At last!!! When's it gonna be finished, edited, and released? Come on Shane!!
We're waiting. You said hopefully it'll be out before Christmas And it's November now. I was at Heaton Park in July too!! I wanna see this documentary/film so badly. It's going to be the greatest music doc ever!!
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Saw it last night, it's pretty good!
shareSo did I, it was disappointing, apart from some good early footage there too much of the story missing, the Second Coming is largely ignored. Reni leaving is covered, just, but there's nothing after that. There's far too much time wasted with interviews of fans at the Warrington gig rather than actual performance footage of the Roses.
The climax is supposed to be Heaton Park but there's not much footage of the concert and then there's the abrupt ending....
It's like an extra for a DVD of the Heaton Park gig.
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I think the reason why there's stuff missing is because meadows doesn't want to concentrate on the negative and would rather focus on the positive. There's footage of the second coming, all the footage of them fishing and arsing about on tractors is from that period. It wasn't a particularly positive time for most of them and the docu does touch on that but doesn't go into detail.
The Warrington stuff took up a little too much for me but when you consider meadows missed spike island you get te feeling there's a whole load of regret there which he can get over with by doing the docu. I was at spike island it was a terrible gig but a good "event". I think the footage of heaton park was from the Sunday and while I can see why he includes fools gold it was the weakest opening part from the weekend.
Also just to go back to second coming there's not a whole load of footage available as they would record during the day and squire would be up all night doing lengthy overdubs...
I think the problem with early footage is that we've all seen it a hundred times, the awkward interview (although they excluded the best bits IMO) the rapido footage from the studio in crouch end the late show farce (again actually missing the best bit) but meadows did a great job with it. It didn't become the leaden recap it could have been.
To me the Warrington bits were the best and worst bits of the film. You can see why they had to be included as it's the fever pitch and clamour people have waited nearly 20 years for which is sort of the point. That said it was quite touching and funny seeing how many people clearly take the band so seriously.
I'd also be amazed if there's no full concert film released at some point. They had a rake of cameras there.
shareHeard on the radio the other day he's got enough footage to do a DVD of both Heaton Park and Warrington.
Just to say to the earlier posters, I was at the Warrington gig and we're not gloating we're just happy we were lucky enough to be there and all have our little story of how we heard and got our tickets :)
It felt like this was a DVD extra for a full concert film.
shareNo-one's mentioned the bits of voiceover from Alfred Hitchcock and William Burroughs. I thought those were pretty interesting although I'm not sure the ideas were fully developed. Clearly though Meadows had something in mind beyond a concert film or history of the band, which is why it didn't really work as either of those things.
Personally I thought by far the best part was the band rehearsal; you could really see how they worked together as a unit and those scenes were exceptionally well edited with not too much cross-cutting.
And I have to say I never had an inkling previously of what a good drummer Remi is. For some reason it doesn't come across as much from the records. I can see why Townshend wanted to poach him.
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Went to see it last night and loved it. The whole point of the Hitchcock quote at the start was for Shane Meadows to set out his stall i.e. he only wanted to focus on the positive, the creative side of the band. He didn't want to face the arguments or 'waste' time on anything un-creative. Hence there were no cameras following the band around when Reni jumped ship after the Amsterdam gig. And there was no raking up the dirtier elements of the past. It was an affectionate tribute to the fans, not an in-depth documentary. I think accepting that made the film much more enjoyable.
I've always thought the strongest element of the band was Reni & Mani. They were untouchable as a rhythm section. I'm a drummer so I've always known Reni's drum playing was incredible, but I fully agree: you really do get to see & hear Reni's skill in the rehearsal session (especially as Squire's guitar is much lower in the mix). Loved the Heaton Park footage too. It was flawless, fresh and full of energy - complete proof that The Stone Roses have lost none of their ability to make great music and connect with an audience.
Finsbury Park was very flat last weekend.
What always got me is that Fools Gold was held up as an example of Reni's drumming, but it was sampled from a 12"...
That said, you're right about the rehearsal footage, Mani and Reni are clearly the backbone of the band and Squire and Brown sounding a little weedy or flat at times (Spike Island a good example of this) but that's also where the writing and flourishes come from.