great film
Just well done...
But I'm so confused....Mr. Will sat in the chair as if he was taking over....
But who impregnated Rachel? Is it even important? I guess overall it's not...
So many questions...
I have the same exact questions re: Mr. Will and who the father was. Anyone care to tell their opinion?
shareHmmm...wait a minute. Mr. Will sat in the chair like he was taking over? I didn't catch on to that. If that's so, then that means that the father was the one who impregnated Rachel, and that's why Mr. Will has been accepted back to the community and the other guy is nowhere to be found. It also explains why the father is so quick to dismiss Rachel's "immaculate conception" and marry her off to someone else. How subversive.
I guess that's the only way to read the ending of the movie, other than she really was impregnated by the blue tape of her biological father singing (which would technically be incest...eww).
yep, that's how understood the film too.. the mormon father was exposed of impregnating Rachel and thus kicked out, making Mr. Will the new head of the family.
plus, there was the scene when Clyde asked Mr. Will if her father (the mormon one) has had sex with her, and Mr. Will got awkward... maybe he knew something.
but yes, really loved this film too!
That and the way Mr. Will slams the door into the "father" when he was trying to get her to come back to the wedding. If he didn't know anything about it before, then he definitely caught on to it at some point.
I'll still be here tomorrow to high-five you yesterday, my friend. Peace.
Yes it all makes sense now. Billy Zane,(Rachel's community father) took advantage of her naivete and was sleeping with her and I think that Rachel was so naive that she believed she was impregnated immaculately. Those kids were so sheltered that they really had no clue about the birds and the bees. Rachel did a great job of pulling this role off. The ending where she was in the church about to be married off and she's asking God to have her make believe husband Claude or Clyde come and steal her away or save her from this marriage. I think you guys all hit the nail on the head when you said Mr Will had taken over the role as head of the family. Rachel said there was a confession on the tape and she said she needs to start at the beginning. There may have been more on the tape than we were privy to hear. Rachel may have exposed her Dad and we were just led to use our imagination as to what she said, but she probably did spill the beans. I think Will knew all along and is the reason he slammed his father with the car door.
sharethat's why Mr. Will has been accepted back to the community and the other guy is nowhere to be found
If by "the other guy" you mean the father-ish figure played by Billy Zane, didn't we see him in bed with a head wound being tended to by the mother when Mr. Will returned home?
It did appear that Mr. Will was taking on the mantle of leadership by sitting at that desk, but I did not get the sense that the previous "prophet" (did they call him that, or am I transposing too much of Big Love onto this?) had been exiled, only seriously injured and/or dying.
Of course the likelihood that getting hit by a car door would cause such a serious injury is pretty slim...
...but so is chance that the first red Mustang you see in Las Vegas also belongs to your biological father.
(Which also begs the question, how did she even know that car was a Mustang and connect it immediately to her mom's story? Did they prohibit music but encourage reading of Auto Trader?)
I'm not going to keep going down that path, because stuff like that aside it was a neat little movie, and I'll keep an eye out for the lead actress and the director. share
I took Mr Will's demeanor at that moment as a brief moment of secret defiance and a commitment to himself to be strong. Now that you mention the head wound I can see it the other way.
And a head wound like that certainly can kill you. (Really, more accurately a brain injury.) You don't have to be cut to die of a blow to the head. Think of shaken baby syndrome or actress Natasha Richardson (Liam Neesom's wife) died after a seemingly minor fall while skiing. The damage occurs when the brain is thrown inside the skull even when there is no crack in the skull and no visible head wound.
The perfect human being is uninteresting. -Joseph Campbell
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I took Mr Will's demeanor at that moment as a brief moment of secret defiance and a commitment to himself to be strong.
Mr. Will sat at that desk because he was vindicated by the tape and his father (Rachel's step-father) was implicated. He was not going to die of the head injury, he was about to face the wrath of his wife (and likely community).
He sat at the desk because he was the one who was staying. It's also why he told Rachel's dad to stop the car. The scene where the camera hovered on the empty chair before Mr. Will sat down cemented it for me...it was the step-father. That's how I see it. share
(Which also begs the question, how did she even know that car was a Mustang and connect it immediately to her mom's story? Did they prohibit music but encourage reading of Auto Trader?)
Thank you!! Out of all the things I had to overlook to enjoy this movie, that one bugged me the most. Her mother told her it was a horse, and yet she recognizes the very first one she sees? share