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Disney obviously allowed this movie to get this far.....

posted 11 years ago by daltonmania
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its obvious that Disney had involvement with this film and is USING the cover of a UNGRGROUND INDIE director and actors in a NEW CORPORATE way to boost favor with the genratiion X, Y and Z's of today. Its not about making money and or lawsuits, because the disney people are well documented as being worse than scientologists about thier reputation and have sued for much much less. This whole movie and underground word-of-mouth marketing is just a new strategy to gain marketing value to a set of people who would never think of going to a disney park. This kind of movie now adds "kitch" value or factor to a park once only seen as a "childrens park". It also intentionally skewers the fervor of its fans because any successfull reality tv show of any topic these days does the exact same thing; it turns the people into flawed anti-heroes for peoples enjoyment and amusement.

Watch as many videos of the director and actors sundance and other interviews. Their eyes shift alot, and body language are very telling that they are not being honest about the production of this movie. No matter what they say.

Now I am basing my comments on careful viewing of the trailers and interviews from the 'filmmakers' from all over youtube, internet experiences with lovers and haters of disney, and general knowledge of the history of disney and its practices from several books currently published: (Mouse Tales: A Behind-the-ears Look at Disneyland, Tinker Belles and Evil Queens: The Walt Disney Company from the Inside Out by Sean P. Griffin, Team Rodent : How Disney Devours the World, Who's Afraid of the Song of the South? And Other Forbidden Disney Stories by Jim Korkis )

once i see the film from start to finish, i doubt my views will change much.

[–] diamondjc2005 11 years ago

I watched it last night and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I feel completely duped. Lol

[–] bringonthelucie 11 years ago

I seriously doubt you're right. This movie has all the makings of something pretty personal and as much as it takes Disney iconography into account, a little more effort put into it would have been better to imply that this was some kind of viral marketing move on them.

[–] Toltex 11 years ago

Yep! the message seemed a bit like, "young or old Disney can make your dreams come true"

"its only 8 o'clock and you're already bored,you don't know what it is but there's gotta be more"

[–] kidjay83 9 years ago

I feel completely duped.

What about it made you feel duped ?

Humankind cannot bear very much reality

[–] HereComesSadness 11 years ago

Yeeeah, if you think Disney would sign off on a movie about a guy stalking underage girls in their park on top of the twisted culture-jamming horrific imagery, then you need to lay off the crack. I think you should actually SEE the movie before spouting off. The entire thing isn't even filmed in the park, some of it is greenscreened.

I'm not sure what kind of clientele they would be pulling for this film. This movie would be the worst ad for visiting a Disney theme park ever, and I'm sure the people who made the film (as well as Disney) would be well aware of that.

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[–] Indifferent_Observer 11 years ago

I am pretty sure Disney had nothing to do with allowing this film to get "so far".

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

I really cannot believe Disney didn't know about this or was involved in some way.

There are some shots that a regular person going into the parks could never get.

One shot near the end, Near the end of the movie they start showing clips of different parts of the parks and different rides, Then one clip is when one of the rides is stopped at the end of the night, the ride is shut off, or turned off for the day. You can see the ride cars stopping.

there is no way a regular person is going to be able to record that. Unless they asked the cast member to shut down the ride for them or something. regular people are not there when the rides are turned off at the end of the night.
Unless the ride broke down or something, But then there would be other guests in the line.

there were a couple of shots that again, could not be done unless they had help from a disney employee or something. Some shots of the park completely empty, I do not think could be done unless they were done by someone that was working there

Unless they paid someone or asked for help, But that would mean someone working in disney were helping them, I mean a regular worker like a ride attendant or a janitor even, But there is no freaking way this was shot all from regular guest visits to the parks. Some shots really are impossible.

One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

One shot near the end, Near the end of the movie they start showing clips of different parts of the parks and different rides, Then one clip is when one of the rides is stopped at the end of the night, the ride is shut off, or turned off for the day. You can see the ride cars stopping.

Picture this:

Disneyland Guest: "Hey, mind if I get a shot of you switching the tracks off?"
Disneyland Employee: "Uhm... sure, bud. Whatever floats your boat."

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

You have no idea how parks work do you?

I am surprised I have to explain this but here we go....
As someone that has worked in theme parks I can tell you, They wouldn't do that.
First of all the park is crowded all day long, Specially Magic Kingdom.

So the tracks couldn't be asked to be turned off because of people waiting in line.
Second, they are not going to shut down an entire ride for some guest asking... if anything that will get the manager called, That would be such a weird request that they would probably get the manager involved.

but lets just say for the sake of argument that they wait until the park closes. BUT AGAIN. They wouldn't turn the ride off with a GUEST IN THE LINE...
The person recording wouldn't be allowed to be there by the time they turn it off.

Remember that this is being said because they "Filmed the movie in secret where no one knew what was going on"
Also imagine if any random guy asked them to turn off the ride? how ridiculous are you?

the only way to get that shot is to either be friends with the workers or Disney being in on it.
they would have to be friends with the person operating the ride.

I honestly can't believe I had to explain all that just now... come on, think a little

One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

Where did I claim the cameraman persuaded the employee to turn the ride off? And where did I claim anyone was waiting in line? In order to support your conspiracy theory, you've concocted these elaborate scenarios whereby it would be unlikely to achieve the shot, while ignoring a very simple one whereby it could be achieved. It's an opportunistic shot. He just had to be there when they switched the track off and pretend like he was some fairground nerd. Maybe it's against protocol to allow customers to loiter, maybe the employee didn't care or failed to notice, or maybe it was an open area, with shops and cafes nearby.

I honestly can't believe I had to explain all that just now... come on, think a little

That's the thing, you didn't have to, 'cause it had nothing to do with what I suggested. Come on, think a little.

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

I've worked in parks.... NO ONE is allowed there when they are turning off the rides unless you work there...
I make this point because this movie was supposed to be shot in secret. That's the whole point, they were just regular guests in the park like everyone else.

But Unless you know someone in the park or they were in on it. Simply, No guest would be in that line when they were turning off the rides. it is not possible as a regular guest. You CANNOT be Allowed where they were as a regular guest. The park is closed by the time they turn off everything...

You could say the ride broke down and they were lucky to film that, but that would be one in a million shot.
The fact is some of those shots only proves that Someone at Disney had to know this movie was going on. Even if it was a manager or something. So this movie was not as "secret" as they claim it to be.

One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

Your point about the ride breaking down proves there are exceptions (and hardly a one in a million shot; I'm sure rides being shut down is a very routine occurrence), that there's not some unimpeachable rule that prevents the possibility. Claiming that this brief shot 'proves' Disney's complicity is false. The only thing it proves is that someone filmed a ride being shut down. All the rest is your own fevered conjecture. The best you could claim would be that it raises a suspicion, but that wouldn't make for quite such a sensational story, would it?

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

whatever. unlike you i've actually worked with rides and I've been to Disney countless times. For them to get that shot if the ride did break down they would have had to hold the line and take the shot. Which they wouldn't freaking let you do.

do you understand that theme parks (specially someone as big as Disney) have rules? do you understand that they cannot allow guests to hold the line or something like that? do you understand that there were probably 50 people waiting in line if the ride did break down? Any way I see it, they had to have had help from someone. Doesn't matter how much in denial you are. The fact is they wouldn't let some random person do this. you are just ignorant about Theme park rules. But that's okay. I understand talking to you it's like trying to explain to my dog why he shouldn't eat his own poo, it's pointless.

One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

whatever

Quite.

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

you obviously have no idea how theme parks work lol
One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

Well, you have no idea what 'proof' means. I know which position I'd rather be in.

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[–] bringonthelucie 11 years ago

So do you completely believe everything the filmmakers have written and said about this movie's production history?

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

Uhm, no. How might you in any way deduce that from what I've said? I've not seen/heard what the filmmakers have written and said about this movie's production history. But I certainly don't take as writ whatever any anonymous, attention-starved dweeb and self-declared expert these boards happen to throw up declares.

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[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

Have you ever been to a theme park? like in person?
have you ever been to Disney World? Im serious, I didn't realize it before but now it sounds like you have probably never set foot in a theme park before. Now it all makes sense...
if that is the case then, sorry for the arguments. Obviously you have no idea how these things work. And I am sorry you are so naive and brain dead....

Actually it could be one of two things. ONE you have never visited Disney (or any theme park, which is kind of obvious)
or TWO, you are somehow involved with this project, which is unlikely, but cases of people arguing for their projects have happened before.

I still think you just have no idea how theme park rides are supposed to work, and your ignorance makes you be so aggressive

or you are just a troll which could also be the case seeing your other posts here, trying to get people all riled up with your nonsensical posts. (seems like you like irritating people)
Either way you are pretty odd .

One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[–] AssetsonFire 10 years ago

or you are just a troll which could also be the case seeing your other posts here, trying to get people all riled up with your nonsensical posts. (seems like you like irritating people)

Ironic, coming from the jobsworth weirdo who stalks me round this website, feebly pleading for attention. Your trolling has been deleted, you may now resume worshiping your papier mache Mickey Mouse effigy.

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[–] reaseltbim 10 years ago

deleted?what do you mean cus?

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[–] bringonthelucie 11 years ago

Settle down, it seemed to me like you were defending the filmmakers' statements because you've shut down any assumptions that have been made that contradict it. I think I can understand what you are saying better now, though. I apologize.

Anyway, I asked a friend of mine who worked at Disney World how they could have gotten those shots and she said "Either they knew somebody, they were in on it or they were bribed."

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[–] filmmaker1983 11 years ago

yeah, of course Disney wouldn't admit they were involved. I agree entirely that the shots at the end seemed very usually possible to have done without being in there before the park opened. Sure, there are several points throughout the night, even during the day, that some areas have almost NO ONE in, but each one of these areas?

Of course some shots were blue screened, and were obvious. I'm just surprised all of the Disney IP and cast members in the scenes were in the film and that's just all OK.

Very unusual film, and I had entirely different expectations. If I had the chance to do this, obviously the movie would be entirely different.

I'm also surprised at how ballsy they are by putting up on their website that "X many days have gone by since the film release, without us getting sued", not to mention a Disney gift card for the contest prize!

Oh well, I must say I liked the guerrilla film BEFORE this "Missing in the Mansion" WAY BETTER.

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[–] bringonthelucie 11 years ago

I find their website and Twitter incredibly smug, just going to show that this movie is probably nothing more than a gimmick.

[–] JetMechJ79 11 years ago

I have three words (Blair Witch Project). How many remember thinking this was real and made from "found" footage, only to find out (after it made its money) that is was faked. That's what this film is counting on, word of mouth that it was completely filmed without Disney knowledge and then at some point when all the hype is gone it will be revealed that in fact is was made with Disney permission. People who will have paid to see will of course cry foul and the whole story will be told, then the film will be forgotten, after all the money was made. Blair Witch and Escape from Tomorrow don't happen without the internet and all the people who prowl for this kind of attention.

Don't believe me, read the stories about ANYONE using anything Disney (font, likeness, similarities) and be sued to cease and desist. Disney doesn't take kindly to anyone profiting or tarnishing their image.

[–] AssetsonFire 11 years ago

once i see the film from start to finish, i doubt my views will change much.

Great punchline. So, you haven't even seen the film and yet you're prepared to disregard it as Disney propaganda on the basis that 'the director looks shifty in interviews'? Cretin.

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[–] phinary 11 years ago

Totally agreed. All the Disney iconography in the trailers? The incessant repetition of how "this movie shouldn't exist"?

Obvious corporate viral marketing is obvious.

[–] the_mystickal_stranger 9 years ago

i like your thoughts. there seems some substance behind this...

are there some documentaries you would recommend if one is interested in disneys more darker sides?