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His daughter was NOT a good person.

posted 8 years ago by creatorof2002
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She put on a SHOW of being a good person with that stupid non profit she was running but if she REALLY cared about the people she was trying to help she would have accepted her father's generosity. He kept offering to solve her financial problems and she refused. If she did not want to be put in the demeaning position of going to a parent for financial help if it was just her personal life I get that BUT she had a lot of people relying on her. Everyone who worked with her or who were helped by her non profit organization could have greatly benefited from a donation so she was screwing all of THEM by being so selfish.

And why the hell did she hate her father so much? Was it just BECAUSE he was rich? He symbolized the evils of capitalism that she despised? He did not seem like such a bad guy. I think the writer of the story actually might have made a mistake by not making him a worse person. I think he should have been more of a jerk at first, maybe even knowing he was taking someone else's body but being fine with it, that way him becoming a much better person would have been a bigger moral arc for the movie.

I just did not think she was a very nice person.

[–] TxMike 8 years ago

" And why the hell did she hate her father so much? Was it just BECAUSE he was rich? "

It doesn't seem that you watched the movie very attentively. He was not a good father, he was not there for her as she was growing up. She was slow and reluctant to forgive him and believe he had really changed.
He admitted all that and was a big part of why he in the end allowed the younger man to reclaim his own body and be a good father to his daughter.

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[–] creatorof2002 8 years ago

No I was paying attention and got that part but he I am sure made sure she was well taken care of at least financially. I know that is not the same thing. Maybe he was so busy building his business empire that he did not have time for her.

But he WAS trying to make amends and she would only give him the cold shoulder. I wonder what was in that envelope. I would imagine a letter telling her how much he loves her and how proud of her he is and how sorry he is that he was not there for her when she needed him and I would hope a check donating a huge amount of money to her non profit. I know she refused to accept his checks when he was alive because she felt he was trying to use money to make up for all of the other ways he had let her down but now that he was dead she would I highly doubt reject the money.

[–] raf-33 8 years ago

Clearly you weren't paying attention.

If you had been paying attention you'd see that there was no financial problems, she simply ran an NPO, that doesn't equate to being broke. He was giving her a gift of the cash either for her or for the business and she saw it as money instead of love.

Lots of people think cash can make up for anything, so what if he walked out on her and her mother when she was 6 and has only spoken to her a handful of times in 30 years is that what you are saying? That she should have immediately forgave him for all of that because he wrote a cheque? I'm guessing you must be one of those who thinks money does solve anything.

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[–] sunchick116-872-583383 8 years ago

I gotta agree here. I found her bratty, but that's probably because I grew up with a dead beat dad. If you're not gonna be in my life, AT LEAST give me money.

[–] esskayess 8 years ago

Well, she WAS somewhat better than the soul who previously inhabited her body: Lady Mary Crawley.

My people skills are fine. It's my tolerance of morons that needs work.

[–] jharmon64 8 years ago

She put on a SHOW of being a good person with that stupid non profit she was running but if she REALLY cared about the people she was trying to help she would have accepted her father's generosity

You have NO understanding about family and relationships.

As to why she hated him, that's a part of the movie left out, but there's enough to make the story work and I liked it.

"What's in those things Bert?"........"A few household items in the proper proportions."

[–] idoubt_zr4_ithink 7 years ago

I agree. She was, in her father words, just part of a group of "kids throwing a tantrum". With other people's money...so the whole "evil capitalism" is the hypocrisy part of the tantrum.

[–] davedave11 7 years ago

Donald Trump is a money grubbing blow hard and tax cheat - BUT - I bet there are a lot of people and families who have done well working for his businesses and I would further wager that even though DT does not pay taxes or give any significant amount to real charity, that some of the people who earn their living from his businesses do give to charity and pay taxes

it is hard to find anything that is truly black and white

there are plenty of people with no money who do not pay as much attention as they could to their kids