After watching the previews for the next episode it's pretty clear that someone is going to be verbally humiliated and kicked off the competition for punching a horse. I wonder who the hell it's going to be, maybe one of the Marine a-holes? They certainly seem like the type.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
mafila... like all the promos for all these reality-type shows.. I'm going to say that what you think happens from seeing the promos didn't happen.. just another ploy to get you to watch the show...
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
Yeah I've been let down with those types of ploys before, but I'm just going by what the host has stated in the new previews. He was clearly bitching someone out for punching a horse and also said something along the lines of, "You're not a professional and you're getting kicked from the competition, I feel humiliated for you."
Hopefully they didn't just edit things out of proportion as a ploy to get people to watch. That's one of the reasons I refused to continue watching certain other shows that had great potential which was sadly trumped by fake drama and pathetic attempts at deceiving the audience, IRT Deadliest Roads for example. Hopefully that show is going to be cancelled, and hopefully the next episode of this show will at least partially live up to the previews.
If this show goes down the path of IRT Deadliest Roads where they just make sh!t up the whole time just to get people to watch, it'll be a real disappointment to see a show with so much potential get flushed down the toilet by greedy, ratings-hungry producers.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
By the looks of it I think it might be a black team guy.
shareYeah it was someone on/off the black team.
bushtony and his mother suffer from Congential Stupidtiy and they didn't see it coming.
Well, I am surprised that it did turn out as indicated in the promos... now did they show the a-hole being cited for Cruelty to Animals... and if found guilty will they show him being punished by letting the horse kick him in the head ?
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
"Well, I am surprised that it did turn out as indicated in the promos"
I'm pretty sure the episode doesn't air until Sunday, so we don't know yet if it will turn out as depicted in the previews.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Thanks mafila... I'm still sticking with nothing happens then....
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
Let's hope you're wrong, or else this show will be joining the other 90% of History reality shows on my "do not watch" list. We'll see what happens soon enough, the episode will air in a few hours.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Haha the previews were right. Some guy off the black team got bitched out and kicked out of the competition for punching a horse. The way he got insulted and talked down to by the hosts before they kicked him off was just hilarious.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I must say I'm surprised... now I hope they showed the a-wipe getting cited for Animal Cruelty, and will show him being punished by letting the horse kick him in his (bleeping) head.....
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
When I saw the previews I was ready to hang this guy. But when I saw what happened, I am willing to give the guy a pass. He had no intention of being cruel or mean; a half-ton beast stepped on his foot and he reacted to get it off. There was no thought involved.
Maybe removing him for violating the zero-tolerance policy was correct, but there was no reason to chew him out or be angry with him.
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He should have admitted his mistake, apologized right away, and explain that it was a thoughtless reflex reaction and that he didn't mean to do it.
Instead he had a stupid grin on his face like a twelve year old who just got in trouble, then he went on to say that he's not sorry for what he did and that he did the right thing and would do it again.
That was the straw that broke the camels back in my opinion, it's one thing to make a mistake, it's another to act like an unapologetic child who can't even admit that what he did was wrong.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Folks... could this just be another "contrived controversy", that this overly dramatic channel has become noted for, to stir up emotions and create intersest in the show... even if that interest is negative ?
AMERICAN PIKERS was established on "contrived controversy"... over 300 postings... all negative... flooded the now defunct HISTORY CHANNEL BOARD following the shows premiere, protesting the ripping off of the 90 year old WWII vet.
When interest in the show began to wane, they came up with the "grave marker" controversy... which gave the "passionate supporters" forum to shout down all that protested...
YAWN STARS... same thing... following premiere the stars were viewed as slimey con men... a view that has been proven to be true.. nonetheless... still provided a negative interset in the show...
... so take the "horse punching" incident too serious.
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
mafila,
I wonder who the hell it's going to be, maybe one of the Marine a-holes? They certainly seem like the type.
What a way to jump to conclusions. You really should watch the previous episodes before making such accusations. I don't judge people by their career choices or their position in society, I judge them by the way they act and the things they do.
I didn't call them a-holes because they were Marines, I called them a-holes because they acted like it earlier in the show. I don't know their names so I called them Marine a-holes because I know they're both Marines, it has nothing to do with them being Marines and everything to do with the way they acted like immature hotheads towards others.
The fact that you thought I singled them out just because they were Marines is pretty silly, I have the utmost respect for the armed forces and I don't consider anyone to be an a-hole just because that person is a Marine. I singled them out because they acted like the biggest a$$holes and ill-tempered fools out of all the other competitors, bullying and even assaulting their own teammates, so obviously I figured one of them assaulted the horse.
However, this latest episode showed that there are more ill-tempered a-holes on the show than just the two Marines, but before this episode they were acting like the most insecure and hotheaded bullies out of all the competitors. They shouldn't be excused for their behavior just because they're Marines, a-holes are a-holes regardless of race, nationality, religion, title, and profession.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Actually I have watched all the episodes...If you bothered to read my previous post, you would notice one of the first things I said was that I just watched the episode. (Before I made any accusations BTW) Maybe you should find out if someone has watched all the episodes before you make "accusations" at what they have or have not seen...huh?
Since you stated that I should take some time before making accusations, why didn't you take a couple of seconds and go to the History.com website and find there names instead of just grouping them together?
Also...How can the way you stated your original a-hole Marines statement be taken in any other fashion than how I took it. Read it again to yourself and show me how it was different?
Insecure and violent towards and animal are related how?
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I stand by my original post, the Marine a-holes seemed like the type of guys who would punch a horse, if you're so offended by it then maybe you're the one who should re-read it. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are Marines, but you can take it whatever way you want.
I didn't look up their names because I don't need to know everyone's name, I know them as the Marine a-holes because they are Marines and they act like a-holes. You can be offended by it all you want and act like I'm discriminating against Marines, but that's just foolish and untrue and makes it seem like you're intentionally taking my post out of context just so you can have something to bitch about.
If you seriously think that I singled them out because they're Marines and not because of how they acted, or that I wouldn't call them a-holes if they weren't Marines, then you're just an idiot who's desperately looking for something to bitch about.
"OMG they're Marines, how dare you call them a-holes?" Boo-f'cking-hoo, they're a-holes who act like hotheaded bullies, they also just happen to be Marines, which makes no difference to me when observing their violent and immature behavior.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Stand by it all you want, but the fact is that you grouped them together as a-hole Marines. You used a negative generalization. All the while not bothering to learn their names. Which is funny because you stated that I should have watched the episodes prior. So everyone else should take time to do their due dilligence as far as information goes like watching it, but you don't when it comes to something as simple as a name? It's not like they flash it every time they talk on the screen and there have been 5 episodes for you to learn it.
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If you actually watched all the episodes then you would understand why the two Marines seemed like the most likely people to lose their temper and punch a person or a horse, did you completely miss the parts where they interacted with their teammates?
I honestly don't care enough about the competitors to remember all of their names, I only know the names of maybe four or five of the competitors and I definitely don't care enough to actually look up all of their names on History's website, who even does that?
I also don't care enough to keep arguing with you about something so ridiculous and trivial, since you're completely stuck on the fact that I used the word 'Marine' and 'a-holes' in the same sentence, which is obviously something that is extremely offensive to you.
You obviously won't get the point of why I thought the two Marines were a-holes, and I won't apologize for my post just because you thought it was discriminatory that I would call them Marine a-holes since they act like ill-tempered bullies and I don't care to know their names, so I'll let it end here and to each his own.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I didn't think that either one of them seem like the type to punch a horse. Intense yes...irrational no. When I watched all of them interact with the horses, they actually had some of the best interaction out of all of them. (Of course I must have actually watched to notice it.
BTW if you don't think that you made a bad generalization in the way that was stated (intentional or not) that's your perogative. But if you can see how it can be read that way, then you don't have any right to be pissed when someone else does!
To answer a previous question about the weight of the horse on Landon's foot when he punched it. They stated that the horse was 17 hands (Wow how did I get that info, must have watched) that puts the weight over 1000 pounds usually. Add the weight of the saddle and the fact the horse is has shoes. That is easily foot breaking time if that horse put weight on that hoof when stepping down. So needing to react quickly would definitely be needed. Punching definitely not.
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Usually? A draft (the "type" of horse they ride) like that should weigh 17-2100#, depending on the breed. If he weighed 1000# then he would have a Body Condition Score of ~2 which is grounds for animal abuse or negligence charge. A light riding horse is usually between 900-1250 depending on build and breed- these are not light riding horses they are riding on the show.
Also, they give the combined weight at the beginning of the joust since you are making such a fuss about watching the show.
Guys... did they actually show the clown "punching" the horse.. or was it just some "implied" Drama ???
"I don't argue with idiots, they bring me down to their level and beat me with experience"
Yes they showed the actual hit; albiet it was extremely quick and I had to slow the DVR down to 1/15 speed to see it.
I live locally to where this program was filmed and we heard absolutely nothing about the filming until contestants started turning up at the University of Mississippi Hospital, the Wallace Conerly Critical Care Center is the ER and Intensive Care wing. The Hinds County Sheriff's office sent out a team of deputies and ASPCA detectives to do a "Health and Safety" check and cleared them.
When I heard that a contestant was in trouble for "Abuse and Cruelty" to animals on the Promo, I assumed that this being a jousting Tournament that one of the jousters got PO'ed and took a broken lance and started beating a horse. When I finally got the chance to watch the episode, I was astonished at the allegation of "Abuse and Cruelty" to animals. I have three horses and have ridden all my life and what the guy did was NOT ABUSE or CRUELTY, in my opinion. That was a Disciplary Strike of a single pop that was done by using the back of the hand on the bridge of the horses nose just under the eye. If the guy had of hit the horse three or more times then I would have agreed that it was excessive and that removal from the show was appropriate.
I have a feeling that the contestant will be back. It would seem to me that he would have excellent grouds for a lawsuit.
What will be the result if a contestant accidentally strikes a horse in the head with a lance? Would that be an accident or would they just deduct points?
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I don't think he *got* that it was wrong. Having worked at a private school's stable (worst riding experience of my career) I wouldn't be terribly surprised that he thinks that rough-em-up idea is acceptable, especially if he was started out at the school. I'm sure there are better schools out there but it wouldn't surprise me if that's where he learned it.
That being said, every basic horsemanship lesson I've been in or taught has included that you never, ever strike a horse on the head. If a horse steps on your foot (and a heavy draft has done that to me) you growl all you want and throw your weight against the horse to get them off- and it works even if you are small enough to still show in the pony classes.
I will say this show is becoming an excellent learning experience for my SO.
I've never had a horse step on my foot, I know horses are obviously really heavy but considering they have four hooves, how bad does it really hurt when one hoof steps on your foot? I honestly don't know, does it hurt bad enough to make someone freak out and punch a horse?
The guy had no shame whatsoever. He was grinning and claiming that he's not sorry and would do it again even when he was told that he was kicked out of the competition. The fact that he was too blind and ignorant to see his mistake was reason enough alone to kick him off the competition.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
It can hurt a lot- I know people who have had multiple toes broken when stepped on by a lighter horse. It's not just the weight (how much is put on your foot varies on if the horse just steps on it like what happened on the show of, or if weight is placed by stride or the horse just shifting weight) but also the shoe. The weight is more concentrated on a thinner rim of metal making it that much more painful.
If the person doesn't know how to behave, or thinks that lashing out is acceptable I could definitely see them doing that. Same for a nip, or anything seen as unacceptable behavior. There are some people who think that horses do not deserve anything but the bare minimum in effort and violence is the easy way out.
Dear mafila:
Off camera I would have beaten the tar out of that guy.