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his last message about our culture run by money


I really felt I knew exactly what he meant by missing that he didn't have to worry about money in the camp.

We may not be beaten everyday and most of us may have enough to eat, but we are slaves to the economy. It's hard to feel like you're free when everything has to be about money and how to get it.

I always feel dirty when I get my paycheck. Like a prostitute or a servant. Like I'm being controlled and owned by someone who allows my body to suffer so that they can get something more than what I get.

This world is disgusting. Most of us would not have to suffer at all, if so few weren't so greedy. There are enough resources and enough technology to give us all a good life, while taking care of the planet we have.

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Cool story bro.

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You are absolutely right. I too found that last part of the documentary to be most profound. He says he missed the "purity of his heart" most out of everything he had to experience there. This documentary is a must see. Not only does it give insight to the lives of the people in labour camps. It also gives insight to how the world is, how the world works and how human beings adapt, or not adapt, to situations in this life; the human genome; the human psyche; societal clockwork.

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"I miss the purity of my heart." Those were his last words. But, he submitted his whole family, including himself, to torture out of jealousy. He watched his mother and brother being executed, without emotion. This is not purity of heart; it's lack of heart.

He now feels emotion and do you know what? Emotion hurts sometimes.

I'm sorry, I can't go along with the 'money obsessed'/ 'disgusting west' philosophy. Sure, not enough is being done to alleviate world hunger. But, sitting on your fat @rse in a hippy commune, singing about 'make love not war', isn't going to help much either.

Make as much money as you can - doing what you enjoy, love as much as you can, help as much as you can, speak out for the disenfranchised, attack hypocrisy but, enjoy your life. It's a fabulous thing.

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He now feels emotion and do you know what? Emotion hurts sometimes.

I agree, but also feel it's perhaps a little more complex than that. I think we all, in some ways, yearn for our youth-- for a simpler time, when things were 'innocent', before we were really hit with the harshness of the world. I can't imagine how twisted that innate sentiment must be when your youth was what his was. Also, though camp life was (I'm sure) excruciatingly difficult; it was also excruciatingly simple. Stepping out into the world from that must be like traveling a thousand years into the future. There was also no context for anything he experienced in there. He probably had no real notion of how horrific his life and experiences were-- until he escaped and everybody told him just how horrific they were. And then-- as you say-- he had to confront the emotions of what all that entailed.

But, he submitted his whole family, including himself, to torture out of jealousy. He watched his mother and brother being executed, without emotion. This is not purity of heart; it's lack of heart.

Yeah, that was odd. I found myself wanting to know more about the family set up. How much time they spent together, just how heavily surveiled they were, etc. He clearly had an 'unusual' emotional process. But he's a guy whose been indoctrinated since birth, so it's natural I suppose.

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But, he submitted his whole family, including himself, to torture out of jealousy. He watched his mother and brother being executed, without emotion. This is not purity of heart; it's lack of heart.

Yeah, that was odd. I found myself wanting to know more about the family set up. How much time they spent together, just how heavily surveiled they were, etc. He clearly had an 'unusual' emotional process. But he's a guy whose been indoctrinated since birth, so it's natural I suppose.
That's because you're thinking about it from your perspective rather than his. We would naturally think its crazy to report on your own family knowing they would be punished but remember that he was only a kid back then - in his own words "so naive" - and perhaps he did not fully comprehend his actions.

Now he realizes the value of family, he's clearly traumatized by what he did, but back then I doubt the bond between them reflected that. As he said, he first experienced that humans could help each other in the jail cell when the old man nursed his wounds. And being born in the camp, death surrounded him. Imagine your entire life where people around you get murdered and tortured every day. You'd become conditioned to it and I'm sure many of the prisoners learnt not to make bonds or show emotion for that reason.

Its tragic because it is these very bonds that make us human and shows how disgusting these camps are that even the bond between a child and his mother can be reduced to nothing.

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So…go out & catch your own food then. Eat squirrels and tree bark. Weave your own clothing & build your own shelter out of cow dung. No one's stopping you.

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