10 million dollars


so i keep hearing the main reason this hasn't been picked up yet is that it cost 10 million dollars for 1 episode. What exactly cost so much? cause if it's stuff like the sets then they can be re-used or if it was the CGI they can cut back on it, and i don't think all that money went for the cast. So where did the money go?

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It was sets (the house wasnt just a small room single camera set like Rules of Engagment) and prosthesis cost future eps would cost less.

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Uh, there was a whole lot of CGI in the show.

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I thought the CGI was excellent. Like Portia turning to smoke and bats assembling Grandpa for the first time. Those two effects alone had to cost a mint.

I think a lot of the cost was upfront. They could have gone cheaper later one.

There may have been a problem having a movie director as an executive director. Bryan Fuller was clearly the creative impetus behind the show, but Bryan Fuller is not as familiar with doing things for TV. Perhaps he worked as a TV director or writer at one point, but having worked in film for ages orients you in that direction. Most film directors who try to work on TV tend to be over budget much of the time. However, I'm sure if it had gone to series that Singer's involvement would have been nonexistent. His role was to establish the show's shooting Bible. Like Barry Sonnenfeld in PUSHING DAISIES. He directed the pilot and the did nothing else on the show, yet retained an executive producer credit even though Bryan Fuller did all the subsequent work. But all directors on the show followede Sonnenfeld's Bible. (David Nutter has made a career out of directing TV pilots and establishing the Bible - check his listing on IMDB to see how many series he directed the initial episode for, though he has also done a significant amount of directing on things like X-FILRE and BAND OF BROTHERS)

I really hope NBC rethinks this show. Only five years ago I watched a huge number of shows on NBC. Today I watch two (Parenthood and Parks and Recreation - with Don Harmon leaving Community I'm not sure I'll stick with that show). I dumped The Office and 30 Rock because both have declined so steeply. Unbelievably, I watch more ABC series than NBC.

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At least they risked the investment...

Even FOX Broadcasting had a tidy 8-digit deficit back in the late-80s...

No, I'm not a fan of the reboot pilot, but some of the jokes had potential... it COULD have been better, and compared to other reboots "Mockingbird Lane" wasn't a total wash...

But it did have problems...

How it racked up $39 Million is amazing, though... certainly not from the makeup department, and the characters needed to have the classic monster looks in order for half the jokes to make sense... I kept thinking of the classic show in order to laugh...

Oh well.

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Bryan Singer has also had some experience in TV considering he was the executive producer of "House" and "Dirty Sexy Money" for years.

I know first hand that Singer was very hands on as a producer with "House".

I think this is being blown way out of proportion. It is not unusual for a genre series pilot to cost a lot of money as they are creating the world. Once the series gets under way they always become less expensive on a per episode basis.

I loved this pilot but it is dark and NBC probably got cold feet that people would complain about how dark it was. One of the cable networks should pick it up.

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The CGI was really well done, I don't think we're talking about the same show here.

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The art direction was gorgeous but once that was in place that expense was taken care of. Locations and basic sets would have fleshed out the show without great expense. Costumes could have been vintage like Marilyn's dresses and Grandpa's ensembles but Lily's grass skirt had me saying .

I think Jerry O'Connell and Portia de Rossi were miscast but Eddie Izzard and Charity Wakefield were perfect. The spiders spinning Lily's dress was very clever.

I thought the show had potential but apparently Brian Fuller had already made clear his intention to leave to work on "Hannibal" so how much did that influence NBC's decision to not go forward ?

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I think the cast was great. I think the biggest problem was it was too...big. Too FX heavy. I don't know if that factored in on them passing (didn't know about Fuller's commitment to Hannibal till you posted it), but I would have left that out. Incidental and practical FX would have been key (Herman's heart, Grandpa spiking the cookies with his blood, etc). None of this humanoid bat nor dragon stuff. I would have made Eddie look feral (think Beast from X-Men, just not all blue of course) and that would have been it, no "Oh no he'll wolf out and hurt people!"

The strengths was grandpa's schemes and one-liners, Herman vs Grandpa (classic good vs evil, only in regards to family), Grandpa and Marilyn as a sort of duo causing mischief, something being "off" about Marilyn that you can't quit put your finger on...bought it.

I think with the things I mentioned excised it could have lasted a while. The show had strong writing. I don't know how much of that was Fuller but I think it could have been replicated or even improved upon.

Although it probably won't happen, I would love to see them bring this show back, SAME CAST AND ALL. While the others haven't aged much, Mason Cook is now 15 according to Google and think a teenage Eddie works better than a cub-scout preteen Eddie.

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