What was Gaspar Noe saying?


I watched the film on vacation and went nuts when I couldn't understand what Noe was saying. Does anybody have any idea?

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He is basically saying that on Pusher, it was incredible how Refn was able to capture the reality of underworld people, opposed to the fact that Refn lives a really peacefull and sane life, without drug or violence.
Later on, he talks about the fact that beyond violence, Refn's movies talks about being able to be close to someone you truly love to escape the hell you're into. he quotes the final of Pusher II to emphasize this.
Hope it helps !
L.D.

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Thanks a bunch!

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