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... And Justice for All; the last amazing Metalllica album

posted 10 years ago by Rylant
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Sadly, it's been over 25 years since Metallica's last amazing album. From beginning to end. Kill 'em All was good, but it was definitely an album which broke them in, and helped find their way. Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice for All were all flawless, brilliant albums. Since then, they have done some good material all intermingled with a lot of horrible material. A few good moments here and there, surrounded by crap. The also used to be the best live band on the planet. Sadly, things will never be the same. Thanks for the memories, Metallica. It was a good run.

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[–] ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony 10 years ago

I personally liked The Black Album, Load/Reload, and Death Magnetic. Never cared for St. Anger.

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[–] Bhoooop_Daahuut 10 years ago

Black album is very good, I think. Particularly with hindsight. As a teenager, when it first came out, myself and most of my peers felt let down that it was a bit more commercial. But looking back now, I'd say it was their last 'essential' album.

Load/Reload drove me away from them completely until St Anger, which I actually regard as being okay. Bold, a bit sparse and unrefined in places, but not bad.

Death Magnetic is better. But it feels a bit like a tribute ablum.

[–] wickerman1271 (940) 2 years ago

all crap , Metallica ended with ...And Justice For All

[–] snarkypaul 10 years ago

I'm with you although I felt "Ride The Lightning" should have been called "A Few More Songs Dave Wrote". But, they eventually took off the Mustaine training wheels and were an established talent by "...And Justice For All". Then the Grammy nominations started coming in, they had to make a choice between being loyal to the fans who traded tapes (Lars didn't have a problem with it then) and got them where they were or releasing an entire album full of "One". The "Black Album" was our answer. My mom liked that album. I was using it as a coaster anyway so I gave it to her and haven't bought a Metallica album since.

[–] ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony 8 years ago

To be honest, Kirk wrote a good amount of material on Ride the Lightning. I believe I heard the song Creeping Death was originally a song Kirk wrote for Exodus but brought it with him when he joined Metallica. Plus, in my honest opinion, Megadeth can't really touch Metallica's first four albums, not even Peace Sells or Rust In Peace are as good as Metallica's records from Kill 'Em All to And Justice For All. Basically, I feel Metallica proved they didn't need Mustaine by having four albums Megadeth can't touch. But that's just my humble opinion.

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[–] jerentotten2 10 years ago

I'd argue that the Black Album was their last great once since Nothing Else Matters is their best track, though the rest on that album for the most part isn't too great.

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[–] Druff 9 years ago

I basically agree. First album was a great start, but the trilogy of Ride, Puppets and Justice was the band at their peak and it's all been downhill from there. I like every Metallica album to some degree, but those three albums are untouchable.

I admit I'm biased though... Right after they released Puppets, a metal head at my high school kinda forced me to listen to it on his walkman. I told him "Dude, get this crap away from me, Metallica is just typical hippy music." I had heard Ride the Lightning before, but back then to my adolescent hardcore punker ears it might as well have been Quiet Riot. He said "You're always wearing DRI and COC shirts, I guarantee you'll love this if you just give it a chance." I borrowed his walkman thinking I'd listen to a song or two just to shut him up, but at the end of the day after listening to the whole thing I gave it back to him and on the way home I stopped at Music Plus to buy my own copy. Puppets will always be my favorite album. The black album is my least favorite. Yes, I even like St. Anger more.

[–] erock52184 9 years ago

I'm 31 and I will admit that the first metallica song I actually heard was "Until It Sleeps" when I was 12. I really loved it and my friend's older brother goes, "dude if you like that then check out this..." and he let me borrow his master of puppets album. I'm sure you can figure out the rest haha.

[–] Dust_Indotex 9 years ago

It was either Justice or the Black album that I first heard when I was about 12 or 13 in about '92 and then for the next five years, I became obsessed with Metallica to the point of joining their fan club and practically only listening to them. And then Load and Reload came out. Each of them had their good songs and each had their crappy songs. I finally saw them live in '98 on their Reload tour and I can say that although their performances of "One" and "Puppetts" were truly epic, the show itself left me a little disappointed. Mainly because they played a few songs acoustic. Some of their songs would be great acoustic, but not Four Horsemen or Last Caress/Green Hell which or two of the songs they played.

And through the fan club, I got to do a quick meet and greet with James & Jason. James was a complete a$$hole (he flicked me off because I was watering a Calgary Flames shirt, I've got the picture to prove it) but Jason was really cool and made me feel like he truly appreciated his fans whereas James was the opposite.

And I have no desire to get St. Anger, although from the few songs I've heard from Death Magnetic on Pandora, I think I'm going to get that album.

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[–] jmtoten 8 years ago

Nah. Load and Reload were also amazing. As was Death Magnetic.

[–] tarheelpup 8 years ago

The first four albums were fantastic. Black Album was OK for what it was. A bit of good stuff here and there since then. Load/Reload was simply a hash/rehash of the same ideas. I don't care what the internal issues were with the band at the time but "St. Anger" was the worst album I've ever heard by anyone. In "Some Kind Of Monster" Bob Rock says he was looking for the sound of an amateur band in the garage and by that yardstick it may be the most successful recording in history because it was certainly amateurish and the production sounds like a cheap boombox recording a six month old group in a drafty garage. And with so much filler material that they've released (Binge and Purge, S&M, Garage,INC, LuLu) over the years I think we can now safely say that the best years are behind them. Now they are no longer "Metallica" they are "The World's Greatest Metallica Cover Band". And I might argue that point as well.

Dave Mustaine has pretty much outdone them at every turn over the last 25 years. If you don't believe me go listen to the newest Megadeth album, Dystopia. Best thing they have done in many years. Can't say that about Metallica.