences to archieve that (I personally wouldn't want to merge my brain with a computer, even if my concience was uploaded to one, I'd lose my personality and become something new, that isn't me anymore). I personally do think that even a computer can become self-aware if correctly programmed, after all, our brains are nothing but highly advanced computers.

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Something that is self-aware may experience shutting down like dying, so I highly doubt they won't care.

Humans care because they're afraid of death. An AI wouldn't have fear unless it was programmed into it. No amygdala to cause a fight or flight response.

our brains are nothing but highly advanced computers

Our brains are biochemical organs that we have only the most rudimentary understanding of. Computers use millions of tiny on/off mechanical switches to make decisions. We designed computers with no thought whatsoever of making them like brains and they aren't.


What if this weren't a hypothetical question?

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I don't understand the push for human rights for robots that some people are obsessed with. First robots haven't asked for human rights yet (won't for a long time anyway) and we don't even know if they will care. I have serious doubts that AI's will even care about being shutdown or terminated until we have The Transcendence scenario (human brains being uploaded) but the only reason they will care is because they are humans.


That is exactly the point that the show Humans (or movies like The Machine) is trying to make.

If you have feelings and conscience... if you have emotional intelligence, does it matter that, you're not a machine anymore, however synthetic you might physically be.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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