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SHOOT FIRST USE BRAINS LATER!

posted 12 years ago by haron_2005
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To me it seemed that the game warden wanted to just shoot the bear, as soon as he got out of his truck he exclaimed, "Its gonna be me that shoots the bear." He didn't give the grown bear a chance, you blocked off his way to the woods and left only a route to the road, and you even said IF HE GOES TOWARDS THE ROAD I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SHOOT HIM, AND AS SOON AS HE SAW ME HE SHOULD HAVE RAN. but you blocked the woods entrance and the bear was fricken scared. its bull, is that how the wardens in Maine treat the wildlife, shoot first use brains later? What happened to the bear afterwards, did you donate it to science or given to families in need? YOU ARE WRONG, ANIMALS DESERVE BETTER, DON'T ALLOW ALL THESE HOUSES TO ENCROACH ON THEIR ONLY LAND, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO? IT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END.

Also why didn't you sedate the bear and move him not just extreme force (were you showing off for the camera, and trying to make up for something you lack)

Aaron, Wade, and Khloee

[–] drfaroohk 12 years ago

It's...a bear. Get over yourself.

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[–] jasonstickets 12 years ago

Umm yeah its a bear so it should have been shot. Bears are very dangerous animals when they go near humans.

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[–] Benihanahasnofunflare 12 years ago

Poor bear.

[–] Thriller_Queen_2007 12 years ago

They had to shoot the bear, because if they had let it go, it could make its way back into the city. Animal who aren't afraid of people are dangerous. And that is why they had to take care of the bear

[–] GoodCharlotteFrk2010 12 years ago

^^^^ agreeed. Any animal like that that shows no fear of humans is extremely dangerous.

Besides, he has been a warden for what 15 years? And has most likely been around this his whole life, and you're just some idiot who thinks they know everything. & The bear meat was donated to people who could use the meat, it's not like it was put to waste.

[–] Teri313 12 years ago

I live in Maine, I have a 55 acre farm. We have bears in our forest. They are very elusive. These are NOT grizzlies - they're black bears. They would rather run than deal with people. The most trouble we've had is when they come out of hybernation and take our bird feeders. Big deal. And once foliage and berries start growing, they're on their own and don't come around. We have sheep and a llama. They have never been bothered by bears. I'm sorry, but from what I know, this guy looked like he was trying to create some drama for the show. He could have easily darted that bear and taken him up to Rangley or even farther north. That bear would have been very happy. Now he's dead.

[–] i_dont_even_try 12 years ago

I think you're right Teri. Except I imagine it was the show's crew that encouraged the drama rather than the game warden. I found it interesting that his weapon of choice was a shotty rather than of a rifle. It was definitely the right firearm given the circumstances.

[–] sabar-1 12 years ago

This is what I was thinking. Disturbing. I lost respect.

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<<<<<<I live in Maine, I have a 55 acre farm. We have bears in our forest. They are very elusive. These are NOT grizzlies - they're black bears. They would rather run than deal with people. The most trouble we've had is when they come out of hybernation and take our bird feeders. Big deal. And once foliage and berries start growing, they're on their own and don't come around. We have sheep and a llama. They have never been bothered by bears. I'm sorry, but from what I know, this guy looked like he was trying to create some drama for the show. He could have easily darted that bear and taken him up to Rangley or even farther north. That bear would have been very happy. Now he's dead.
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[–] thepartydjz 11 years ago

Animal Planet should be held responsible for these malicious acts, they seem to think shock value is more important than conservation. Time to start setting a better example Animal Planet, shame on you.

[–] MissTexasMcCoy 9 years ago

The most trouble we've had is when they come out of hybernation and take our bird feeders. Big deal. And once foliage and berries start growing, they're on their own and don't come around. We have sheep and a llama. They have never been bothered by bears.

You are lucky then. I am not from Maine but we too have black bears where I live (rural Northern California). Here problematic bears will not only get into trash cans but also break into vehicles, boats, camper trailers, sheds, outbuildings, garages, and sometimes even houses to get to something they perceive as a food source. They break through windows like they're not even there, ransack buildings, and will tear the hell out of your vehicle. Some are not afraid to kill pets or livestock that they perceive to be a threat. True, most bears are naturally timid and afraid of people, and it is rare to see one. But once a bear loses it's natural fear of humans, they tend to become chronically problematic and very difficult to rehabilitate, if not impossible. For these sorts of bears relocation often does not work because it will still continue seek out people in it's new location in order to find a food source. If the warden had not shot the bear in question, it's highly likely someone else would have, eventually.

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[–] 84fiero123 9 years ago

I also live in Maine, not only live in Maine but have a farm as well with bears outback on not only our 25 acres but the 60+ acres of woodland behind our property. As well as knowing a couple of the wardens personally, the last thing any of them WANTS to do is hurt or kill any of the animals here or anywhere else.

Remember the animal was not acting normally, normally they are afraid of humans and if they are not that is a clear sign that they can be a threat to the human in the area. If they are not afraid of you and come at you you are in danger, lets face it a human unarmed is no match for a bear, what are you going to do say here you go fella just go on your way to down town and we will wait for you to hurt a human before we do anything that might harm you?

Who ever said just tranquilize him, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Tranquilizers take time to work, something like 10 min, if the dosage was correct. and in that time they can do some serious damage.

Something tells me those 2 people who said those things are members of PETA who would rather see people hurt than an animal. If you live around these animals like many of us do here in Maine you know when they are acting normal and when they are not, that bear didn't act normally in any way, it was a danger to anyone who might have come in contact with it, some kid out playing might make the mistake of thinking like those two commenters who think they are just cuddly teddy bears and would never hurt a sole. They aren't, they are wild animals and can be very unpredictable in situations they are not familiar with.

Steve

[–] mysticwit 9 years ago

Good points. There is no way a television show can show everything involved in the decision to kill there bear. But it showed a lot that made it a rational decision.

This wasn't in the middle of nowhere, it was in a city, by a highway, and had been tracked through multiple streets. It was around the time of a morning commute and kids going to school. It was not showing normal fear.

Bears can move very fast so trapping or tranquilizing wasn't an option by the time the bear was shot.

It only takes a few seconds for things to get very bad, very fast, either as an attack, or a collision. Those claws and teeth aren't decorative, and they can move very fast.

I've seen how much damage a small bird can do hitting a windshield, and I know that hitting a can total a car, or kill a child.

There is no way a television show can show the entire process of getting the report of the bear to the decision to kill it and why. But they showed enough. This wasn't a producer's decision, police called in the wardens. The story made the news, too: http://www.pressherald.com/2011/09/23/black-bear-killed-in-portland/

I love animals, and I was sad to see that the bear had to be put down, but there are legitimate reasons for putting down animals. There was no malice or negligence involved that I could see. And it's important to acknowledge the meat wasn't wasted. Like in other areas, that meat was donated to soup kitchens.

And when it comes to bears, like other human/animal interactions that end badly, it's often because other humans -- not the wardens -- are to blame for their lack of fear (feeding them, not properly disposing of food waste and trash, etc.)

[–] MissTexasMcCoy 9 years ago

Wise reply. I was thinking the very same things. Once bears lose their natural fear of humans, they become extremely difficult, if not impossible, to rehabilitate. No amount of relocation fixes that. They will continually seek out humans as a source of easy food and become problematic wherever they find something man-made to get into, and teach their cubs to behave the same way. If the wardens had not shot the bear, someone else would have, eventually.

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[–] jimcat63-1 9 years ago

Tranquilize him? Are you serious? With what?
Do you imagine that, even if they could, an angry bear just drops in his tracks from a T-dart? It takes several minutes. It also pisses them off.

Gme Wardens are just as culpable as any policemen when they use deadly force. This was filmed and the Warden was judged to be justified.

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[–] mcolby-125-523976 8 years ago

At least they did something, a few years ago we had two bears in our backyard that would not leave. I have pictures of them next to my kids trampoline and swingset in the middle of the day. My husband got as close as a few feet from one banging pans trying to get them to leave and they just stared at him.
I called NH fish and game and their advice "if they are still there in 3 or 4 days call us back". Meanwhile my children couldn't play outside for several days and even going to our cars was scary. They did finally leave but only after four days.