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How the hell did she survive?


The second shot with the shotgun?
He shot her twice with the shotgun, we see the news paper headline that he killed her after she killed their son so that would suggest the police saw her body and took it away. Even the bit where Joe Swanson's character is looking out the window and he says "I shouldn't have taken that second shot" would suggest he killed her so how the hell was she still alive??

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She didn't. It was just Patrick's hallucination, which IMO threw the whole film off course. I seriously thought that this was going to turn into a "Prisoners" movie after that scene!


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Yeah, when I made the OP I had it on pause just after that scene because it confused and annoyed me that much. That part was completely pointless IMO and it just seemed like the directer was just trying to make the film more weird n complex for the sake of it. It was an interesting film on the whole, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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I'd recommend watching a film in its entirety before asking questions. To interrupt a story and its pace to go online and find an answer? How disrespectful. This interruption might have had something to do with how you now perceive the film. It was a small cog in a large device, it wasn't just trying to make the film complex.

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I recommend not replying to posts that are over a year old lol.
I barely even remember this film.

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I see. Whatever opinion or statement you made that's over 365 days old, holds absolutely no merit. Good to know! Sound advice.

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oh thanks for explaining that. it really confused me. And I thought it was just bad continuity when the blood disappeared off his shirt when he went outside haha.

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Oh and yeah I thought it was gonna go down the "Prisoners" route too!
TBH I probably would have preferred it if it did.

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I can't even fathom how anyone could be confused by that scene. The director wasn't trying to pull any tricks or make it needlessly complex; it was very obviously his imagination, and he even spells it out (before and after that scene) that he can't stop fantasizing all day about how he could have tortured her instead. The blood on his face and on his shirt is gone when he steps out of the house too.

I guess any movie with dream scenes, hallucinations, time jumps or unreliable narrators must be hell for you. Did you sit there scratching your head when she was interviewed on TV and then the other girl was again in her house? That's pretty crazy how they got themselves in the same stand-off situation twice, eh?

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Calm down, mate. There's no need to insult me. Like I said, I had it paused after the part where he pulls her out of the bath tub when I made the OP.
I wasn't even completely in to the film TBH. I was pretty bored through most of it.

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Thanks mate lol.

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Oh, she def didn't survive that scene. If you remember, when Patrick was talking to Mel, he said "I wish I didn't do it. I wish I never took that second shot" (Started making us think that he regretted shooting her). Then he said, "I have all them tools downstairs, I could've done it right, I could have figured out who she was, and figured out why she killed our boy". Patrick at that point had no clue who she was, and he was basically envisioning what he would have been doing to her, had he kept her alive. That second shot def took Escther's head off. If you look at the blood spatter on Patrick when he leaves the basement, and goes to her truck. You'll see his face and shirt are covered, but when he goes out the actual door the blood is gone completely off his clothes and face. As he enters the door again, you'll notice the blood is right back where it was, before he left the house. He was basically crazy at that point. Honestly, I think this was A ploy from the writer, to make us the viewer show, that he had messed up thoughts, and flaws just like the rest of the characters in the film. I guess in someway justified, how at the end when he killed him off, that he wasn't so much A victim himself, because he was equally nuts. This movie touched on at least 4 different mental health diagnoses's, from the four characters involved. I don't buy that he was always having them thoughts though, and his were forced because of circumstance. If someone killed my Daughter, I'd have them thoughts and then some. Patrick was A victim through and through.

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