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That one kid in his dorm room

posted 9 years ago by ilikeswitchfoot
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I'm so glad they interviewed him because all he does is justify exactly what was wrong with Penn State "culture". I mean earlier in the documentary he talks about how mad he was that people were caring about what was happening instead of focusing on the game against Nebraska. How he was mad that he had to talk about how he was sad for those boys. Then later on he's mad the NCAA for saying that, "they don't care about anything but football". It's like how out of touch can he be?

Also love how he tried to call the riot a protest, you know cause when white people do it it's a protest.

I no longer know who I am and I feel like the ghost of a total stranger.

[–] pkloa 9 years ago

They showed us that young man's opinions because he demonstrates the extreme. Just as they showed the gentleman standing by the statue with his sign. The majority of people who have a vested interest in the situation are not as extreme as these two examples, we learn what we can and discuss the issues at varying degrees of rationalism.

I too am glad they found this kid that would spew his nonsense. Gives me a barometer to judge my stance.

[–] trm5137 9 years ago

Exactly and I am in the mood for a rant. The documentary would be boring if only the rational fans were interviewed. This "culture" problem that everyone talks about makes zero sense. This was a disgusting man who was excellent at deceiving and gaining trust (as many sexual predators are) and a few "higher ups" who allegedly (yes I will say allegedly until they have their day in court) participated in a cover up. But yet basically everyone that has ever had anything to do with Penn State is accused of caring more about football than innocent children victims. Why? because this delusional kid in his dorm room splattered with memorabilia apparently does? Or a handful of other outlier fans? The number of people that make this about some sort of football problem is amazing. I think it is those that makes this about football are the ones with the culture problem. This was a criminal offense by an ex-football coach (who was in no way acting in football related activities when the crimes took place) and the University President, Athletic Director, Senior Vice President. But who gets the most blame? The former head coach who most likely morally could have done more but in no way has been charged with any crime as he did what was required by PA law at the time. He is attacked the most simply because he was someone other fan bases and the media could bring down because of his reputation as a great coach and an even better man and his celebrity status. A lot of the evidence that people and media outlets such as ESPN used when attacking Paterno is the Freeh report (which is what was the basis for the football sanctions, a whole other issue) which has been largely discredited as it was shown to be heavily flawed.

It's the people that accuse Penn State of having a culture problem that desperately want to make this about football. I guarantee you if you got the absolute truth from a lot of fans from other fan bases they couldn't care less about the victims but are secretly excited that they finally have something against Penn state which was a program known for being run the right way this is evidenced by the untold amount of jokes, inappropriate signs,etc.. that have been made about child molestation and PSU after this story broke. And if this horrific crime has taught me anything about life it is that the best way to show how passionate you are against child molestation is to make as many lame and inappropriate jokes about pedophilia. But no it is clear that Penn state has the culture problem.

Grain alcohol, baby! Whenever there's a potential riot, I am getting blasted on grain alcohol.

[–] oldpantsnewjersey 9 years ago

I wouldn't say the Freeh report has been largely discredited. I would say there's been a large amount of focus from Paterno family cronies on an unimportant numerical discrepency that has deluded them into thinking "well, if that's wrong, then the whole thing's wrong." Of course, their attorney isn't going to say "wow, this report that counters my argument is really well-researched and fair" if he wants to keep his job.

I also wouldn't say Paterno has gotten the most blame. I would say he got an appropriate amount of blame and then a ridiculous amount of support from people treating him a martyr. He wasn't even arrested.

I do hope that the dorm room kid doesn't represent the majority opinion of those at Penn State.

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[–] Harold_Carter 8 years ago

They showed us that young man's opinions because he demonstrates the extreme. Just as they showed the gentleman standing by the statue with his sign.

I didn't think the guy with the sign seemed extreme, the yokels wanting to get their picture taken next to the Paterno statue seemed extreme to me. The kid in the dorm room, I cut him some slack because he's young, he misses the black and white of game night, hopefully, when he's older, he'll watch this and shake his head at how much he had yet to learn in life.

[–] JimmyPSX 9 years ago

change the colors of all his posters and shirts to red and he could easily be confused for a Hitler youth in 1938...brainwashed cult member

[–] SirHenry 8 years ago

Yes that kid was an absolute moron. Just one of thousands in this documentary.

Going to bed every night tugging in his bed with his framed pic of Paterno looking down on him. "I know you won't report me Joe"

[–] stephenmonachello 8 years ago

There a lot of people in this documentary that are what is wrong with this world. They showed extreme of both sides, the defenders and the opposition. It makes the documentary more dramatic and interesting. I live in Pennsylvania and I am not a fan of Penn State. I am a Buckeye fan. First off, the wins should never have been vacated to begin with. This scandal did not have anything to do with what happened on the football field or the team itself. If Penn State paid players to come there, different story. As for the people in this film, the fan that loves Penn State and had several pictures of Paterno in his dorm, showed the unhealthiness of culture and hero worship. Other disturbed the same traits. None of them could accept that their hero(es) weren't perfect. Should have Paterno done more, yes he should have. He knew Sandusky was running a charity for children and he could have squashed that. He could have stopped all of this. He was the most powerful man in that town. He could run for mayor and everyone would have voted for him including his opponent. That is why he is more vilified than McQuery, Shultz, Curry, etc. All of those men, and use the term lightly are just as guilty or more. No one did anything. The guy at the statue blamed Paterno more than the people I just named but he was more right than the opposing views we heard. People will drink the Kool-Aid of what the Paterno family claimed we were tricked by Sandusky and Joe did the right thing? If Sandusky pulled th"wool" over their eyes why did Paterno ban him from campus after finding out about the allegations? Joe started out doing the right thing, but failed to protect the kids he claimed he loved and wanted to make into better men all his life. Joe treated Sandusky as if he were an alcoholic or a drug addict which is wrong on both accounts. This was a whole different monster.

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