Neesons car


I really liked the car, can anyone tell me what car Liam Neeson was driving please?

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it looked like a mid 80s camaro/firebird which wouls have never been able to keep up with a 2014-15 charger but we will suspend belief! Lol

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It was a 85' Camaro. But i think it was modified.

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You don't know what you're talking about.

It's dead simple to put a built small block with or without a supercharger or a turbocharger in 3rd gen F-body. It's also fairly easy to put a big block in one as well.

Additionally, F-bodies are at least 500lbs lighter than a 14-15 Charger, their suspensions are easy to upgrade with subframe connectors, watts linkage, tubular rear trailing arms and adjustable MacPherson struts in front and can achieve lateral acceleration number well over 1.0Gs. Thus they handle better and can go faster in the curves than a Charger, which is a sedan.


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it looked like a mid 80s camaro/firebird which wouls have never been able to keep up with a 2014-15 charger but we will suspend belief! Lol

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It's a movie nor a documentary

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@ loki. Obviously ANY car can be modified but did that car look like it was well taken care of or upgraded? did the neeson character look like the kinda guy in this movie to build a muscle car or just some down on his luck guy driving whatever he could afford. A betting man takes the car with 350 hp and 6 spd slap stick auto. Not the small block 155 hp 30 year old POS which may or may not start on any giving day. Just sayin.

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There's a school of thought among automotive aficionados which pride themselves in making highly modified performance vehicles that at least superficially appear to be stock.

Have you ever seen a car with a Trust me, it's stock. bumper sticker on the back, rest assured, it's most definitely not. I don't recommend racing for pink slips with them.

Then there are rat rods which the object is to make a car or bike look like it was just rescued from a junk yard scrap line.

Both usually hide highly built and capable autos or bikes.

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I get what you are saying.

Not trying to make an argument out of this, but watching the movie back, as a car guy I never thought for a moment that, that car was a "sleeper". Nothing about the movie made me think his character was street racing people for pink slips. IMO that was a plain ole 80s rust bucket Camaro that didn't have its suspension & trans upgraded, the motor swapped out for something that could not only run with a modern police cruiser but overtake it fairly easily (it caught up with relative ease). It would have also needed larger brakes and fatter tires to handle all that new found speed yet it had stock wheels on it. If the producers dressed up the car a bit, and actually made it look like the main guy took an interest in his ride like he did his booze, I might have bought it.






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I can't believe that you keep coming back (with nothing IMO). The car sounded modified to me and they made it clear that it was a manual transmission. Also, he was a professional hit man. It makes perfect sense that he would have a very nondescript looking car that could perform exceptionally when it needed to. If that's not what they were portraying, why not just have him in a Camry?

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Him driving a slightly more modern sports car would have made more sense. Nothing stands out about a guy in an 80s camaro...?? LOL @ trying to blend in in that car... "very nondescript" my arse. You don't see many of them on the road any more so you would remember seeing one if he was indeed trying to fit in. It would have made more sense if he was trying like a silver or black 2006 Mustang GT being that its 2015, most any 30 year old car will stand out.

Of course the car sounded modified, they always add in sound to enhance the experience. Notice the pavement was wet too, it always is in car chase scenes like that. That's done intentionally as well.

I'm sorry but you guys are reaching with this modified horsecrap.

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You do remember that he's retired, right? Probably hasn't upgraded his car in a while. And no. That car wouldn't stand out at all. It looked like a heap.

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Again, I'm not saying it's not possible...just didn't buy it.

if you want to suspend belief, thats why we watch the movies to begin with.



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Meh. An older, stick shift Camaro that sounds pretty snappy just seems a little strange to me if there wasn't more to it.

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What does stick shift have anything to do with it? My 2015 A4 is stick, but it can't run with a 2015 charger. Power is power. Stick shift was more common in 1985 than it is today and is completely irrelevant.

The sad part is, the new auto transmission are faster than manuals, which is why most modern day cars are switching to paddle shifts w/ dual clutch autos.


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Again, we're talking about an older car not a paddle shift (which are actually not automatics in the traditional sense) race car of today. Older Camaros with stick shifts were regarded as more of a high performance version than the automatics.

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The reality is in year 1985 stick shifts were considered cheaper, and thus more common. It made the car more fun and only slightly faster in reality. Either way, that original trans would have been dropped out for a stronger one if the car was modified heavily with say 3X the original power (approx 465 hp).

Yes, paddle-shifters are automatic in the traditional sense, since there is no manual clutch on the floor and the computer shifts for you. Most of the time gear selection is optional to use. Even top end sports cars like Nissan GTRs & Audi R8s / R10s are moving towards non-manual transmissions.

It's sad really because while they might be faster, than are certainly not more fun to drive.



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Nope. I've been in automotive for over 30 years and ALL the gearheads wanted stick shift Camaros (which were not very common at all in those years) for street rods and those old Borg Warner T5 gearboxes were pretty sturdy and could take quite a bit of extra horsepower.

You might want to read up on paddle shifters. Most of them are VERY different than traditional automatics.

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Technically autos were more popular but also more expensive in the 80s for the Camaro, mainly based on consumer demand. Clearly more kids & women were into them at the time. That's my only guess.

You might want to read up on paddle shifters. Most of them are VERY different than traditional automatics.
yea, except they both share one common trait, when you don't have to take your foot off the gas to shift, you are driving an automatic. No clutch on the floor = automatic. I don't care that it has 2 clutches and one is holding the next gear in place ready for your finger to push the paddle. You can keep that sh(t.






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My main point when responding to the OP, was the stock car I see in the movie absolutely COULD NOT run with any modern day police cruiser. To say so is a complete joke. I would be willing to bet that 50% of the cars on the road today would eat this thing alive because they have way more power on tap and fewer miles on them.

If you have to completely swap out a cars motor for something bigger & better, it's not really that car any more is it? It's kinda like Nascar; some fiberglass, roll-cage and a big motor add some paint and call it an Impala.

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And my point (and other's) was that the car would have been in all likelihood, a modified "sleeper".

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Maybe, we will never know.

BUT The fact was this stock car was relatively slow, esp when compared to current cars.

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No one disputed that.

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That's all Ive been saying since before you replied to a 3 month old thread.

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Yeah, but you also said:

I'm sorry but you guys are reaching with this modified horsecrap.


Which is what I disagree with. Sorry. I didn't know that I exceeded the time limit for responding :)

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In my opinion, you are reaching, because there's no evidence on screen to suggest it was. Nothing was altered, not the hood, rims, gauges, etc. Saying it sounded modified implies that was that actual car you were hearing on the audio, which isn't the way movies really work. Chances are, that car was a P.O.S. that they could bang around in the movie and not have to worry about it impacting the budget.

You didn't exceed the time limit for posting, but I seriously can't believe we are still talking about this...in reality it was just a movie and this car chase never even happened.

I only replied because you made it sound as if I didn't know what I was talking about. When in reality you (and others) are only making assumptions that the vehicle was modified but brought no facts to the table; not one.




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You're making assumptions too and brought no facts to the table. In fact, the way the car sounded make it MORE likely that it was modified. I've NEVER heard a stock Camaro sound like that.

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You're making assumptions too and brought no facts to the table. In fact, the way the car sounded make it MORE likely that it was modified. I've NEVER heard a stock Camaro sound like that.

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If you read back through the thread, I brought plenty of facts about the stock car's inability to run with modern vehicles. The 155hp being the main argument. My assumption was that it was stock, because the car looked like a dumper. I can't prove it was.

Your assumption was that it was heavily modified, but you can't prove it was.

We are just going to have agree to disagree on this one, but I do appreciate you keeping me entertained at work.

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Yes. BUT as I said, no one disagreed with you about the stock car's abilities so bringing that up repeatedly is meaningless in the conversation.

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Bringing up the fact that it could have been modified is just as meaningless for several reasons. #1) Any car can be modified. #2) you cant prove it was 3#) this event never even happened.

I get it though, you want to have the last word..so go for it



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Nice straw-man but no. The disagreement was about whether the car was modified or not. There was no contention over the performance of a stock Camaro but your efforts to save face are duly noted :)

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Yea because i needed to. Good try. Sounds to me like your a fan boy in all honesty

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lol. Nice chatting.

Cheers.

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by re17 ยป Fri Oct 30 2015 14:13
Bringing up the fact that it could have been modified is just as meaningless for several reasons. #1) Any car can be modified.

Not all cars would be modified equally - or could be ...
Evidence for modification: the cars sounds and performance on screen.
Evidence against modification - the car does not look modified - HENCE - it is a "sleeper".

#2) you cant prove it was

See #1 - also - this should be said - it is a MOVIE.

3#) this event never even happened.

Exactly.

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