The 2012 "Dark Shadows" movie does a lot of similar things, in digging up an old property, innovating on it, while remaining true to its roots.
Both use dark humor and shamelessly killing.
If 1313ML had someone with the deftness of Tim Burton, it might have succeeded.
1313ML feels very heavyhanded, while the 2012 "Dark Shadows" movie felt more natural.
That might be the difference...
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Still made the same amount of money and most of Tim Burton's movies.
It was just badly marketed, and dumped straight after the Avengers. Hence it's selling well on dvd. ($30 million in it's first week, so it's made a nice profit by now)
Anyway, OP. you're comparing a Big Budget movie made by highly competent and experienced film makers to a Big Budget tv pilot, made by average skilled workers.
Pardon me but average skilled workers? You are aware that this was done by Bryan Fuller the creator of such cult favorites as Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me, and Wonderfalls( as well as one of the saviors of Heroes) and Bryan Singer director of The Usual Suspects, Apt Pupil, Valkyrie, and the first two X-Men movies.
...Doh!
Never heard of him, never seen or heard of those shows.
X-Men movies were terrible.
Never heard of him, never seen or heard of those shows.
X-Men movies were terrible.
Around theses parts, 'heros' is the name chocolate selection box.
I don't watch tv either, don't really like all those over the top American shows too much, I'm British.. we watch Doctor who, and Hammer house of Horror. :P
I care for the work of many different people, Tim Burton is someone I've been watching for over 20 years and due to him releasing two movies this year and produced another it's only natural most of my IMDB attention will be on those.
I have been a Munsters fan also for about 23 years, so had a lot of interest in this pilot. I was one of the few who supported the idea and kept defending it. Than i saw it, and i disliked it. While many who hated the idea ended up loving the pilot.. lol It just didn't quite work.
Hey, I'm a US fan of UK shows (Misfits, Mongrels, Hit & Miss, Teachers, Coupling, etc.), but Wonderfalls was actually surprisingly well done and worth checking out. The other shows the poster mentioned - not so much.
And I was also a Munsters fan but one who hated the idea and hated the pilot too.
I also feel that Tim Burton has been overrated for quite some time. I cringe every time I even hear he has a new movie. :P
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Around theses parts, 'heros' is the name chocolate selection box.
I don't watch tv either, don't really like all those over the top American shows too much, I'm British.. we watch Doctor who, and Hammer house of Horror. :P
I care for the work of many different people, Tim Burton is someone I've been watching for over 20 years and due to him releasing two movies this year and produced another it's only natural most of my IMDB attention will be on those.
I have been a Munsters fan also for about 23 years, so had a lot of interest in this pilot. I was one of the few who supported the idea and kept defending it. Than i saw it, and i disliked it. While many who hated the idea ended up loving the pilot.. lol It just didn't quite work. "
or in other words: you are the most biased person possible and lack the ability to self-reflect.
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The 2012 "Dark Shadows" movie does a lot of similar things, in digging up an old property, innovating on it, while remaining true to its roots.
Both use dark humor and shamelessly killing.
If 1313ML had someone with the deftness of Tim Burton, it might have succeeded.
1313ML feels very heavyhanded, while the 2012 "Dark Shadows" movie felt more natural.
Dark Shadows and Mockingbird Lane failed ultimately because they tried to put new spins on something that would've worked anyway if they'd stayed more faithful to the source material.
Dark Shadows was basically twisted into some goofy oh-so Tim Burton goth spoof. The original wasnt exactly poker-faced but it just wasnt so boldfacedly Burtonesque in its execution.
The Munsters was light-hearted and humorous, playing them toward their seemingly original intended nature as actual monsters (Grandpa kills?WTF?!) just seems altogether wrong here; especially in the day where the biggest and popular high concept storylines that concern vampires has them lusting after females that are centuries younger than them and they frolic in the daylight.
"Lemme at 'em! I'll splat 'em!"
Wrong on both accounts.
Musnters today and the two 90s tv movie spin offs failed.
So there was no reason to do that again here.
Munsters Today ran in syndication and bombed because reruns of the original were getting better ratings.
The TV movie spinoffs were just that...TV movie spinoffs, the only one that was set to be carried to a series was the one in the early 80s that had Fred Gwenne, Al Lewis and Yvonne Decarlo but no one would commit to series and they felt they were getting too old.
Do some research first.
"Lemme at 'em! I'll splat 'em!"
Munsters Today lasted three seasons and 73 episodes, I'm not sure if that counts as a fail.
shareYou took my comment out of context.
Comparing it to other Tim Burton movies it made about the same amount he tends to make, in fact more so than the likes of Sweeney todd and Corpse Bride. Profit margin was smaller due to budget but the point is, it did what most of Burton's do at the box office.
Plus it made most of it's money on dvd sales as most movies do theses days.
Either way, awseome film.
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Oh God. Tim Burton literally mutilated Dark Shadows with his movie. The original is cheesy and badly acted perhaps but had great tone and atmosphere, the movie made zero effort to keep this.
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Dark Shadows lost 14.1 million, huh? That's news to me. Last I checked, it made $239 million worldwide, lol. That's a modest success story in my book.
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Crane Guy? LOL I don't even know who that is. You are one seriously deluded troll indeed.
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The 2012 Dark Shadows movie did not stay true to its roots; thats why it was panned. 1313ML is a pilot so it doesn't have to be perfect.
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