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Why is Quinton WHITE?!?!


I first read this book over 10 years ago and when i saw the cast lineup I thought hmm i don't remember Quinton being white. So I went to my bookshelf and dusted the book off so I could read it again because obviously my memory was alittle bit rusty and low and behold Quinton is a black man with green eyes. Now before anybody get on here trying to call me racist or closed minded or whatever I think Quinton being black is important to the storyline because she specifically went to meet him because he was an African American artist and she wanted to use some of his art for her business.
Now the actor that's going to play him is without a doubt sexy but the relationship definitely has an Olivia and Fitz (Scandal) feel too it and i can't help but think that that is the reason the director decided to make Quinton white.
This question is for the people who has read the book, does it matter to you that they decided to change Quinton's ethnicity? Does it sorta kill the character from the book in your opinion?

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Btw is Tyson Beckford's character suppose to be Tyson from the book and they just changed his name to Corey?

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He was black in the book but in order to give the film crossover appeal they made him white. which i dont think was a good idea. but thats the way the studio thinks. which is surprising to me seeing how its Lionsgate.

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I first read this book over 10 years ago and when i saw the cast lineup I thought hmm i don't remember Quinton being white. So I went to my bookshelf and dusted the book off so I could read it again because obviously my memory was alittle bit rusty and low and behold Quinton is a black man with green eyes. Now before anybody get on here trying to call me racist or closed minded or whatever I think Quinton being black is important to the storyline because she specifically went to meet him because he was an African American artist and she wanted to use some of his art for her business.
Now the actor that's going to play him is without a doubt sexy but the relationship definitely has an Olivia and Fitz (Scandal) feel too it and i can't help but think that that is the reason the director decided to make Quinton white.
This question is for the people who has read the book, does it matter to you that they decided to change Quinton's ethnicity? Does it sorta kill the character from the book in your opinion?



He's not white he's Latino!
Eating my prunes and watching that ass!

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PLEASE!! HE is a white looking latino ok. if he were mario lopez you might have a case.

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Latino is a derivative term meaning someone of Latin speaking heritage. The latin language is historically ascribed to people of European descent a.k.a. white. It is a common misconception of those in the U.S. to associate latino with darker skinned south americans who were conquered and "latinized" by Spain.

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Actually, it's not so much a misconception as a designation for census statistics that the United States began in the early to mid 20th Century.

"White" and "Caucasian" are not synonymous to each other even if some white Americans view things that way.

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Caucasian: white-skinned; of European origin. That's the dictionary definition.


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Used as a noun, sure. Used as an adjective, no. However, what your dictionary should have explained is: that is based on an anthropological terminology that is no longer in use. Let's say it is: as an adjective: I'm correct, as a noun: you're correct.

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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Latino is his ethnicity and white(Caucasian) is his race.

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Wow...It's a movie. But since you are so worked up about it, let me point out to you that William Levy is no where near white. He is Cuban! And so what if it doesn't match up with the book exactly, adapted movies from books rarely do. You sound like these idiots that are upset about "Annie" being played by a black girl. There are a lot of other things in this world to be worried about than who is cast in a movie!

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Wow...It's a movie. But since you are so worked up about it, let me point out to you that William Levy is no where near white. He is Cuban!





Cuban is a nationality not an ethnicity....Ever heard of White Cubans?? Black Cubans?? william levy is a white cuban. christina milian is a black cuban.








There are a lot of other things in this world to be worried about than who is cast in a movie!


PLEASE. Spare us the bullsh!t. IF he or she doesnt like the casting choice they are perfectly entitled to say so. Why are u so worried about somebody elses opinion?? Are u the casting director for the film??

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"So where does Mario Lopez fall? Or Enrique Iglesias? Salma Hayek? etc."

They fall into the same category that Cameron Diaz, Martin Sheen and all his children, Jeremy Suarez (Bernie Mac's nephew on "The Bernie Mac Show"), Christina Aguilera, Alberto Fujimori Fujimori (former president of Peru), and Alfonzo Soriano fall: All Hispanic.

Because Hispanics can be of any race, Hispanic cannot be a race in it of itself. It is an ethnicity.

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Mestizo.

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thank you. I'm a light brown Latina. I hate being categorized! let it be! geez!

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Enrique Iglesias

Spanish, he is a European and white.

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You don't have to be a poster boy for Neo-Nazis to be white. White is not a color it is the colloquial term we use to describe Caucasians. Determining if someone is Caucasian (white) has less to do with eye, hair and skin color and everything to do with cranial shape as explained by anthropologist William Bass among many others.

A Caucasoid skull is identified by:
Little (or no)prognathism
Retreating zygomatic bones
Narrow nasal aperture and a tear shaped nasal cavity.
Hair texture that varies: straight, curly,wavy hair being the most common
Skin color ranges from pale, reddish-white, olive, through to dark brown tones.

So while Enrique Iglesias may not have what you personally consider white features, scientifically he is Caucasian, or white if you prefer.

On the opposite spectrum an actor such as Wentworth Miller, who does have white skin and blue eyes, as a bi-racial man has scientifically Negroid features, therefore you would consider him white based solely on the color of his skin when in fact scientifically he is not white.

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White is not a color it is the colloquial term we use to describe Caucasians.


"Caucasian" does not mean "white". Indians, Middle Easterners, etc... are also classified as "Caucasian" and they are most certainly not considered to be "white".

It's funny that you wrote that list of what is a so called "Caucasian" but don't even realize that it's actually a much broader to term that is consistently misused by many people.

"White" is nothing but a racist term invented by white supremacists to describe primarily Anglo Saxon/Germanic and Nordic people a couple of hundred years ago in order to continue to push slavery in the United States.

One more thing. That nonsense grouping that William Bass created... it is considered to be completely archaic nowadays. Only white supremacists still find value in the groupings known as "Caucasian", "Negroid", "Mongoloid", etc...

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And you completely and absolutely, or intentionally misunderstood my entire reply. Try reading it again slowly with an open mind and you will actually see I am saying exactly what you are, just in a different way. That You do not have to have white skin to be a Caucasian...And nowhere did I say I found value in any race. My entire response was in reply to someone claiming a Spanish European could not possibly be "white" because he didn't have white skin. Get off your high horse and read people's comment without your own prejudices and maybe then you will understand a lot better.

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Oh, I did read your comment. In your comment you wrote this:

White is not a color it is the colloquial term we use to describe Caucasians.

That is what I was replying to. The statement is simply incorrect.

No high horse. Just stating the facts.

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Iglesias is Filipino from his mother's side. So no, he is not white or (fully) Caucasian.

And as JohnBonDon said, your whole premise is incorrect. Being Caucasian doesn't make you white. Being white makes you white.


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The pair of you obviously have some comprehension issues, because that is exactly what I am saying, Caucasian doesn't mean white skinned...maybe if you actually read what I had written and understood it you wouldn't feel the need to call me wrong and then say exactly what I said.

I did not use Inglesias as an example I was replying to someone else who said only white skinned people can be Caucasian.

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The pair of you obviously have some comprehension issues, because that is exactly what I am saying, Caucasian doesn't mean white skinned...maybe if you actually read what I had written and understood it you wouldn't feel the need to call me wrong and then say exactly what I said.


No, that wasn't what you said. You were saying the exact opposite, that "white" and "Caucasian" are synonymous. Let's take a look at some of your words:

-"You don't have to be a poster boy for Neo-Nazis to be white."

You mean to say "You don't have to be a poster boy for Neo-Nazis to be Caucasian".


-"White is not a color it is the colloquial term we use to describe Caucasians."

This is completely backwards. Caucasian is not the color, it is what is (incorrectly) used colloquially to describe white people.


-"Determining if someone is Caucasian (white) has less to do with eye, hair and skin color and everything to do with cranial shape"

Skull is relevant in determining if someone is Caucasian, but not in determining if someone is white or not.



I did not use Inglesias as an example I was replying to someone else who said only white skinned people can be Caucasian.


The person you were replying to said this:
"Since when do white men look LIKE THAT?! As a white man, THATS NOT A WHITE MAN"

He never used the word "Caucasian" at all in the first place.


And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!

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I am having a difficult time trying to fathom why you actually take the time to write out such a reply instead of actually trying to understand what I am trying to say, as boring as it is let me try to explain my original comment, as it seems you are determined to misunderstand it.

When I said "we" use white as synonymous to mean Caucasian I meant the collective "we" as in a lot of people in the world, need an example to help you comprehend?:On the news when the police are looking for a white suspect, they often refer to that suspect as a Caucasian male of * age..." etc...on TV shows when they are trying to identify a body they will often say "a Caucasian of about * age" therefore on a daily basis people use the two synonymously.

In this (the above) context (assuming white and Caucasian are the same) you don't need to be a poster boy for the Neo-Nazi's. Because you want to dissect each and every single sentence instead of reading it as a whole, you have come away with a misunderstanding of what I wanted to say, not that I really care much and this will be my last response to this nonsense, because if you have no inclination to try and comprehend what I am trying to say then I am wasting my time.

Everything I typed after that is assuming if you believe white = Caucasian.
And when it comes to the cranial measurements I did not even use the word Caucasian I used the updated, and scientifically more accepted word "Caucasoid"

Again having said that Caucasians are not specifically white of skin, but just what a lot of people believe is the white race, Inglesias could be Caucasian, (white if you believe that they are the same), I did not know the information that you provided about his mother being Filipino, but that does not mean that Caucasians cannot be anything but white.

Interesting that you choose to run with the Inglesias thing but completely ignore my other very valid example that Wentworth Miller, while being white skinned and blue eyed actually has a black father and is not white or Caucasian, yet solely based on his skin color he would be considered white.

What I was trying to say to the person, who, took no issue with my comment, you're the one getting yourself into a state about it was that Caucasians come in all colors, sorry I didn't explain it out in simple easy bulletin points and upper case letters so that everyone could understand, but as I said my post was meant to be taken as a whole and not analyzed word by word. Sorry if you still do not understand what I was trying to say, but if you are still refusing to understand there's really nothing more I can say about it. I have tried several times to explain my point but you keep insisting you know what I meant...I really think the only person capable of knowing what is in my mind, is me and not a random stranger who likes to argue on IMDB.

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I didn't misunderstand anything in that post as it was written, you just constructed it so poorly that what it says is (apparently) the exact opposite of what you wanted it to. And again, the poster you were replying to never even used the word.

I mentioned Iglesias only once in my first post here. Not sure how that constitutes running with it. But anyway, Miller is white, and you seem to agree he's white, so I don't know what you expected me to say about that.


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there is no boobie shot practically in this movie.. no ladies crotch shot. so damn disappointing. needed to have some white chicks and make it a 1/2 porno for it to be interesting!

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Rainsville27 said:

Why are u so worried about somebody elses opinion?? Are u the casting director for the film??


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Don't get me going about this subject. It is perfectly fine for black women to take their clothes off in movies for white men. But have we seen big name white actress's doing the same with black actors? They have changed characters in books to make sure the black man has no romance with the lead if she is white. Along came Spider changed a young black man into a old black man. Because in the book the black man and the white women fell in love. And it was a main plot point.

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Luckily the internet catalogs everything. Here is a list:

http://www.jeffandcorey.com/EGIL.html

There have been plenty of adaptations where a white character in the book was actually made black also.

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The man playing Quinton is ethnically cuban (latino). He's a very popular telenovela star.
Racially, however, he is white. He might have other mixtures in there, who knows, but white is the dominant.

Latino is not a race. That's like saying North American is a race.

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It's really becoming played out when all we see as the interracial option for Black women is White men. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem seeing Black women with White men; I've dated interracially a few times and I still have White male crushes in Hollyweird. It's just that we see it ALL THE TIME.

For once I'd like to see a Black woman falling in love and/or desiring a Mestizo (non-white Latino), a Native American, an Asian or an Arab. White or Black men are not the only fish in the sea, so I don't see the need for the entertainment industry to push Black women with White men. Let's be honest, that is what they're doing. And it's really unfair because Black actors hardly ever get to share a romance with White women on screen. Hecks, you hardly ever see Black men with Black women, and when you do it's usually a negative relationship.

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First point is fair. There are a few here:

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls008120520/

Second point really isn't fair. BM/WF pairings are hugely common on screen:

Here's just one list with nearly 200 and that's not even counting mainstream TV:

http://www.jeffandcorey.com/EGIL.html

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Exactly---you rarely see black women paired up with other non-white men in movies (the exceptions being films like FAKING THE FUNK, CATFISH AND BLACK BEAN SAUCE,I CAN DO BAD BY MYSELF---and that's only the handful of ones I saw, which obviously ain't a hell of a lot) but white,Latino,Native American and Asian-American women get paired up with white men ALL the time, as if they're the only damn option in the world, and forget that black, Latino, or Asian men exist. Give me a break,for real! But that's how Hollywood operates.

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William Levy is a Latino. A white latino, but a latino all the same.

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It's just white men stroking their egoes.
Remember, Holly(weird) was established by white men (since most builders are men in this patriarchal society) for white people. The fact that other ethnicities by tickets to see their movies is just a bonus, so naturally they want to portray themselves as being "the best there is" . Just look at Star Trek (the original show) as an example. Capt. Kirk gets all kinds of "strange", even humanoid aliens, so it's just a propaganda trick.

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I am miffed that Quinton is white. It totally takes away from the authenticity of the book and makes it no longer "based on the book" and then Tyson's character is Corey when he should indeed be Tyson. I read in a comment below that they made Quinton white to crossover the audience. I say eff the audience. Any fan of Zane's will support this movie because the book rocked....it should have followed the book and made Quinton black as he should be. Can we have one movie where we don't throw in white people that don't belong in it? Also, in the book, they had 3 children, Peter, whom she became pregnant with the first time she had sex with Jason and then the twins. Talk about "based on the book" I DON'T THINK SO!

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