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posted 9 years ago by roncerabona
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this felt towards the end like they wanted to mop everything up fast. Where did Vincent get the money to pay off the rest home? The issue just vanished never to be mentioned again, even when the wife died (how much time had passed since they talked about moving her out?)
Wouldn't the bookie see him again (unless he stops going to the racetrack, which seems unlikely, and even then) and still come after him?
The rift between the mother and Vincent seemed to vanish abruptly too. One speech by the kid and all is well?

[–] prskalica 9 years ago

That's the movie conveniences for you.

Vincent is in debt? Let's give him a stroke so that that Zucko leaves him alone.
He can't pay the nursing home expenses for his wife? Let's just have her die.

I still enjoyed the movie, don't get me wrong, but yeah, those things bothered me, too.

[–] roncerabona 9 years ago

And the relationship between the mother and father seemed to be a bit "movie convenient" too...

[–] IkuharaKunihiko 9 years ago

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I don't think that so hard to figure out. I presume Vincent had a certain amount of a war veteran pension. It was not enough to cover both his debt and the rest home. However, once his wife died, financing of the rest home was cancleded and I presume he then had just enough money to repay his debts.

After his stroke, it is only natural that people would be more caring towards him, let alone after Oliver gave his speech about him.

[–] roncerabona 9 years ago

Would the rest home simply forgive the several months of owed debt that had been built up? Unlikely. He still owed that, whether his wife died or not, and it was obviously a substantial sum. And the bookie would still be around, and still want his money pronto.

And it wasn't that Maggie and co were nice again to him after the speech that was the issue, just the abrupt way in which it happened - he was after all the cause of the ex-husband gaining joint custody (all those photos and stories of the track etc). As I said, everything seemed to be resolved too quickly to be convincing and some stuff left unexplained.

[–] IkuharaKunihiko 9 years ago

Let me explain again, since you seem to have missed my point. Vincent probably recieves a regular veteran pension. Let us say, $30,000 a year. Then, let us assume that the payment for the rest home is $10,000, his living expenses is $15,000 and his debt is $10,000.

That is $5,000 of excess he cannot pay. He could not pay for all only because he could not afford paying on three fronts. However, once his wife died, the cost for the rest home was cancelled, and he now has $10,000 extra a year he does not have to pay anymore, which he can now use to repay his debt.

[–] roncerabona 9 years ago

I got what you meant. The amounts are all supposition, of course. And he was quite behind in payments to the home. He still owes for the back payments, presumably, even if his wife is dead, and would likely have to pay the gambling debt. He just won't build up more debt at the rest home. And he was dead broke, remember (overdrawn account) - he would have to accrue more money (assuming he didn't gamble and drink it all away again).

[–] thomas998 9 years ago

Depends on how she was initially placed in the nursing home. IF she was checked in by the husband then he is going to be on the hook for the cost even after she dies... IF on the other hand she signed the papers to enter the nursing home then he wouldn't have any obligation to pay her bills when she died the debt would have died with her with their only recourse being her estate which clearly was non-existent.

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[–] kindheart000-2 9 years ago

In NY state Medicaid will pay for chunk of the NH so he prob paid what he could with savings he or she had, and when it ran out he was in debt. Maybe he went downhill after her dementia took her from his life and that's when he went the way he did.

[–] bellboa-43102 8 years ago

He may still owe money for the home.

I owe lots of companies and government institutions money for years, my life still continues.

All they do is send letters and leave voice-mails.

Some may have grounds to take me to small claims court, but it would be a waste of time and money as I have no money or property to take.

[–] JW-7 8 years ago

Completely accurate depiction of life in the U.S. economy.

The bookie, however, doesn't need to take money or property, nor does he go to small claims or any other court. He takes it out of your a$$, as he started to do when Vince had his stroke. That is something to worry about.